After watching Aaron Donald we could really use something similar

[Reid1boys]

Wait.... yo umean we could use the best defensive player in the game? You sure? Ok, Ill let Jerry know to use our 4th rd pick this year and draft another Donald. No problem at all.

 

[Blackrain]

Wait.... yo umean we could use the best defensive player in the game? You sure? Ok, Ill let Jerry know to use our 4th rd pick this year and draft another Donald. No problem at all.

Actually at this point we could use some people here with some reading comprehension.
I used Aaron Donald as an example of a type of player That would help the interior of our defensive line and anyone's in the league for that matter.
I stress the fact over and over that we have to use a high draft pick at some point to get a quality player to fill this role and we have ignored it for over a decade.

Tired of watching us get run on like we're a high school team.

 

[Blackrain]

Except we don’t have a high draft pick
At 24 you ain’t getting that guy most likely
Possible but not probable
Generally in the mid twenties oline, WR, oline are where the talent is
Pass rusher and impact DT’s go early
I think this year the top 2 picks will be edge rushers just because the QB class is weak and they are the best players

Agreed you may have to trade up from 24 to get that type of player.

In my opinion this is a spot on the team that is severely lacking and has been ignored for way too long.

I'm just tired of watching us draft injured players, players with drug problems, players like Taco that don't pan out, wide receivers and tight ends that we don't need,

All while ignoring this important position that continues to bite us in the butt every year.

 

[Blackrain]

We've drafted quick-step, penetrating 3Tech types on Day 2 of the last three drafts. I only have real hope for the last one (Odighizuwa). Gallimore and Trysten Hill have no awareness and just surrender their gap to try to get upfield.



You want to keep Parsons clean to be a beast playmaker all the time? Stop abandoning the A and B gaps with D Linemen chasing ghosts. Less 3Techs and more Vita Vea's or DJ Reader's.

Also, Aaron Donald is a unicorn.

I believe a player like Vita Veas. Or DJ Reader. Would go a long way in stopping us from being gashed in the run game and pretty much make everyone's job on defense easier.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Been screaming for one for years. Guys I desperately wanted in draft: Grady Jarrett, Geno Atkins, Javon Hargrave, Mike Daniels, Jurrell Casey

All these guys were attainable, but before this last draft, Jerry insisted that all his DL's be 6-5. It's been obvious that he doesn't get leverage.

Disagree. If a 6'5" DT stays low, he can win leverage and overpower an Olineman. He can also stay low, anchor down and clog up the middle much better than a smaller DT. Also, if a big DT can stay low, have a quick get off when he fires out and has good strength and agility, he can also be more disruptive inside against both the run and pass than a shorter DT.

We've gone many years with using smaller DTs, the Marinelli way. What a total failure. No way should we be going back to that. Bill Belichick knows a Defense interior much better than Marinelli, and Belichick loves to go with much bigger DTs for a reason. That's what the Cowboys need to emulate.

 

[America's Cowboy]

If this big bull DT falls to the Cowboys by the time they pick at #24, they would be foolish to pass him by.

Here is your big monster interior DT...

 

[Blackrain]

NO, WE'VE HAD TOO MUCH OF THIS, WE NEED 330+

I'm all about it

But I'm not as much concerned about All out maximum weight as I am about ability to stop the run and push the pocket while occupying two blockers

 

[CowboyoWales]

Agreed you may have to trade up from 24 to get that type of player.

In my opinion this is a spot on the team that is severely lacking and has been ignored for way too long.

I'm just tired of watching us draft injured players, players with drug problems, players like Taco that don't pan out, wide receivers and tight ends that we don't need,

All while ignoring this important position that continues to bite us in the butt every year.

Easy to say, difficult to do. We are a roster full of holes (and no CAP), we can hardly afford future 1st and 2nd round picks to get into the upper echelons of the draft to get this talented DT. If we're one player away then go for it, but we arent, we need all the high draft picks we can get with an O-Line that failed and a LB corp that's potentially Micah and and injured Cox.

 

[Blackrain]

Easy to say, difficult to do. We are a roster full of holes (and no CAP), we can hardly afford future 1st and 2nd round picks to get into the upper echelons of the draft to get this talented DT. If we're one player away then go for it, but we arent, we need all the high draft picks we can get with an O-Line that failed and a LB corp that's potentially Micah and and injured Cox.

And impossible if we don't try. We have certainly invested enough top picks in the offensive line and that group at this point is just underachieving.

