If I am GM, I fire McCarthy

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I bet it does matter somewhere and as owner gm I will not admit to any mistakes before I have to and will see this through the next season at least.
That maybe the problem,.
 

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I somewhat agree. Then again, what owner fires a coach after a 12 win season? :rolleyes:
One that fell short of the goal with 14 penalties.

Either the goal is regular season wins or playoff wins. My coaches would know that the regular season only exists to get to the playoffs. Winning in the playoffs is what matters and they would be incentivized accordingly.

When Landry had his 20 winning seasons in a row, that wasn't just him but his entire staff and his players. They all knew what was expected of them and making the playoffs was just understood.

I can only imagine what coaches like Landry, Johnson and Parcells would have been doing while watching their team commit 14 penalties in their first playoff game.

Whatever happened to commit a penalty and hit the bench? Bud Grant made the perp take the seat on the bench closest to him so he could send that icy stare their way. They seldom made another in the same game when he allowed them back in.

And where is the accountability from the players. That idiot Gregory is out there laughing after his second off sides? Who allows that to happen?
 

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I started another thread about the reason this season was as it was and that is justification for firing the HC. He has the nerve to say they're going to address the penalties this off season when it was obvious he didn't do it during this season, they saved their worst for the playoff game.

Then I assemble this team and tell them they cost their HC his job and I am going to tell his successor exactly that. His own team can be his worst enemy through laziness and stupidity.

Then I tell them on my weekly radio show (this is assuming I have a weekly radio show but how else are y'all going to know what I am up to and hate on me?) that perps will be outed for mistakes of the mental variety so you'd better hope your mistake doesn't hurt the team.

I won't go into all I would do as GM, especially the free tickets, concessions and merch to my fellow Zoneheads or I will get accused of pandering, but I would stress on these players they are my well-paid employees, they are not family or friends so I have no problem with acting as the employer.

This penalty problem isn't new but it has never been addressed in a head first direction either. A team that beats itself, needs new leadership beginning at the top. I do not know of another way to fix that, it's basics and fundamentals.
I like MM.....
 

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I'm 100% confident these issues/penalties were showing up in practices week after week

I'll throw in 1 caveat. All the poor interior o line play could totally be masked in practice. They rarely practice in full pads, for one. As the 49ers said before the WC game, we don't exactly have Aaron Donald at DT, for two. Holding happens when guys get beat, for the most part. That could actually be something they can't work on because of their workout partners.
 

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For this what if, I would fire:

Mike McCarthy
Rob Davis
Kellen Moore
Joe Philbin
Jeff Blasko
Adam Henry
Lunda Wells
Skip Peete
Doug Nussmeier
Joe Whitt Jr.
Aden Durde
Leon Lett
Scott McCurley
Al Harris
George Edwards
John Fassel
Matt Daniels
Scott Tolzien
Kyle Valaro
Ryan Feder
Eric Simonelli
Justin Rudd
Cannon Matthews
Chase Haslett
Harold Nash Jr.
Kendall Smith
Cedric Smith

I would extend a contract offer to Dan Quinn with one stipulation that he can only select fired defensive staff, special teams staff, and strength & conditioning staff of his choosing for re-hire. Some say blow it up and not really mean it. I say it literally.

The explosion would also take out four additional names but this is a general manager what if thread, not an owner what if thread.
 

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I'll throw in 1 caveat. All the poor interior o line play could totally be masked in practice. They rarely practice in full pads, for one. As the 49ers said before the WC game, we don't exactly have Aaron Donald at DT, for two. Holding happens when guys get beat, for the most part. That could actually be something they can't work on because of their workout partners.
I think some coaches teach their OL to hold if it's a full load coming in on the QB and take a chance on the flag. I get those penalties but when they're away from the action, that's just total unawareness.

Williams was overmatched a lot during the season and loses his leverage against stronger DL and with Prescott's questionable pocket awareness, a holding call is preferable to a turnover. Doesn't help that the player to his right is mediocre.
 

