Are Dak's Problems Mostly Mental or Physical?

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It doesn’t bother me at all. It’s entertaining. There are some posters that are Dak lovers instead of Cowboy lovers. They care more about Dak and his stats than they care about the team winning. Arguing with them is cheap entertainment.
That's in your head dude, the vast majority are fans of all the players. Not to mention all of the Dak spewing has a toxic tone to it.
And, how would you know? All of you guys echo the same talking points and when someone challenges you, there's no debate. Irrational.
 

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That's in your head dude, the vast majority are fans of all the players. Not to mention all of the Dak spewing has a toxic tone to it.
And, how would you know? All of you guys echo the same talking points and when someone challenges you, there's no debate. Irrational.
Dak opinions are not toxic. Childish insults about them.....are.
 

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All you people base your opinions on stats.Stats lie and don’t even come close to telling the whole story.If you actually watched the games and analyze,your eyes are the best tool to judge.I don’t need stats to see that Dak was very good the 1st 5-6 games and terrible thereafter.Anyone who says otherwise is just an apologist and blind.Good night.
I asked for some measures. some facts, some measurable attributes to back up your assertions...you keep going back to stats....yet, all the stats point to you being mostly wrong. if he is so inaccurate, then why was he 4th in completion percentage? if he is so inaccurate then why was Dallas 9th in YAC? why was he 5th in total TDs, with one less game than those ahead of him? he was 5th in TD%. you figure someone so inaccurate would throw more interceptions, because he is off the mark, but he was 18th worse in interceptions, with 10....

the FACTS are that if you are bad, over time, your bad inaccurate throws catch up with you and normalize everything. so either Cooper, Wilson, Gallup, Schultz are the best pass catchers in the NFL, although we have folks screaming their head off on why we gave Schultz a franchise tag and that CD and Gallup aren't #1 type WRs..... so which is it? either these guys are great or Dak is not as bad as you say.

btw, I am not a Dak supporter. I am also not a hater like you. those are the two extremes. I want Dak to play better, I think he shrunk in big moment in the playoffs and that's when you have to raise your game. I know some of his issues, which you as a self promoted former coach totally missed and never talked about. you have no idea why he is inaccurate even based on your own statements.

and I agree. he played great in first 6 games, then something happened. if you truly are a coach, were a coach, then you could tell me why. in fact I have said it before, I actually watched him over the years and the reasons are super obvious. I watched him and to see what was different between first half of season and the second half and wrote multiple posts about it. yet you have no clue. you just rant and provide NOTHING that can even explain why you claim what you claim.

perhaps, you did coach peewee league for 15 years as you claim to have done.

you know nothing. you are clueless as they come.....if you can't back up what you say, with logic, facts, something. other than you half drunk eye test with beer bottle bottom glasses, you got nothing.
 
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Roger Staubach could come out of retirement and be the highest rated passer if he faced the teams that Dak faced to get that rating.
I wouldn't doubt it. Staubach is a HOF QB. if he played today, his stats would be out of this world. he was two generations too early for the type of QB NFL wants today, a mobile QB, that can scramble, run and can throw like he did.
 

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That's in your head dude, the vast majority are fans of all the players. Not to mention all of the Dak spewing has a toxic tone to it.
And, how would you know? All of you guys echo the same talking points and when someone challenges you, there's no debate. Irrational.
You may want to reference some of the post season polls they had here. The sentiment toward Dak skewed heavily to the negative side.
 

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Unfortunately I think we have a double whammy situation with Dak, i.e., he has both mental and physical problems. On the one hand he has weird mechanics and this results in worm burners and passes sailing over the outstretched arms of receivers. On the other hand, his inaccuracy has clearly affected his confidence, to the point he never attempts difficult passes especially in clutch situations, culminating in that wonderfully comic slide to end last season.
What do the rest of the zoners think?


Why would you suspect anyone on this site would have a salient comment that proves to be correct?
 

