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Okay.. you're wrong..

Jim Plunkett made his first Super Bowl in 1980 - year 10 for him.
Joe Theisman made his first Super Bowl in 1982 - year 9 for him
Phil Simms made his first Super Bowl in 1986 - year 7 for him.
Doug Williams made his first Super Bowl in 1987 - year 10 for him
Steve Young made his first Super Bowl in 1994 - year 9 for him
Chris Chandler made his first Super Bowl in 1999 - year 12 for him
Rich Gannon made his first Super Bowl in 2002 - year 14 for him ironically he lost to Brad Johnson that same year.. who was in his 13th year ... also in his first Super Bowl.
Peyton Manning made his first Super Bowl in 2006 - year 8 for him.
Drew Brees made his first Super Bowl in 2009 - year 9 for him
Hell the last Super Bowl was won by a QB in his 13th year making his first..


Shall I go on or will you go ahead and take back your ridiculous absolute now?

This is not meant as an attack on you though and I apologize if it came off that way. It's attack on people getting these narratives locked in their heads and spouting them as fact without doing 5 minutes of homework.. and then having a few hundred idiots cosigning the fallacies. The fact of the matter experienced QBs are far more likely to get to the Super Bowl than the kids. But the narrative is that you gotta have a QB on a rookie deal or you have no chance. And people keep repeating it despite all the factual information to the contrary. Mahomes and Wilson are the only two QBs in the past decade to win a Super Bowl on a rookie deal. Though I guess technically you could count Flacco since he was on the 5th year option of his. I guess 3 out of 10 are better odds than 7 out of 10 in this debate? If that's what people wanna believe then who am I to rain on their parade. But I would flunk any math class that tells me that 30% is greater than 70%.

Dude, chill. That’s why I said correct me if I’m wrong. It’s guys with their original team that I forgot to throw in. It’s still a stat that says something about his ceiling here. But thanks for correcting me with so much zest and righteousness.

https://sports.yahoo.com/dak-prescott-reunite-private-qb-170408311.html

ESPN’s Todd Archer points out that, in the last 42 years, only three quarterbacks have made it to their first Super Bowl with their original team after a longer run as the every-game starter. Ken Anderson took the Bengals to Super Bowl XVI in his 10th season with the club. Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan were in their ninth year as starters when they led the Colts and Falcons to Super Bowls XLI and LI, respectively.

Prescott will be entering his seventh season as the starter in Dallas.
 
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Dude, chill. That’s why I said correct me if I’m wrong. It’s guys with their original team that I forgot to throw in. It’s still a stat that says something about his ceiling here. But thanks for correcting me with so much zest …

https://sports.yahoo.com/dak-prescott-reunite-private-qb-170408311.html

ESPN’s Todd Archer points out that, in the last 42 years, only three quarterbacks have made it to their first Super Bowl with their original team after a longer run as the every-game starter. Ken Anderson took the Bengals to Super Bowl XVI in his 10th season with the club. Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan were in their ninth year as starters when they led the Colts and Falcons to Super Bowls XLI and LI, respectively.

Prescott will be entering his seventh season as the starter in Dallas.
This should give all the Dallas Prescott fans something to look forward to when they're rooting for their new "favorite teams" in a few years when Dak becomes the back up there.
 

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Wilson is better than Dak…imo

Yes I agree, but I think at this point there's an argument. What are we going by? By how much ? Russ past or present. Russ has some years on him and definitely accomplished more. Questions are starting to trickle out about Russ.
 

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Dude, chill. That’s why I said correct me if I’m wrong. It’s guys with their original team that I forgot to throw in. It’s still a stat that says something about his ceiling here. But thanks for correcting me with so much zest and righteousness.

https://sports.yahoo.com/dak-prescott-reunite-private-qb-170408311.html

ESPN’s Todd Archer points out that, in the last 42 years, only three quarterbacks have made it to their first Super Bowl with their original team after a longer run as the every-game starter. Ken Anderson took the Bengals to Super Bowl XVI in his 10th season with the club. Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan were in their ninth year as starters when they led the Colts and Falcons to Super Bowls XLI and LI, respectively.

Prescott will be entering his seventh season as the starter in Dallas.


That's a lotta qualifiers to try to be "right." The fact of the matter is a LOT of QBs have taken their teams to the Super Bowl well after their 6th year. You can make up all the "stand on your left foot facing east" qualifiers you want so that it makes a point seem correct. The bottom line to me is Dak is my team's QB.. I don't actually care where the "experts" rank him. I want him to be good enough to win my team games.. which he is. He is better than half the QBs who have made it to the Super Bowl in the past decade.. He's better than Foles.. better than Garappolo.. better than Goff.. better than 38 year old Peyton Manning.. better than any version of Eli.. and so on. That being the case I rather turn my attention to those portions of the team that are NOT good enough to win with.. I'll let other people be mad about Dak being the QB. Seems like a waste of energy to me. Even more of a waste than most of what is posted here.. which is saying something.
 