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For this what if, I would fire:

Mike McCarthy
Rob Davis
Kellen Moore
Joe Philbin
Jeff Blasko
Adam Henry
Lunda Wells
Skip Peete
Doug Nussmeier
Joe Whitt Jr.
Aden Durde
Leon Lett
Scott McCurley
Al Harris
George Edwards
John Fassel
Matt Daniels
Scott Tolzien
Kyle Valaro
Ryan Feder
Eric Simonelli
Justin Rudd
Cannon Matthews
Chase Haslett
Harold Nash Jr.
Kendall Smith
Cedric Smith

I would extend a contract offer to Dan Quinn with one stipulation that he can only select fired defensive staff, special teams staff, and strength & conditioning staff of his choosing for re-hire. Some say blow it up and not really mean it. I say it literally.

The explosion would also take out four additional names but this is a general manager what if thread, not an owner what if thread.
Damn, I didn't know all of those people worked for me. Off with their heads!!!
 

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I'll throw in 1 caveat. All the poor interior o line play could totally be masked in practice. They rarely practice in full pads, for one. As the 49ers said before the WC game, we don't exactly have Aaron Donald at DT, for two. Holding happens when guys get beat, for the most part. That could actually be something they can't work on because of their workout partners.

Agree but lots were pre-snap penalties. IF a player is consistently drawing penalties coz he getting beat, you have 3 options, coach him up, get him some help or bench him. I mean it could very well be we trying to make him something he's not .....starting material. Let's look at another way, what you think going to happen if YOU were trying to block let's say, Fletcher Cox? You're going to get beat every time and no amount of coaching will change that (lol)
 

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I think he’s digging a hole where he needs to be gone. Every statement he makes about the last play, penalties etc puts him further from reality. Jerry sees this.

Yeah and I’m a Mike fan. Jerry was pissed about that comment about fixing after the season. It’s embarrassing for Mike.

Having said all that to the OP, that’s all fine and good but who do you replace him with? Jerry is a lunatic and is not very good at picking HC’s
 

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Yeah and I’m a Mike fan. Jerry was pissed about that comment about fixing after the season. It’s embarrassing for Mike.

Having said all that to the OP, that’s all fine and good but who do you replace him with? Jerry is a lunatic and is not very good at picking HC’s

Agree! I didn’t mind the Mike hire and thought he handled GB well. But I feel like he’s almost bucking up now. I’d love a Flores but he wouldn’t come here and Jerry wouldn’t think outside the box. I’m just hoping with Jerry Almost 80 he needs some urgency with this team
 

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Jerry did exactly this when he fired Wade.

Told the team it was their fault.

Worked out well.

How about we get coaches in here that actually have a shot to outsmart and out scheme the other side?

We always seem to be at a coaching disadvantage when we have ego boy who hires coaches on a whim and they also must be someone who doesn't threaten him.

It's him. No one else. Hire crap coaches with no spine and expect greatness. Yeah that'll work.

McCarthy wings were clipped from day one with the Moore thing but he wanted the paycheck.

Truth.
 

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I think the team is limited to the best Yes Man Coach available.
I believe there are better versions than the McCarthy model.
 

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THANK GOD none of you are GMs with these outlandish changes,

that all that needs to be said,
 

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…..my concern is that he joins the long list of scapegoats that have been sacrificed at the altar of the Jones’s and nothing changes as usual…..of course its easier to fire 1 than 53
12 and 5 is knocking at the door. They got right to the door, but couldn't get through it. Just one more win and they are still playing. They could have won several games that they lost by one score, but they didn't do it. Hopefully, they are right back to the door next year and fight their way through it, but the odds will be against them again. Hopefully, it is as exciting as this year regardless.
 

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About this addressing the penalties after the season is over.

My first job as a GM in my first radio station, my boss flies in to take me to dinner. He knows I am struggling a little and he recites to me the management mantra "it's hard to remember the goal was to drain the swamp when you are up to your butt in alligators".

He looked me square in the eyes and said my name and "you are not here to solve problems as much as to anticipate them and prevent them from becoming bigger problems".

That draining the swamp was a reference to my reluctance to remove some employees not on board as he knew I was hoping they'd come around. I will never forget what he said next and it applies directly to this Cowboys situation. "You are waiting for them to come around and they're waiting for you to come around, which is most likely to happen"?

If I am McCarthy and I can get away with it, I do not wait for a re-signing of Gregory, I fire him and I show that tape of him laughing after getting that second offsides and just say "you figure out why he's not a Cowboys any longer".

How in the hell does any player get off laughing after hurting his team? How do they let him off? Where is the team enforcement? Are these players so happy they just don't give a damn?
 
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