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I asked for some measures. some facts, some measurable attributes to back up your assertions...you keep going back to stats....yet, all the stats point to you being mostly wrong. if he is so inaccurate, then why was he 4th in completion percentage? if he is so inaccurate then why was Dallas 9th in YAC? why was he 5th in total TDs, with one less game than those ahead of him? he was 5th in TD%. you figure someone so inaccurate would throw more interceptions, because he is off the mark, but he was 18th worse in interceptions, with 10....

the FACTS are that if you are bad, over time, your bad inaccurate throws catch up with you and normalize everything. so either Cooper, Wilson, Gallup, Schultz are the best pass catchers in the NFL, although we have folks screaming their head off on why we gave Schultz a franchise tag and that CD and Gallup aren't #1 type WRs..... so which is it? either these guys are great or Dak is not as bad as you say.

btw, I am not a Dak supporter. I am also not a hater like you. those are the two extremes. I want Dak to play better, I think he shrunk in big moment in the playoffs and that's when you have to raise your game. I know some of his issues, which you as a self promoted former coach totally missed and never talked about. you have no idea why he is inaccurate even based on your own statements.

and I agree. he played great in first 6 games, then something happened. if you truly are a coach, were a coach, then you could tell me why. in fact I have said it before, I actually watched him over the years and the reasons are super obvious. I watched him and to see what was different between first half of season and the second half and wrote multiple posts about it. yet you have no clue. you just rant and provide NOTHING that can even explain why you claim what you claim.

perhaps, you did coach peewee league for 15 years as you claim to have done.

you know nothing. you are clueless as they come.....if you can't back up what you say, with logic, facts, something. other than you half drunk eye test with beer bottle bottom glasses, you got nothing.

Anybody that states that Dak was "terrible" after he came back from the injury must be automatically disqualified from any reasonable discussion. Just because he was not out of this world good like he was before does not mean he was "terrible." He was decent.. Maybe even good. But if people want to see terrible they need to go watch some other QBs and get back to me. Dak's completion percentages, yards, passer rating .. all were still pretty good after the injury. It just was not as good as it had been before. He had 21 TDs and 6 INTs in games 8-17 after going 16 TD to 4 INTs in the first 6 games. His completion percentage went from around 75% to around 65%. He had 4 bad games.. Denver, KC, NO and WFT I. 5 if you count the playoff game. His passer rating in the rest was well above 100. Dak played okay in most of the past-injury games. In fact he was stellar in several of them. What he was not was consistent. We know it wasn't all him but I think the injury took away just enough of his game that it bit him (and us) in the you know what. Hopefully he stays injury free this season and keeps playing at that pre-injury level all year.
 

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Anybody that states that Dak was "terrible" after he came back from the injury must be automatically disqualified from any reasonable discussion. Just because he was not out of this world good like he was before does not mean he was "terrible." He was decent.. Maybe even good. But if people want to see terrible they need to go watch some other QBs and get back to me. Dak's completion percentages, yards, passer rating .. all were still pretty good after the injury. It just was not as good as it had been before. He had 21 TDs and 6 INTs in games 8-17 after going 16 TD to 4 INTs in the first 6 games. His completion percentage went from around 75% to around 65%. He had 4 bad games.. Denver, KC, NO and WFT I. 5 if you count the playoff game. His passer rating in the rest was well above 100. Dak played okay in most of the past-injury games. In fact he was stellar in several of them. What he was not was consistent. We know it wasn't all him but I think the injury took away just enough of his game that it bit him (and us) in the you know what. Hopefully he stays injury free this season and keeps playing at that pre-injury level all year.
Ironically enough, Prescott may have been the bright spot in the 49ers game. No stellar performance by any means, but he had half of the total yards rushing & even ran one for a TD, got sacked 5 times, got hit 14 and an enormous percentage of pressure per play. And, a dozen penalties that killed significant gains on drives. And for how much I hear he "can't read a defense" he sure did read blitz and find Cooper open on a 1 on 1 for a TD just fine. The ultimate team sport characterized by some here to mean it's all on Dak.
 

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Dak has problems at both ends......physical because his arm is inaccurate and weak, also his calf and ankle have limited his mobility now which used to be his best strength; mental because he can't read defenses and is flustered easily. Sees more ghosts out there than the kid from 6th Sense. I think we have a head case for a QB now.
 

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So breakdown videos equate to highlight videos to you?!?Come on now you're smarter than that.

He broke down Dak's deep ball accuracy compared to other top qb's that year. He even showed you how to find and calculate the percentage's.