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That's a lotta qualifiers to try to be "right." The fact of the matter is a LOT of QBs have taken their teams to the Super Bowl well after their 6th year. You can make up all the "stand on your left foot facing east" qualifiers you want so that it makes a point seem correct. The bottom line to me is Dak is my team's QB.. I don't actually care where the "experts" rank him. I want him to be good enough to win my team games.. which he is. He is better than half the QBs who have made it to the Super Bowl in the past decade.. He's better than Foles.. better than Garappolo.. better than Goff.. better than 38 year old Peyton Manning.. better than any version of Eli.. and so on. That being the case I rather turn my attention to those portions of the team that are NOT good enough to win with.. I'll let other people be mad about Dak being the QB. Seems like a waste of energy to me. Even more of a waste than most of what is posted here.. which is saying something.


I didn’t make the qualifications. I literally read this article this past weekend and passed it along. It’s been discussed here before when talking about his ceiling, The only real qualifiers are a) original team and b) above 6th season. That’s not hard and in 42 years 3 guys. And when was I trying to be right? My post you tried to preach to me about wasn’t far fetched or hateful. The stat could mean a lot of stuff…team got stale, lost guys around folks etc. Here in these parts it usually means we are wasting talent. You can say he’s better than old Peyton or Eli or whatever you want but Eli made throws in big games that got them SBs. That’s my issue. He can put up all these Techmo stats that makes yalls eyes glitter but he’s no better than anyone else with 1 playoff win in 6 seasons because he fails in them and the rest of the team does too. As I said 50 times before I’m a poster who sat here for years pumping his attributes…run for tough yards, leader, cam mount comebacks. But like my Drew quote above that luster is wearing off and I’m seeing a guy who struggles in tough/big games. The whole team does. That was my point. #9 doesn’t make him great…neither does me saying he’s #11. It’s not hate. It’s 2 spots. But I started losing faith in him taking this ship further and his excuses were horrible. Maybe he wins one elsewhere. Not a surprise with Jones boys.
 

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This should give all the Dallas Prescott fans something to look forward to when they're rooting for their new "favorite teams" in a few years when Dak becomes the back up there.

No we support the Cowboys unlike you. Dak is the QB on this team, good QB, not elite but he is the QB of the Cowboys. So you come here and slam him at every turn, anything of positives you dismiss or spin it. Should Dak leave I can say 100% I would remain a Cowboys fans and endure the likes of Hutchinson, and Henson and Vinny because I am a Cowboys fan. I have been a fans since 1965 how about you? No your a fan as long as they win. Not much of a fan
 
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No we support the Cowboys unlike you. Dak is the QB on this team, good QB, not elite but he is the QB of the Cowboys. So you come here and slam him at every turn, anything of positives you dismiss or spin it. Should Dak leave I can say 100% I would remain a Cowboys fans and endure the likes of Hutchinson, and Henson and Vinny because I am a Cowboys fan. I have been a fans since 1965 how about you? No your a fan as long as they win. Not much of a fan
Yeah, because I don't elevate one player above the entire team I'm not a real fan, right? That's rich.

The bum is holding my team back just like the bum before him. I'm not going to blindly pretend that he's good when he's not just because he has a star on his helmet.

I'm a fan as long as they win? If that's the case then why would I even be here? Why would I even care enough seeing as how they've done NOTHING for a quarter of century?

The lame "fairweather fan" stuff is one of the weakest things you can say to a Cowboys fan at this point. You're living in the past. 1996 was a long time ago, so maybe leave the fairweather fan stuff back there where it belongs.
 

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Yeah, because I don't elevate one player above the entire team I'm not a real fan, right? That's rich.

The bum is holding my team back just like the bum before him. I'm not going to blindly pretend that he's good when he's not just because he has a star on his helmet.

I'm a fan as long as they win? If that's the case then why would I even be here? Why would I even care enough seeing as how they've done NOTHING for a quarter of century?

The lame "fairweather fan" stuff is one of the weakest things you can say to a Cowboys fan at this point. You're living in the past. 1996 was a long time ago, so maybe leave the fairweather fan stuff back there where it belongs.

No not at all, I think it is great to point out things he can improve on and look at things he has done well. With you it is all or nothing, no in between and yet the truth about Dak is the same for 90% of the QB out there, Stafford never won a SB until he won a SB and only took him 13 season to get it and damn near blew it in post season. As for being a fan when the win? Yeah you would just to troll.
 

