Our front office’s way of thinking compared to rest of the NFL

[kskboys]

Burned by too many bad contracts. In business, you usually get what you pay for and you have recourse if you don't. With sports contracts, there isn't much you can do when you are paying a guy millions and he stops putting in the effort needed to maintain his level of play. You just have to bear it until you can get out of the deal. I think too many bad free agent deals have just made them hesitant to give someone big money who hasn't done something in a Dallas uniform. If you have had past success with a star on you're helmet then I guess they can stomach overpaying you for a while. Not a recipe that leads to success. You should be paying for current and future strong play not what you did for us in the past.

Problem was, they are terrible at personnel evaluation, so they kept signing the wrong guys. Brandon Carr is the obvious example, who was a #2 type Cb, but we paid him like a #1. Poor evaluation. Cedric Thornton was a 3-4 DE, but we signed him and decided he was a NT. Poor evalution.

 

[Bobhaze]

and I can name you about 15 teams at least that have done what you said. Hired a "Real Football," man to be GM. Let him hire the HC and develop a plan. and yada yada yada.... then after about 3-4 years, fire everyone and repeat that winning formula all over again. A few of them hit the jackpot at QB, and then all the other moves just seem to look so much better.

Reid…When was the last time an NFL owner won a SB also being the GM? Twenty six years ago when Jerry hoisted the team’s last Lombardi. With a team built by Jimmy Johnson. That was the last time an NFL owner who didn’t hire a GM won a SB.

How long ago was that SB? Tony Romo was 15. Dak was 2. More than half the current Cowboys roster wasn’t even born yet. I was 37; now I’m 63.

The winning owners of the last 26 Lombardis - 100% of them- realize they need someone else to run the team. If you’re arguing that all the owners winning SBs just got lucky because of the QB they had, you seem to be forgetting QBs like Jim McMahon, Phil Simms, Jeff Hostetler, Joe Theissman, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, Trent Dilfer, and Nick Foles.

Great teams win SBs. Most of those great teams do have great QBs. But they also have complete complimentary rosters that work together, not just a collection of stars. But if a great QB is all you need, why did Marino never win one? Drew Brees only won one. Aaron Rodgers in all his glory has one. Russell Wilson has only won one. Mahomes is young but is he guaranteed to win another without a better roster around him?

Why is hiring a GM better? Because those men can be held accountable for failure. The Jones model has proven that with zero accountability comes zero SBs.

 

[Reid1boys]

Reid…When was the last time an NFL owner won a SB also being the GM? Twenty six years ago when Jerry hoisted the team’s last Lombardi. With a team built by Jimmy Johnson. That was the last time an NFL owner who didn’t hire a GM won a SB.

How long ago was that SB? Tony Romo was 15. Dak was 2. More than half the current Cowboys roster wasn’t even born yet. I was 37; now I’m 63.

The winning owners of the last 26 Lombardis - 100% of them- realize they need someone else to run the team. If you’re arguing that all the owners winning SBs just got lucky because of the QB they had, you seem to be forgetting QBs like Jim McMahon, Phil Simms, Jeff Hostetler, Joe Theissman, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, Trent Dilfer, and Nick Foles.

Great teams win SBs. Most of those great teams do have great QBs. But they also have complete complimentary rosters that work together, not just a collection of stars. But if a great QB is all you need, why did Marino never win one? Drew Brees only won one. Aaron Rodgers in all his glory has one. Russell Wilson has only won one. Mahomes is young but is he guaranteed to win another without a better roster around him?

Why is hiring a GM better? Because those men can be held accountable for failure. The Jones model has proven that with zero accountability comes zero SBs.

I can never argue against what you say, because he hasnt won a SB. All im saying is there are many, many teams who do as you say and dont win squat. Not because the GM isnt good, but because they cant land the QB. You think the Bengals GMs all of the sudden got good? or they hit on the right qb. Why you think Chargers going all in right now... not because the GM is hot!

 

[Diehardblues]

BS, read what you want into it.
I am not applauding the FO by any means. They make far too many mistakes over good decisions.
I asked a question, and apparently the answer is NO.

The answer is going to be no from everyone. You should know that. It’s obvious what your intention was and why I responded.

You were either being a smartarse or attempting to discredit the messenger cause you don’t like the message.

