Are Dak's Problems Mostly Mental or Physical?

[Cboyfan4ever]

Dak needs to carry not be carried.......sorry his price tag demands it!!!

Unfortunately for us, he doesn’t have the ability to do that.

 

[morat1959]

Stats aren't bias or narrative driven.

People SAY Dak isn't accurate, stats PROVE otherwise. Especially compared to other QB's that the same people say thats better than Dak.

Watch film, compare stats, improve your football knowledge.

1st or 2nd chair?

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

1st or 2nd chair?

Nope

 

[Mk2_Cowboys]

Dak played incredible until the moment he got hurt against Patriots

 

[ondaedg]

Dak played incredible until the moment he got hurt against Patriots

His injury may have affected his performance but the Denver game was where it started as far as I can tell. Defenses covering 2-4 of our receivers with seven or eight guys is a losing proposition for most QBs including Mahomes and Rodgers.

 

[McKDaddy]

I can't remember who it was. I can't remember if it was on this forum or the old Cowboys forum. What I'm about to tell you might make your head hurt. But someone on these boards actually said the opposite. To be careful. To not always trust what you see. Trust the stats. I swear I am not lying.

Oh, I believe you. Sometimes I think they must be making the personnel decisions. 26 years of abject failure, but the stats say they are due.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

His injury may have affected his performance but the Denver game was where it started as far as I can tell. Defenses covering 2-4 of our receivers with seven or eight guys is a losing proposition for most QBs including Mahomes and Rodgers.

which only means one thing. if you can consistently drop 7 into coverage, any QB will struggle, even the great ones. but this points to the OL, the only way teams play that style, dropping 6, 7 into coverage agaisnt 2,3, recievers, is that they are able to generate consistent pass rush with the 4,5 front guys and that they can stop the run, so they don't have to bring too many players into the box.

 

[ondaedg]

which only means one thing. if you can consistently drop 7 into coverage, any QB will struggle, even the great ones. but this points to the OL, the only way teams play that style, dropping 6, 7 into coverage agaisnt 2,3, recievers, is that they are able to generate consistent pass rush with the 4,5 front guys and that they can stop the run, so they don't have to bring too many players into the box.

Agreed especially on those pass plays in which CW would just completely whiff and let his man just run straight through untouched. But even more importantly is the lack of push on running plays. I’ve never seen our oline at the snap get so little push up the middle which is why DCs were perfectly fine with dropping 7 into coverage. McGovern was the worst as he would wait for the DT to initiate the contact. And Biadasz well he would inexplicably block the wrong guy or get bull rushed back into the rb. Pass defenses stuffing our running plays is a recipe for disaster for any qb.

 

[RonnieT24]

Agreed especially on those pass plays in which CW would just completely whiff and let his man just run straight through untouched. But even more importantly is the lack of push on running plays. I’ve never seen our oline at the snap get so little push up the middle which is why DCs were perfectly fine with dropping 7 into coverage. McGovern was the worst as he would wait for the DT to initiate the contact. And Biadasz well he would inexplicably block the wrong guy or get bull rushed back into the rb. Pass defenses stuffing our running plays is a recipe for disaster for any qb.

Even worse than the running plays being stuffed is them not being called at all. Or our offense having too many "automatic" audibles out of them just because of a look. This same issue used to bite Romo in the arse all the time until like his 10th year in the league. Teams show a certain look, hear "kill kill kill" then back off knowing that they just eliminated the run from our playbook. If Dak needs to REALLY get better at one thing, recognizing this okie doke is #1 on the list for me. As you guys have stated, if a team can get pressure with 4 or even sometimes with 3 then you're sending 2-3 receivers out trying to get them open again 7 or 8 defenders. Good luck with that. As we saw in the Super Bowl both the Rams AND the Bengals were largely unsuccessful running the ball for any big chunks. Yet neither team ever went away from it completely. Because their OCs and presumably their QBs knew that in order to be able to pass effectively, they needed the defense not to be dropping everybody but the DTs into coverage.. and the only way to do that was to keep running the ball. Dak and Moore need to spend this entire offseason working on recognizing the okie doke and having a plan to attack it.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Dak needs to carry not be carried.......sorry his price tag demands it!!!

Just about all quarterbacks need a strong supporting cast; unless you're talking about Brady or Rodgers.

For example, Matthew Stafford, Lions, or Matthew Stafford, Rams? Would Stafford have a ring if he remained in Detroit? Same quarterback, different cast around him. That's all I can say.

