Cowboys just can’t catch any good luck

[Aerolithe_Lion]

14 penalties most of which were pre snap. It is hard to complain about getting flagged for false start or offside or holding when you tackle someone on a running play. The team was just playing stupid.

Next, the problem with the Cowboys is not drafting all pros. The problem they have is that they have a very boom or bust player process. Cowboys players are either Micah Parsons or Jaylon Smith. They do not have JAGs. They are either a lock down Guard who is one of the best in the league or they are committing penalties in every single costly situation over and over again.

As for Russel Wilson lets ignore his 19m salary for next year and 5 million roster bonus (the other 15m on his cap his is not relevant if he is traded) so 24m total and just instead focus on what would happen to the cap if you traded Dak. If you trade Dak you incur 58m in dead money or about 23.5m extra in cap hit which puts the Cowboys now 40m over the cap and you need about 5m to sign draft picks. To get to 45m in cap savings you are going to have to cut: Amari, DLaw, Martin, Tyron, Collins, Brown, Zuerlien, and Lewis. That gets the deal done (by the way you now have 34 players under contract) and is about the only way to do so. However, you need to then immediately extend Wilson, probably for about 43m per for 3 extra years, so that you can convert a lot of his salary next year to signing bonus which means you need another 5-6m which requires cutting several smaller contracts getting your roster down to about 29 players so basically most of your team will be practice squad players and you will be carrying about 130m+ in dead money next year. That is what it would take to get Russel Wilson. You would basically have to gut most of the roster at which point they are not competitive anyway.

if you trade Dak after June first, his 34m$ cap hit has only 14m$ in dead money, giving you 20m$ in cap savings. Rework Wilson’s deal to have a low year 1 cap hit and that’s very doable

 

[Section446]

You make your own luck, losers rely on it.

 

[rags747]

Cowboys just can’t catch any good luck. Call me crazy but I still think the Cowboys could beat Green Bay and Tampa Bay.

You don’t know how bad I wanted the Rams to beat San Francisco. Styles make fights

Tampa nor Green Bay’s defense is any good. Perfect matchups for the Cowboys. Styles make fights

Cowboys luck, they drew the best NFC defense(outside of New Orleans) in RD. 1. Styles make fights


1. Jerry Jones DID NOT cost the Cowboys this game

2. Cowboys should try to get Wilson

3. Cowboys have a top 5 front office. No team has drafted more All Pros than your Cowboys since 2010

4. The bad culture stuff is clichéd nonsense

5. 14 penalties? The fix may have been in!

6. Cowboys lost to a team that should’ve won the SB two years ago

7. If Jerry has a flaw it’s his obsession with finding an offensive genius. K. Moore is not that genius. Moore and Dak need to G-O! Dak will never bring it vs big time opposition . Doesn’t have the mental toughness. Go try to find Miss State vs Alabama 2014. I thought he could overcome his big game jitters! He shown that he can’t

8. Anybody ridiculing Arizona for their bellyflop? Anybody criticizing the runt?

9. Zeke and Cooper need to G-O as well

10. I went all in 2021! I’m going to order me some old Cowboys DVDs off Amazon, and I’m retiring my Cowboys fandom! Winning would only be relief. I

. The joy has been taken out of me by this fan base and all the nonsense from fans and media. They could win 10 straight and it wouldn’t come close to 1992! That was joy

Agreed, I too thought that we could beat both GB and Tampa. It could have been Glorious…

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Agreed. But you can't accuse us of shortchanging the OL. We have more cap dollars and draft capitol invested in that unit than most in the NFL. No OL in the league is going to make Dak Prescott look like in elite QB when faced with an opposition that can play some defense.

As a whole yes, and largely because of Smith and Zack

 

[Sydla]

if you trade Dak after June first, his 34m$ cap hit has only 14m$ in dead money, giving you 20m$ in cap savings. Rework Wilson’s deal to have a low year 1 cap hit and that’s very doable

In trading for Wilson, I suspect the Seahawks would want some compensation to take on Dak's larger contract. So if they move WIlson, they'd probably want to do it pre-draft.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Cowboys just can’t catch any good luck. Call me crazy but I still think the Cowboys could beat Green Bay and Tampa Bay.

You don’t know how bad I wanted the Rams to beat San Francisco. Styles make fights

Tampa nor Green Bay’s defense is any good. Perfect matchups for the Cowboys. Styles make fights

Cowboys luck, they drew the best NFC defense(outside of New Orleans) in RD. 1. Styles make fights


1. Jerry Jones DID NOT cost the Cowboys this game

2. Cowboys should try to get Wilson

3. Cowboys have a top 5 front office. No team has drafted more All Pros than your Cowboys since 2010

4. The bad culture stuff is clichéd nonsense

5. 14 penalties? The fix may have been in!