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No not at all, I think it is great to point out things he can improve on and look at things he has done well. With you it is all or nothing, no in between and yet the truth about Dak is the same for 90% of the QB out there, Stafford never won a SB until he won a SB and only took him 13 season to get it and damn near blew it in post season. As for being a fan when the win? Yeah you would just to troll.
It should be all or nothing for every fan.

It's Dak's responsibility to get better. That's his problem. That's his responsibility.

It's the fans responsibility to expect the best out of the 3rd highest paid NFL player ever and not give him passes and excuses all the time just because he has a star on his helmet.

You've been a fan since the 60s you say? Well, you should know what it feels like to be a fan of actual great players and stop giving these mediocre bums like Dak excuses.
 

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I didn’t make the qualifications. I literally read this article this past weekend and passed it along. It’s been discussed here before when talking about his ceiling, The only real qualifiers are a) original team and b) above 6th season. That’s not hard and in 42 years 3 guys. And when was I trying to be right? My post you tried to preach to me about wasn’t far fetched or hateful. The stat could mean a lot of stuff…team got stale, lost guys around folks etc. Here in these parts it usually means we are wasting talent. You can say he’s better than old Peyton or Eli or whatever you want but Eli made throws in big games that got them SBs. That’s my issue. He can put up all these Techmo stats that makes yalls eyes glitter but he’s no better than anyone else with 1 playoff win in 6 seasons because he fails in them and the rest of the team does too. As I said 50 times before I’m a poster who sat here for years pumping his attributes…run for tough yards, leader, cam mount comebacks. But like my Drew quote above that luster is wearing off and I’m seeing a guy who struggles in tough/big games. The whole team does. That was my point. #9 doesn’t make him great…neither does me saying he’s #11. It’s not hate. It’s 2 spots. But I started losing faith in him taking this ship further and his excuses were horrible. Maybe he wins one elsewhere. Not a surprise with Jones boys.

I realize that the quote you used was not YOU trying to be right and that it was Todd Archer.. Sorry if you took it that way. However he's also wrong.

Phill Simms, drafted in 1979 by the Giants.. went to the Super Bowl in 1986.. Now again I'm no match whiz but that would actually make it year 8 for him not 7 as I previously posted. That bumps the count already up to 4 and I suspect if I dug deeper I could find more.. but what would be the point? When in reality I don't care about that sort of crap. In the early 90's people poo-pooed Emmitt's dominance early on because "no NFL leader rusher has ever won the Super Bowl.." And then Emmitt and Co won three.. then Davis won two and that stupid narrative went where it should always have remained.. in the crapper. Put the NFL's leading rusher on the best team and the NFL's leading rusher can win a championship very easily. Same is QBs past year 6.. put them on the great teams and they can also get it done. Trying to pass this nonsense off about "QBs after year 6 not with their first team?" as some sort of "rule" is what I take exception to. That crap aint got nothin to do with nothin. A guy can either play or he can't and nothing that has gone on in the past will determine that. Only the future. I have stated repeatedly that Dak is NOT a great QB.. He is a good one.. I think he's got work to do to be great.. but I'm not interested in these idiotic proclamations that he can't get any better.. especially given the long list of QBs I just found who got their teams to the Super Bowl for the first time waaaay past their 6th years in the league. The fact that so many of them did it with their second and third team should be seen as proof that maybe their original teams were stupid and maybe should have stood by the guy?
 

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It should be all or nothing for every fan.

It's Dak's responsibility to get better. That's his problem. That's his responsibility.

It's the fans responsibility to expect the best out of the 3rd highest paid NFL player ever and not give him passes and excuses all the time just because he has a star on his helmet.

You've been a fan since the 60s you say? Well, you should know what it feels like to be a fan of actual great players and stop giving these mediocre bums like Dak excuses.

Jerry depends on fans who accept mediocrity. Without them, Jerry wouldn't have the most coveted statistic of all: MVT. Won't win a SB with Dak? LEAVE HIM ALONE!!! HE'S THE 9TH BEST QB IN THE POLLS!!!!!
 

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It should be all or nothing for every fan.

It's Dak's responsibility to get better. That's his problem. That's his responsibility.

It's the fans responsibility to expect the best out of the 3rd highest paid NFL player ever and not give him passes and excuses all the time just because he has a star on his helmet.

You've been a fan since the 60s you say? Well, you should know what it feels like to be a fan of actual great players and stop giving these mediocre bums like Dak excuses.

So when he drops to 5 or 6th highest then it will be alright. You look at the cap and what these guys get paid on a year to year basis, they all hit FA at different times and did not set the market.
As for excuses I don't make any for Dak, yes he has a job to do and it is his responsibility and you bet as a fan of this team I back him because I know if he can achieve that then they have a legit change of going the entire way.
As a fan from the 60's till today, I support my team win, lose or tie. You know we all have choices, you don't have to cheer for the Cowboys, maybe you would be better off cheering for some other team.
 