 

[morat1959]

Just about all quarterbacks need a strong supporting cast; unless you're talking about Brady or Rodgers.

For example, Matthew Stafford, Lions, or Matthew Stafford, Rams? Would Stafford have a ring if he remained in Detroit? Same quarterback, different cast around him. That's all I can say.

Dak sux!

 

[RonnieT24]

Just about all quarterbacks need a strong supporting cast; unless you're talking about Brady or Rodgers.

For example, Matthew Stafford, Lions, or Matthew Stafford, Rams? Would Stafford have a ring if he remained in Detroit? Same quarterback, different cast around him. That's all I can say.

Brady played the bulk of his career backed by a top 5 defense. I think the Pats were number 1 overall in defense like 5 times in his career there and top 5 another 5 or 6 times. He has been great but the narrative that he's been "carrying" these teams over the course of his career is vastly overblown. Hell even the Bucs had a top 5 defense two years ago.. But nobody talks about that..

 

[sbark]

Dak is a instinctively a system Qb , trapped halfway to a pro system.

When under pressure, like a golf swing, reverts to old bad habits...

K.Moore needs a chapter in book with more rub plays, motion, slot, bunch, deep piks, that work with his system habits...to help him...

When Gallup stopped getting sideline Go patterns....defenses moved up into scheme.

Need a wr or 2 that can take cover off the top

 

[Hadenough]

Brady played the bulk of his career backed by a top 5 defense. I think the Pats were number 1 overall in defense like 5 times in his career there and top 5 another 5 or 6 times. He has been great but the narrative that he's been "carrying" these teams over the course of his career is vastly overblown. Hell even the Bucs had a top 5 defense two years ago.. But nobody talks about that..

You do realize Brady makes players around him better though. Those defenses wouldn't of been as good had Brady didn't play keep away with the football. Plus the defense went balls to the wall to get him the ball back because they have confidence in him.
Brady uses ball placement on his WRs too. Sure he might throw a few high balls but on that 3rd and 10 he will fire the ball low and right into a WR sliding to the ground in a wall of traffic.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

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Brady played the bulk of his career backed by a top 5 defense. I think the Pats were number 1 overall in defense like 5 times in his career there and top 5 another 5 or 6 times. He has been great but the narrative that he's been "carrying" these teams over the course of his career is vastly overblown. Hell even the Bucs had a top 5 defense two years ago.. But nobody talks about that..

We have reached new levels of PATHETIC!!!!!
And all this to excuse inepto Dak.....OMG

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Brady played the bulk of his career backed by a top 5 defense. I think the Pats were number 1 overall in defense like 5 times in his career there and top 5 another 5 or 6 times. He has been great but the narrative that he's been "carrying" these teams over the course of his career is vastly overblown. Hell even the Bucs had a top 5 defense two years ago.. But nobody talks about that..

it doesn't matter. yes, all QBs need a support system around them. no QB does it alone, but its what you can do when you have those around you. Brady translated those to 7 rings.

 

[RonnieT24]

You do realize Brady makes players around him better though. Those defenses wouldn't of been as good had Brady didn't play keep away with the football. Plus the defense went balls to the wall to get him the ball back because they have confidence in him.
Brady uses ball placement on his WRs too. Sure he might throw a few high balls but on that 3rd and 10 he will fire the ball low and right into a WR sliding to the ground in a wall of traffic.

While I would never argue that Brady's greatness does inspire his teammates, the flip side has also been shown to be true over the years where defenses KNOW how crappy their offense/QB is and raise their play to super human levels.. See '99 Ravens or '02 Bucs... or even '14 Broncos. It happens both ways..

 

[RonnieT24]

it doesn't matter. yes, all QBs need a support system around them. no QB does it alone, but its what you can do when you have those around you. Brady translated those to 7 rings.

Yeah it absolutely comes down to what you can do when things are "right." But go look up the number of playoff wins Brady got while scoring 20 points or less. I think you would be amazed..

 

[5Stars]

Yeah it absolutely comes down to what you can do when things are "right." But go look up the number of playoff wins Brady got while scoring 20 points or less. I think you would be amazed..

Oh, I'm sure if Dak had Brady's teams he would have won seven SB. That is essentially what you are trying to get at.

You're so transparent from our last convo that I know just what you are all about.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

I think Dak is plenty good enough coupled with a STRONG running game. Now, do we have the backs to produce a strong ground game? I don't really think we do.......