 

[Diehardblues]

I can never argue against what you say, because he hasnt won a SB. All im saying is there are many, many teams who do as you say and dont win squat. Not because the GM isnt good, but because they cant land the QB. You think the Bengals GMs all of the sudden got good? or they hit on the right qb. Why you think Chargers going all in right now... not because the GM is hot!

I agree that other teams should be ashamed they haven’t fared any better with more normal operations in place .

But that’s the difference. At least those other teams with more sound or normal Mgmt in place are in better position to eventually get it right.

And I’d like to see how much better these idiots in this toxic culture could do hitting on one these Elite QB.

 

[CouchCoach]

31 other NFL owners do not look at the franchise as a way to employ family members.

Hey, Daddy bought a football team so now we are a football family. No, you are not.

 

[Diehardblues]

31 other NFL owners do not look at the franchise as a way to employ family members.

Hey, Daddy bought a football team so now we are a football family. No, you are not.

Yea. It’s not unusual though for family members to be involved with their family franchises. Just not in football operations. That’s what sets this family ownership apart.

Jerry jr and Charlotte have done tremendous jobs in their roles.

 

[Mannix]

31 other NFL owners do not look at the franchise as a way to employ family members.

Hey, Daddy bought a football team so now we are a football family. No, you are not.

The Manson Family is more likable right now.

 

[Fmart322]

As Cowboys watch our front office clumsily go through another off season, it’s worth noting how our GM and son think compared to the rest of the league’s front office execs.

Here’s how the best NFL FO’s approach every season:

• They have a plan starting with what kind of team they want to be with the end result being winning a SB.
• The plan is strategic, focusing foremost on making their team competitive NOW.
  
• They think of how to put a complete roster together that is complementary of what they are trying to be. In other words, players are brought in that fit together like a puzzle.
• The GM has a clear plan, a strong work ethic, and delegates his authority around that plan.

Here’s how the Cowboys front office approaches every season:

• First and foremost, we must be able to sell our product.
• Let’s get a bunch of guys together that we can market as “stars”. Stars sell. (Essentially this is a fantasy football approach)
• Our plan is to pay “our guys we drafted and we like most” (our stars) big money and go cheap in FA.
• It would really be cool if we could win a Super Bowl.
• Playing football big shot is fun.

The main difference here is simple: the winning owners of the last 26 SBs all recognize if winning a championship is the real goal, then finding a talented football man as GM is paramount. Then letting that guy hire the HC and develop a plan to win and holding them alll accountable for results is THE way to go.

When your owner doesn’t want to get it, Lady Luck is our only hope.

First off, not all the other teams think like that. 2nd, the Cowboys, although inept, are probably above average in running a football team in the NFL.

 

[Mannix]

Yea. It’s not unusual though for family members to be involved with their family franchises. Just not in football operations. That’s what sets this family ownership apart.

Jerry jr and Charlotte have done tremendous jobs in their roles.

Except in the role as fun daddy. ***Some may get this***

 

[Diehardblues]

First off, not all the other teams think like that. 2nd, the Cowboys, although inept, are probably above average in running a football team in the NFL.

Right

The other franchises who haven’t fared as well this era as our football idiots should be ashamed. But at least they have a greater opportunity to finally get it right.

But no doubt our mom and pop operation has performed mediocre and slightly above average. Mainly because they have landed just enough talent to remain somewhat relevant.

 

[75boyz]

First off, not all the other teams think like that. 2nd, the Cowboys, although inept, are probably above average in running a football team in the NFL.

Yep.
They are.

Exactly above average.
224-206 in their last 430 games for the last 26 years.

About a 52% winning clip.
Just enough to keep you interested and exactly what you said as just a little above average.

Can't build a championship team to save their life but if you want to talk about making money that's a whole different story, lol.

 

[FVSTONE]

As Cowboys watch our front office clumsily go through another off season, it’s worth noting how our GM and son think compared to the rest of the league’s front office execs.

Here’s how the best NFL FO’s approach every season:

• They have a plan starting with what kind of team they want to be with the end result being winning a SB.
• The plan is strategic, focusing foremost on making their team competitive NOW.
  
• They think of how to put a complete roster together that is complementary of what they are trying to be. In other words, players are brought in that fit together like a puzzle.
• The GM has a clear plan, a strong work ethic, and delegates his authority around that plan.