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Jerry depends on fans who accept mediocrity. Without them, Jerry wouldn't have the most coveted statistic of all: MVT. Won't win a SB with Dak? LEAVE HIM ALONE!!! HE'S THE 9TH BEST QB IN THE POLLS!!!!!

I could careless about Jerry, I pull for this team before Jerry ever bought this team. You don't have to watch them, no one has a gun to your head. As for Dak, yes I expect him to continue to improve as a QB just as I expected growth from Romo
 

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I could go with you on the argument for Wilson when healthy.. Carr and Tannehill made me LOL!!!

Like I stated in my post, it's largely a matter of opinion. Carr made Dak look poor in their meeting this year and Tannehill is certainly nobody to laugh about, either. Maybe Dak will rebound in 2022 but right now, he doesn't look like a top 10 at all. (jmho) I'd like nothing better than to see that rebound happen, in all honesty. I believe Dak is overrated, at this point in time. His inconsistency says as much. Dak has much to prove in 2022.
 
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So when he drops to 5 or 6th highest then it will be alright. You look at the cap and what these guys get paid on a year to year basis, they all hit FA at different times and did not set the market.
As for excuses I don't make any for Dak, yes he has a job to do and it is his responsibility and you bet as a fan of this team I back him because I know if he can achieve that then they have a legit change of going the entire way.
As a fan from the 60's till today, I support my team win, lose or tie. You know we all have choices, you don't have to cheer for the Cowboys, maybe you would be better off cheering for some other team.
Jerry can put any product out there and the ones like you will buy it hook, line, and sinker every time and never question anything.

I could never be a fan that blindly supports everything. That's scary type of stuff.

If a player sucks I'll say it. I'm not going to defend players holding my team back. I can see past the star on the helmet.
 

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Like I stated in my post, it's largely a matter of opinion. Carr made Dak look poor in their meeting this year and Tannehill is certainly nobody to laugh about, either. Maybe Dak will rebound in 2022 but right now, he doesn't look like a top 10 at all. (jmho) I'd like nothing better than to see that rebound happen, in all honesty. I believe Dak is overrated, at this point in time. His inconsistency says as much. Dak has much to prove in 2022.

This is the epitome of seeing what one wants to see..

Here are the QBs stat lines from that game..

24-39 373 yards 1 TD 0 INT 1 fumble 0 lost - 101.8 passer rating
32-47 375 yards 2 TD 0 INT 0 fumbles - 106.2 passer rating

Exactly which one would you consider the "poor" one? I should also point out that the QB up top got over 120 rushing from his ground game while the one on the bottom got 61.

Tell me again.. which one played the better game and which one was "poor?"

Dak had 3-4 poor games in 2021.. Thanksgiving Day wasn't one of them.
 

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I suspect you're looking through rose-colored glasses if you think the last half of Dak's year was successful. It's that simple to see clearly. I'm going by what I've seen, like it or not. It's surely not what I wanted to see -- let's just get that straight. If Dak rebounds in 2022, I'll gladly eat crow. Write a book if you must.
 
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I suspect you're looking through rose-colored glasses if you thin, the last half of Dak's year was successful. It's that simple to see clearly. I'm going by what I've seen, like it or not. It's surely not what I wanted to see -- let's get that straight.

You literally just argued that the QB with more yards, more TDs and who was aided by the lesser running game and who played without both of his top receivers looked "poor." Yet you wish to declare that you are seeing "clearly." No one has argued that the last half of Dak's season was successful. We all saw him struggle at times. However most sane people recognize that he was far from alone in that regard. And also recognize that having his receivers struggle with drops, his line playing like crap and his running game being largely a non-factor likely contributed to HIS struggles. You know.. the whole team game thing.
 

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You literally just argued that the QB with more yards, more TDs and who was aided by the lesser running game and who played without both of his top receivers looked "poor." Yet you wish to declare that you are seeing "clearly." No one has argued that the last half of Dak's season was successful. We all saw him struggle at times. However most sane people recognize that he was far from alone in that regard. And also recognize that having his receivers struggle with drops, his line playing like crap and his running game being largely a non-factor likely contributed to HIS struggles. You know.. the whole team game thing.

Good for you -- that's the first chapter. You're becoming famous for your long-winded chapters. Keep up the good work with your excuses. I'm not referring to one game. Let's see what Dak can do in the year to come before getting quite so optimistic. I'll be glad to see him rebound if he's got it in him.
 

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Good for you -- that's the first chapter. You're becoming famous for your long-winded chapters. Keep up the good work with your excuses. I'm not referring to one game. Let's see what Dak can do in the year to come before getting quite so optimistic. I'll be glad to see him rebound if he's got it in him.

He does write long posts to get his point across. I think he was vaccinated with a phonograph needle! lol
 
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