6. Cowboys lost to a team that should’ve won the SB two years ago

7. If Jerry has a flaw it’s his obsession with finding an offensive genius. K. Moore is not that genius. Moore and Dak need to G-O! Dak will never bring it vs big time opposition . Doesn’t have the mental toughness. Go try to find Miss State vs Alabama 2014. I thought he could overcome his big game jitters! He shown that he can’t

8. Anybody ridiculing Arizona for their bellyflop? Anybody criticizing the runt?

9. Zeke and Cooper need to G-O as well

10. I went all in 2021! I’m going to order me some old Cowboys DVDs off Amazon, and I’m retiring my Cowboys fandom! Winning would only be relief. I

. The joy has been taken out of me by this fan base and all the nonsense from fans and media. They could win 10 straight and it wouldn’t come close to 1992! That was joy

you couldn't be more wrong.

1- Jerry Jones cost this game, not directly, but long before. the team he built. the culture of the organization. the way this team operates. its a common theme that we play this way against stronger competition. we can never reach and get over the hump. there is a reason.

2- ok. then

3- they drafted well the past few years, but there is a caveat if you paid attention. prior to 2020 draft, in 15+ years of drafting defense we had one single impact player, not even all pro namely Lawrence....15+ years. 43 picks. one impact player....on the other hand, offensively we drafted and found players like Romo, Dez, Dak, CD, Wilson, Schultz, Martin, Collins, Fredrick, Zeke, Pollard....seemingly they drafted better defensively the past two years, but there is a reason we didn't draft well defensively....and that was in all rounds and FA.....

4- no, bad culture is not cliche. its a fact. I have been part of different types of organizations and I have seen how the culture differences work in different companies and success/failure as a result of it. When the GM/Owner goes into business with a player, he crosses the lines of authority and confuses how things work in an organziation. Jaylon smith should have never been handed a large contract and was kept way too long....Jaylon was in business with Jerry. Jerry plays favorites, everyone knows that. Zeke should have been benched and his role reduced and never handed a new contract with over two years remaining on his contract. zeke was injured and he kept playing...Jerry himself said, that he told moore to come to him if there are issues implementing his office, that's telling an employee come to me if you don't like what your manager tells you. the lines of authority in Cowboys organization are totally screwed up if the players can just go to Jerry and complain.

5- there is no fix....7 of the penalties were pre-snap. that's on the players. that's sloppiness. that's on the coaches.

6- cowboys lost to a team that is not superbowl favorite. came in third in their own division. and was a wild card team. cowboys lost at home. two years go is totally irrelevant to what happened this past weekend. by that same logic, I guess Niners win isn't impressive since they beat a team that went 6-10 last year. this was a reach on your part.

7- yes, Jerry is looking for that next genuis. gets too hyper focused and doesn't see clearly and doesn't see flaws....these are acts of a desparate man.

8- who cares about AZ. they lost 4 of 5 to finish the year.....they lost to a higher seeded team on the road....

9- I totally agree. both should go.


this is the same result. exact same way that happens every few years, with different actors playing the same characters.....this is all on the GM.

 

[Asklesko]

Crazy.

Cowboys were beaten by a lowly playoff team and you have a winner's swagger?

The delusion is strong with that one

 

[Rayman70]

culture matters. Discipline matters. ENERGY MATTERS. Its been 26 years because of these things. Doesn't help when the refs are assisting the other team THEN ignoring blatant fouls every week. Its all of the above.

 

[CTcowboy203]

All year long from a majority of the fan base : “ this is a failure if this team doesn’t get to at minimum the championship game”

“This team is too talented to be one and done”

team loses in playoffs wildcard : “blame Jerry”

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

In trading for Wilson, I suspect the Seahawks would want some compensation to take on Dak's larger contract. So if they move WIlson, they'd probably want to do it pre-draft.

Yeah, you’d probably have to overpay with compensation to get them to do that. But on the other hand, what team can offer you an immediately QB answer as good as Dak? That could be worth waiting a year to use the rest of the draft picks you’d get

 

[John813]

This team showed it's true colors in the 2nd half of the season.

They beat up on weaker teams but then got stumped vs defenses that could take away the 1st and 2nd read.
Add in the run game was bad most of the year due to injuries, Moore and line play this offense was predictable.

It wasn't luck that cost us the game.