Here’s how the Cowboys front office approaches every season:

• First and foremost, we must be able to sell our product.
• Let’s get a bunch of guys together that we can market as “stars”. Stars sell. (Essentially this is a fantasy football approach)
• Our plan is to pay “our guys we drafted and we like most” (our stars) big money and go cheap in FA.
• It would really be cool if we could win a Super Bowl.
• Playing football big shot is fun.

The main difference here is simple: the winning owners of the last 26 SBs all recognize if winning a championship is the real goal, then finding a talented football man as GM is paramount. Then letting that guy hire the HC and develop a plan to win and holding them alll accountable for results is THE way to go.

When your owner doesn’t want to get it, Lady Luck is our only hope.

Well, just look at our number of playoff appearances in the last 20 something years should tell ya about this group of slap d@#ks! They truly don't have a clue on how to put together a bona fide NFL team. Jimmy Johnson put together a group of studs that made it to the SB 3 out of 4 years, once JJ chased him off this organization turned into a run of the mill team that's lived off it's past accomplishments much too long. That's why players around the league hate this team so bad, it's considered America's team and it hasn't done a dam thing for more than two DECADES Ago.

 

[kskboys]

I can never argue against what you say, because he hasnt won a SB. All im saying is there are many, many teams who do as you say and dont win squat. Not because the GM isnt good, but because they cant land the QB. You think the Bengals GMs all of the sudden got good? or they hit on the right qb. Why you think Chargers going all in right now... not because the GM is hot!

Yes, Reid, there is no one way, and no one is saying there is. However, what we do know is that that the way we are doing it has been proven to not work.

 

[kskboys]

Well, just look at our number of playoff appearances in the last 20 something years should tell ya about this group of slap d@#ks! They truly don't have a clue on how to put together a bona fide NFL team. Jimmy Johnson put together a group of studs that made it to the SB 3 out of 4 years, once JJ chased him off this organization turned into a run of the mill team that's lived off it's past accomplishments much too long. That's why players around the league hate this team so bad, it's considered America's team and it hasn't done a dam thing for more than two DECADES Ago.

Slap d@#k plays for the Browns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kskboys]

First off, not all the other teams think like that. 2nd, the Cowboys, although inept, are probably above average in running a football team in the NFL.

And woefully below average at building a super bowl contender. That is the goal, right?

 

[Ranched]

 

[VaqueroTD]

As Cowboys watch our front office clumsily go through another off season, it’s worth noting how our GM and son think compared to the rest of the league’s front office execs.

Here’s how the best NFL FO’s approach every season:

• They have a plan starting with what kind of team they want to be with the end result being winning a SB.
• The plan is strategic, focusing foremost on making their team competitive NOW.
  
• They think of how to put a complete roster together that is complementary of what they are trying to be. In other words, players are brought in that fit together like a puzzle.
• The GM has a clear plan, a strong work ethic, and delegates his authority around that plan.

Here’s how the Cowboys front office approaches every season:

• First and foremost, we must be able to sell our product.
• Let’s get a bunch of guys together that we can market as “stars”. Stars sell. (Essentially this is a fantasy football approach)
• Our plan is to pay “our guys we drafted and we like most” (our stars) big money and go cheap in FA.
• It would really be cool if we could win a Super Bowl.
• Playing football big shot is fun.

The main difference here is simple: the winning owners of the last 26 SBs all recognize if winning a championship is the real goal, then finding a talented football man as GM is paramount. Then letting that guy hire the HC and develop a plan to win and holding them alll accountable for results is THE way to go.

When your owner doesn’t want to get it, Lady Luck is our only hope.

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And capped off with Jerry's boy, the classic Stephen Jones offer.

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[Reid1boys]

Yes, Reid, there is no one way, and no one is saying there is. However, what we do know is that that the way we are doing it has been proven to not work.

until it does....lol

 

[kskboys]

until it does....lol

Let's see, two non-football guys in charge. The top one refuses to watch tape of possible draftees and falls for every bit of spew that comes out.

No, Reid, the chances of this working are pretty much nil. Only way it'll work is if Jerry backs of and lets someone else implement a coherent plan. Which would mean that their way didn't work and they finally decided to try something else.