I see other front offices like the Rams and the Bucs signed big players that get them over the hump . I believe the bucs just signed Veta Veya to a 4-year extension so obviously they realize the importance of this position.
I just don't think we can get further until we address this problem

 

[Blackrain]

If this big bull DT falls to the Cowboys by the time they pick at #24, they would be foolish to pass him by.

Here is your big monster interior DT...

That looks like something we could work with AC 320 lb and he hasn't even put on his man weight yet I like it.

 

[foofighters]

Does anybody other than me get the feeling that we could really use something similar to that in the middle of our defensive line.
Is there a reason why we can't use a high draft pick on a player that can impact the game like that. He isn't even a real big guy 6-1. 284. This guy has a motor that just won't stop

I don't even think Jerry's horrible culture could stop this guy's motor

Thoughts???

I love these threads where the OP singles out one of the current best players and says we could use someone like that...

YOU THINK????!!!!!!!

 

[Blackrain]

I love these threads where the OP singles out one of the current best players and says we could use someone like that...

YOU THINK????!!!!!!!

I love people who come into these threads with no reading comprehension and can't get the point of the post which is we have a weakness in the center of our defense of line and need to use a high draft pick to fix it .

As we have tried to make do with bargain basement fixes that we cannot coach up or develop.

We have used high draft picks on the offensive line ,running back, linebacker ,wide receiver, edge rusher.

Why is it that we can't use a high draft pick on a defensive tackle to push the pocket command to blockers and stop the run.

THIS IS WHAT I THINK!!! I also think it might behoove you to read through the whole thread before you post.

 

[conner01]

Agreed you may have to trade up from 24 to get that type of player.

In my opinion this is a spot on the team that is severely lacking and has been ignored for way too long.

I'm just tired of watching us draft injured players, players with drug problems, players like Taco that don't pan out, wide receivers and tight ends that we don't need,

All while ignoring this important position that continues to bite us in the butt every year.

Moving a few spots is fine
But at DT I don’t see a guy worth gutting a draft for
DE has a couple of real studs but they are likely going one and two
Georgia DT I like but he’s not a real elite prospect
I agree we need a guy inside who can stop the run and collapse the pocket. They are just hard to find
And we really have a lot of needs on both sides of the ball

 

[stinkface]

We would of wasted him as well. That said, we sure need something explosive in the DT area. Its a huge hole on defense.

 

[Reid1boys]

Actually at this point we could use some people here with some reading comprehension.
I used Aaron Donald as an example of a type of player That would help the interior of our defensive line and anyone's in the league for that matter.
I stress the fact over and over that we have to use a high draft pick at some point to get a quality player to fill this role and we have ignored it for over a decade.

Tired of watching us get run on like we're a high school team.

Would you have been happier if we used our one last year on a def tackle vs Micah?

 

[CowboyoWales]

And impossible if we don't try. We have certainly invested enough top picks in the offensive line and that group at this point is just underachieving.

I see other front offices like the Rams and the Bucs signed big players that get them over the hump . I believe the bucs just signed Veta Veya to a 4-year extension so obviously they realize the importance of this position.
I just don't think we can get further until we address this problem

I agree that we probably don't see DT (as well as a cover based Safety) as a sexy headline position to draft, though to be fair there's not been many complaints about the 1st round picks of the last few years.

Id argue that LG was a greater need due to: the penalties, lack of running game and pressure on Dak.....and I was someone who loved the focus on defense in the last draft. Our Defense is designed to keep us in the game....the resources pumped into that Offense means it needs to burden the strain. I would put a proviso, that i wouldnt pick a LG or any player for that matter if there was better value on the board (in a position of need).

As I say if we were one player or had just one weakness then yep no problem trading up for that DT (certainly a position of need), but we need more than one success per draft and therefore can't afford to lose draft capital by trading up ...imho.

 

[Ozone22]

The great ones don't grow on trees.

 

[Reid1boys]

The great ones don't grow on trees.

but we need one......... just draft one, should be easy. Maybe we should write Jerry a letter letting him know how important having a run stopping def tackle is. They may not be aware of this.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Does anybody other than me get the feeling that we could really use something similar to that in the middle of our defensive line.
Is there a reason why we can't use a high draft pick on a player that can impact the game like that. He isn't even a real big guy 6-1. 284. This guy has a motor that just won't stop

I don't even think Jerry's horrible culture could stop this guy's motor

Thoughts???

I will take Jerry's horrible culture to beat that guy down. We have over a quarter century of proof of what that culture does to the players here. No amount of motor is going to overcome that.

 

[JoeKing]

Player envy.