Dak being inaccurate is a myth, the film and the numbers from REAL GAMES prove it. Yall can have those meaningless throwing competitions.
Remember that Cardinals game. Just another long line of games against better teams where Dak has a chance move the meter on the measuring stick. I said before the cards game it was good game to see if he has gotten better. They lost I kept saying that's what is going to happen in the playoffs. And sure as he'll it did. That clown comparing Dak to Brady and Rodgers is complete idiot. If you can't see the difference than I can't help you but these stats are worthless until you get into the true stats like TD completion percentage inside the 20 and then the 10.
 

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He’s going to get many of those you mentioned above fired before he’s out of the nfl.
I think some of them are doing the self-inflicted because of entitlement of some kind.
 

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You do realize that Dak is considered one of the best tight window passers right? Cooper was 98th in yac and Schultz averaged a whole yard more in separation than Amari. Perhaps there’s something to these darned facts eh?
No, I do not realize that he is one of the best tight window passers. I guess that's where we're off because I do not see that at all. Tight window passers are not usually that inconsistent.
 

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Bringing up Prescott in that playoff game as the reason they lost is absurd. It would be easier to point out the players that didn't help with that loss as too many contributed including Boy Wonder, Parsons, who's self-professed job was Samuel. I did not see Prescott miss one tackle on their RB. Did not see him get penalty after penalty but he did have to overcome that.

The talking heads reduce it down to the QB to make it easier for them, we do not have to do that. There are always multiple contributors to every loss and win.

You don't like him so you lay it all on him. And you, you like him and defend him even when he deserves criticism for his play.

Want to play the blame game in the playoff game? Start with coaching. I am damn sick and tired of Cowboys teams being poorly prepared and honed to play playoff games. This has been going on for a long time and they are not in enough playoff games for this to be the case. Where in the hell is the sense of urgency in this franchise? It is as if the goal is just to make the playoffs, everything is just gravy after that.
 

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I asked for some measures. some facts, some measurable attributes to back up your assertions...you keep going back to stats....yet, all the stats point to you being mostly wrong. if he is so inaccurate, then why was he 4th in completion percentage? if he is so inaccurate then why was Dallas 9th in YAC? why was he 5th in total TDs, with one less game than those ahead of him? he was 5th in TD%. you figure someone so inaccurate would throw more interceptions, because he is off the mark, but he was 18th worse in interceptions, with 10....

the FACTS are that if you are bad, over time, your bad inaccurate throws catch up with you and normalize everything. so either Cooper, Wilson, Gallup, Schultz are the best pass catchers in the NFL, although we have folks screaming their head off on why we gave Schultz a franchise tag and that CD and Gallup aren't #1 type WRs..... so which is it? either these guys are great or Dak is not as bad as you say.

btw, I am not a Dak supporter. I am also not a hater like you. those are the two extremes. I want Dak to play better, I think he shrunk in big moment in the playoffs and that's when you have to raise your game. I know some of his issues, which you as a self promoted former coach totally missed and never talked about. you have no idea why he is inaccurate even based on your own statements.

and I agree. he played great in first 6 games, then something happened. if you truly are a coach, were a coach, then you could tell me why. in fact I have said it before, I actually watched him over the years and the reasons are super obvious. I watched him and to see what was different between first half of season and the second half and wrote multiple posts about it. yet you have no clue. you just rant and provide NOTHING that can even explain why you claim what you claim.

perhaps, you did coach peewee league for 15 years as you claim to have done.

you know nothing. you are clueless as they come.....if you can't back up what you say, with logic, facts, something. other than you half drunk eye test with beer bottle bottom glasses, you got nothing.
Hey dbag!I’m not going to spend all day looking up stats. I’m way too busy for that when I can see w/ my own 2 eyes what the deal is while watching games and tape.You apparently aren’t football savvy enough to see anything w/out your freakin’ stats.I’ll tell you what, since you have nothing to do, you can look them up for me.This is about completion%.
How many passes are 1-5 yds “in air”
6-10
15-20
20-25 ect, ect, ect.
How many of his long gains were 2 yd passes w/ rac?
What was his % on passes 20-30 yds in air or longer?
Bottom line, when you throw short often,% will be higher and by no means does completion % mean you’re accurate.Since you’re a keyboard warrior,I’m sure you’ll enjoy looking this up.Have at it Hoss!
 
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