 

[Adreme]

if you trade Dak after June first, his 34m$ cap hit has only 14m$ in dead money, giving you 20m$ in cap savings. Rework Wilson’s deal to have a low year 1 cap hit and that’s very doable

If you do that then you still have to make a lot of the big cuts but can avoid the catastrophic ones as the cap situation would effectively be what it is now (but you would still need to immediately do a 43m+ extension for 3 years to do it thus having the cap situation be largely unchanged). The problem with that situation is that I cannot see a world where Seattle would wait until after this years draft to make a trade like that thus asking them to wait 2 years to see any returns without it being a drastic overpay. The cost would already be 2 number 1s, but as future draft picks are viewed as less valuable, and Wilson is a MUCH better QB than Stafford, than the starting price is 2 1s and 2 2s to even have me consider a delay and hope that no one beats that price by offering 2 1s + something this year.

Edit: the big cuts being not having Cooper as an example meaning that the offense has no real strength anymore as 2 of the top 3 WRs are gone and there isnt really any money to upgrade the OLine.

 

[atlantacowboy]

As a whole yes, and largely because of Smith and Zack

Those guys are not the problem. The problem is Connor Williams and Biadez. Both are JAGS. But, no team lines up 5 pro bowlers on the OL.

 

[fivetwos]

All year long from a majority of the fan base : “ this is a failure if this team doesn’t get to at minimum the championship game”

“This team is too talented to be one and done”

team loses in playoffs wildcard : “blame Jerry”

The coaching is atrocious here no matter who is on the staff.

Often unprepared, stupid mistakes, etc.

Who hires the coaches?

Who is about to take a bad situation and bungle it even further?

I'm gonna have a VERY difficult time caring about the Kellen Moore led Dallas Cowboys.

I've really about had it with the awful decisions at the top....and making mistakes is human and excusable....but Jerry has to be the lead dog and thats not an excusable reason to not have a real coach.

 

[Sydla]

Yeah, you’d probably have to overpay with compensation to get them to do that. But on the other hand, what team can offer you an immediately QB answer as good as Dak? That could be worth waiting a year to use the rest of the draft picks you’d get

True.

 

[Sheepherder]

Crazy.

Cowboys were beaten by a lowly playoff team and you have a winner's swagger?

Crazy.

Cowboys were beaten by a lowly playoff team and you have a winner's swagger?

He might need ease up on the

Cowboys just can’t catch any good luck. Call me crazy but I still think the Cowboys could beat Green Bay and Tampa Bay.

You don’t know how bad I wanted the Rams to beat San Francisco. Styles make fights

Tampa nor Green Bay’s defense is any good. Perfect matchups for the Cowboys. Styles make fights

Cowboys luck, they drew the best NFC defense(outside of New Orleans) in RD. 1. Styles make fights


1. Jerry Jones DID NOT cost the Cowboys this game

2. Cowboys should try to get Wilson

3. Cowboys have a top 5 front office. No team has drafted more All Pros than your Cowboys since 2010

4. The bad culture stuff is clichéd nonsense

5. 14 penalties? The fix may have been in!

6. Cowboys lost to a team that should’ve won the SB two years ago

7. If Jerry has a flaw it’s his obsession with finding an offensive genius. K. Moore is not that genius. Moore and Dak need to G-O! Dak will never bring it vs big time opposition . Doesn’t have the mental toughness. Go try to find Miss State vs Alabama 2014. I thought he could overcome his big game jitters! He shown that he can’t

8. Anybody ridiculing Arizona for their bellyflop? Anybody criticizing the runt?

9. Zeke and Cooper need to G-O as well

10. I went all in 2021! I’m going to order me some old Cowboys DVDs off Amazon, and I’m retiring my Cowboys fandom! Winning would only be relief. I

. The joy has been taken out of me by this fan base and all the nonsense from fans and media. They could win 10 straight and it wouldn’t come close to 1992! That was joy

Maybe you need to ease up on the medication for awhile. And stop talking out your ___! 25 + years of this and you up in here calling it luck. Come on!

 

[Sydla]

All year long from a majority of the fan base : “ this is a failure if this team doesn’t get to at minimum the championship game”

“This team is too talented to be one and done”

team loses in playoffs wildcard : “blame Jerry”

Dig deeper.

Jerry is the GM. Jerry is responsible for the players on the field AND the coaches coaching those players. If a team fails consistently, it's either the players aren't good enough, the coaches aren't good enough or both weren't good enough.

So if you believe the team was too talented to sputter out like this, then guess what? They didn't get great coaching. Jerry hired those coaches. So yeah, "blame Jerry."

 

[Bobhaze]

This is the kind of fan response Jerry dreams of every year.

 

[CxC1993]

"Luck" nothing. Dallas would've lost to anyone in the playoffs because they didn't show up for three quarters. That is what it boils down to.

 

[Mk2_Cowboys]

OP does a masterful job of capturing the delusion of some fans here. Good work.