Dak has ruined this team

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the way dak rushes his throws, without analyzing and reading defenses , is his biggest problem. After 6 years in the NFL, a QB should be much much better at that , especially a top 2-3 paid QB who is supposed to be the key for the Dallas cowboys to go to the super bowl. Sadly, watching Dak play , he just does not seem to be ascending in the mental game ,in slowing the game and making the right decision . As aikman said, all 32 starting QBs can make all the physical throws, but it is the ones who can analyze and read and adjust are the ones that win super bowls. Brady is a prime example at 44 beating defenses with his brains.
If the check downs, the happy feet. the inaccuracies continue next season , as predicted , this team will struggle to win more than 9 games, and that is in the worst division in the NFL.!!
Read this scouting report.It’s so exact.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dak-prescott/32005052-4528-5723-d1b2-96e92ebc1241
 

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thanks for sharing , the analysis nailed it ; his Weaknesses list seem to be still present and malignant :
  • Increase in short pass attempts from 86 to 208 this year reason for higher completion numbers
  • Accuracy on intermediate and deep throws dropped sharply
  • Pocket poise has been compromised
  • Hyper aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw
  • Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions
  • Must speed up the pace of his reads
  • Footwork is a mess
  • Restricted follow through and too often tries to muscle throws with upper body
  • Throws to target rather than leading or throwing them open on short/intermediate throws
  • Too respectful of underneath coverage and must be more willing to challenge the defense
  • Needs to improve anticipation
 

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thanks for sharing , the analysis nailed it ; his Weaknesses list seem to be still present and malignant :
  • Increase in short pass attempts from 86 to 208 this year reason for higher completion numbers
  • Accuracy on intermediate and deep throws dropped sharply
  • Pocket poise has been compromised
  • Hyper aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw
  • Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions
  • Must speed up the pace of his reads
  • Footwork is a mess
  • Restricted follow through and too often tries to muscle throws with upper body
  • Throws to target rather than leading or throwing them open on short/intermediate throws
  • Too respectful of underneath coverage and must be more willing to challenge the defense
  • Needs to improve anticipation
Everything prevalent then is prevalent now to the tee.
 

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I agree that Dak isn’t worth the contract and he is top 15ish…..and that’s with great weapons.

But what would you have done when the contract came up? There was no viable back up plan (that’s on ownership) and if we’d gone FA / trade—we’d have paid more. Only a few QBs worth more and I don’t remember any of those being options at the time.

Would you throw a season or two away over principle? I supposed we could have competed for him in FA….see if the number would have fallen, but I think someone would have paid him.
 

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he's Kirk Cousins all over again. flashy stats against garbage teams, wilts in big games against good teams. zero substance.

edit: at least Kirk knows how to get the ball to his #1 WR.
Dak likes 5 yd passes to TE’s and dump offs to RB’s.
 

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thanks for sharing , the analysis nailed it ; his Weaknesses list seem to be still present and malignant :
  • Increase in short pass attempts from 86 to 208 this year reason for higher completion numbers
  • Accuracy on intermediate and deep throws dropped sharply
  • Pocket poise has been compromised
  • Hyper aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw
  • Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions
  • Must speed up the pace of his reads
  • Footwork is a mess
  • Restricted follow through and too often tries to muscle throws with upper body
  • Throws to target rather than leading or throwing them open on short/intermediate throws
  • Too respectful of underneath coverage and must be more willing to challenge the defense
  • Needs to improve anticipation
All very TRUE and will continue to plague this Tier 3 QB.
P.S.Now his also a gimp afraid to use his legs so get that Field goal kicker ready and able baby!!!
 

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thanks for sharing , the analysis nailed it ; his Weaknesses list seem to be still present and malignant :
  • Increase in short pass attempts from 86 to 208 this year reason for higher completion numbers
  • Accuracy on intermediate and deep throws dropped sharply
  • Pocket poise has been compromised
  • Hyper aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw
  • Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions
  • Must speed up the pace of his reads
  • Footwork is a mess
  • Restricted follow through and too often tries to muscle throws with upper body
  • Throws to target rather than leading or throwing them open on short/intermediate throws
  • Too respectful of underneath coverage and must be more willing to challenge the defense
  • Needs to improve anticipation

These are the ones I notice. Hyper aware of pressure. But I do notice he does now slide in the pocket to buy time.

Anticipation got better since 2018. Not great, but definitely better.
 

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I agree that Dak isn’t worth the contract and he is top 15ish…..and that’s with great weapons.

But what would you have done when the contract came up? There was no viable back up plan (that’s on ownership) and if we’d gone FA / trade—we’d have paid more. Only a few QBs worth more and I don’t remember any of those being options at the time.

Would you throw a season or two away over principle? I supposed we could have competed for him in FA….see if the number would have fallen, but I think someone would have paid him.

That's the question everyone asks. People frown on price gouging in the real world, yet accept it when it comes to these QBs.

My answer is, what difference does it make if we have very little chance at the ultimate goal? Would the Browns have paid Mayfield if they couldn't get Watson?

Not signing Dak would have put the Cowboys in bad shape for who knows how many years? Signing him makes Dallas decent, but not a true contender for how many years? I would have just moved on from him.
 

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thanks for sharing , the analysis nailed it ; his Weaknesses list seem to be still present and malignant :
  • Increase in short pass attempts from 86 to 208 this year reason for higher completion numbers
  • Accuracy on intermediate and deep throws dropped sharply
  • Pocket poise has been compromised
  • Hyper aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw
  • Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions
  • Must speed up the pace of his reads
  • Footwork is a mess
  • Restricted follow through and too often tries to muscle throws with upper body
  • Throws to target rather than leading or throwing them open on short/intermediate throws
  • Too respectful of underneath coverage and must be more willing to challenge the defense
  • Needs to improve anticipation

Even a Donovan McNabb comparison in there which is exactly how I think of Dak. Uncanny.
 

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The NFL Network showed the cowboays at tampa game. it is amazing how many errant passes Dak threw , and how many open receivers he missed . Amari and cee dee were open so many times and he took the check down or threw inaccurately. I wish he was the right QB . but he is too average and disappears or folds against good teams. He had a good game against new england , but honestly , too little too late , and this is not the brady patriots team . The tampa at dallas game will give perspective as well.
but he is not the only problem we have .
I am not saying he is good, but the line of logic made no sense back then and no sense now. yes, he has to play better. Jones made a mistake we have to live with for a couple more years at least (and knowing jones maybe longer)
 

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I am not saying he is good, but the line of logic made no sense back then and no sense now. yes, he has to play better. Jones made a mistake we have to live with for a couple more years at least (and knowing jones maybe longer)
Don't get why people don't understand this or blame Dak for his contract dollars, I get the performance side of it but he is in Dallas for at least 5 more seasons if not longer. On the contract anyone who says they wouldn't of taken that kind of deal from their employer if offered is just not truthful. His cap hits are large the next 2 years so look for more mega dollars extension soon Jerry has to prove to everyone the QB he drafted is elite even if he holds back the team.
 

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No, I’m not .Actually read this scouting report for Dak.Everything it says is so spot on w/ his issues today.If you disagree w/ it, you obviously are blind, don’t really know football, or just a a Dak apologist.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dak-prescott/32005052-4528-5723-d1b2-96e92ebc1241
ok, so this thread went from Dak ruined this team because of salary cap implications to lets go back 6 years ago and look at the scouting report.

what does that have to do with today after 6 years. I can show you scouting reports for 100s of players that were bad, but then they turned to good players in NFL and vice versa.

and Jones knew that report. Jones saw the same thing happen on the field. jones had assessment, scouting report and first hand account from coaches. jones could have talked to other GMs and scouts in the league if he wanted to. yet Jones handed Dak a large contract. Jones put this team together that can't compete. why did Jones do that?

p.s.

who cares about this scouting report any more. old news.
 

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when you say Mahomes is a choke artist and dak is elite.
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Who said dack is elite. Quit making things up.
 

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the way dak rushes his throws, without analyzing and reading defenses , is his biggest problem. After 6 years in the NFL, a QB should be much much better at that , especially a top 2-3 paid QB who is supposed to be the key for the Dallas cowboys to go to the super bowl. Sadly, watching Dak play , he just does not seem to be ascending in the mental game ,in slowing the game and making the right decision . As aikman said, all 32 starting QBs can make all the physical throws, but it is the ones who can analyze and read and adjust are the ones that win super bowls. Brady is a prime example at 44 beating defenses with his brains.
If the check downs, the happy feet. the inaccuracies continue next season , as predicted , this team will struggle to win more than 9 games, and that is in the worst division in the NFL.!!
who says an NFL QB should be better? good, elite QBs are better, get better, but there are litellay 100s over the years that weren't better, didn't get better. that's why they are no longer in the league.

and Dak is now top 5 paid, so lower your expectations. I mean you are going by that logic, then your expectations based on salary ranking should be adjusted as well. and did you have the same expectations when he played on the 2M contract?
 

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thanks for sharing , the analysis nailed it ; his Weaknesses list seem to be still present and malignant :
  • Increase in short pass attempts from 86 to 208 this year reason for higher completion numbers
  • Accuracy on intermediate and deep throws dropped sharply
  • Pocket poise has been compromised
  • Hyper aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw
  • Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions
  • Must speed up the pace of his reads
  • Footwork is a mess
  • Restricted follow through and too often tries to muscle throws with upper body
  • Throws to target rather than leading or throwing them open on short/intermediate throws
  • Too respectful of underneath coverage and must be more willing to challenge the defense
  • Needs to improve anticipation
seriously. you had never seen this before? or you are just feeding him because you want to complain.

I don't get point of this. he sucks. now what? what's your thoughts on alternate plan? what can cowboys do? what should cowboys do? who you got? what can be done about Jones.
 

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seriously. you had never seen this before? or you are just feeding him because you want to complain.

I don't get point of this. he sucks. now what? what's your thoughts on alternate plan? what can cowboys do? what should cowboys do? who you got? what can be done about Jones.
They’d rather have Matt Cassel. Are there other quarterbacks I’d rather have than Prescott, absolutely. But I remember 12 after Troy I’m glad that are gone. People forget about how bad the alternative could be. We should be complaining about the running game not the quarterback
 

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Dak likes 5 yd passes to TE’s and dump offs to RB’s.
That’s how you win football games. Just ask Mr. Brady. Methodical dink and dunk is a Winning culture. Gallup would say you are wrong again. He drops dimes on the Receiver
 
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