CFZ The Organic Tank

[Hawkeye19]

It was clear that JJ was upset after the SF loss as he did not immediately give a vote of confidence to MM’s return. He talks up Quinn as a potential HC. The relationship between MM and the FO seems icy and tense now— a far cry from the sleepover pajama days of 2020.

Since the SF loss? JJ trades, restructures, and cuts bloated salary and unwanted players from the roster.

MM is 2 years into a 5 year deal. JJ is paying him whether he is HC or not. Do you bring in a new HC and pay two guys while you adjust your roster and try and solve your cap issues?

Or do you pay the current HC and saddle him with roster reforms that will lead to a justifiable firing after a mediocre year— while at the same time clearing cap and roster issues to set up your next HC in a decent position?

I think the FO is making some course corrections and are allowing McCarthy to “go down with the ship” in order to be in a better position in 2023 with either Quinn or Payton installed as HC.

This is the only strategy that makes any sense— considering the mood and moves made this offseason.

I am not saying I am in support of this strategy— just mulling over the current state of the franchise and the puzzling decisions of the FO. But— if you want out of some bad decisions you have made in terms of contracts, you are going to have to face the music at some point and eat a crap sandwich.

Best to eat those sandwiches in one bite rather than a nibble here or there. Is it possible that this strange offseason is evidence that the FO is allowing this season to tank in order get out from some bad moves and deals with their eyes on 2023?

 

[Bullflop]

A very fitting post here, Hawkeye. The routine embarrassments that our latest SF loss to them surely signals a familiar scenario that hurts us in no small measure. I can't help but wonder how many more of these post-season embarrassments might be in store for this frail franchise to endure.

Will this team ever have the staunch ability to boldly stand up to these tough teams with character to humiliate us at every turn? Well, I guess we could argue that we came close. But is close enough to heal the wounds that we're left with to lick after each post season loss? One has to wonder if another year is enough to resolve it. Is one more year of a good draft, minus good vet FA help sufficient? H-m-m, seems like we're about to find out.

 

[Parcells4Life]

Yep. It seems Jerry is infatuated with Sean and wants to be able to have a shot at him before he’s done. Supposedly there was a trade in place that nearly happened after the Rams playoff game to bring him in.

 

[Gaede]

It's the only way this offseason makes sense.

He was so embarrassed with our playoff loss that he did ... absolutely nothing to make the team better.

There is also another angle--the Joneses are too busy quelling their many legal issues to fully focus on the football team. Of course, that's what happens when you insist on being owner and playing GM at the same time

 

[nightrain]

I think it's way to early to give up on the 2022 season and thought of some master tanking plan is too far out there for me to buy into.

Sean Payton is not going to coach in Dallas. The amount of capital to attain his services will be exorbitant. The real killer of any potential deal will be his insistence to have final say on all football personnel decisions.

From my perspective, the Cowboys need to change their scheme on offense to be more of a running/short passing team and that starts with dumping some of those WR assets from a passing game that does not win in crunch time. Trading Cooper saved a lot of cap space and provided an opportunity to make another part of the roster better. I hope they don't go WR in the 1st round of the draft.

The OL was inconsistent with too many penalties in critical moments. They dumped the dude who was the biggest violator. I see OL being a possibility in the 1st round if the right guy is there and remaining DL is not at 1st round value.

Randy was essentially signed, but the sloppy legal team of the Cowboys had some really unrealistic language in their contract language. It seemed very much like Gregory waned to go to Denver and he did. The dude was not reliable. I see DL as the likely target in the 1st round of the draft.

Let's not forget how effective the running game was before Zeke hurt his knee. They were almost unstoppable. The Cowboys have an excellent 1-2 punch, but they need a third guy to fill the void if 1 or 2 goes down. A guy who will add versatility as a receiver out of the backfield.

Free agency is not over. There are some guys left that can be useful to plug into a rotation or position of need for a year.

One critical thing that needs to happen in Dallas is for Moore to be held in check with his playcalling. His situational football IQ is very low. McCarthy has to take more control over the offense in 2022.

 

[75boyz]

I think it's way to early to give up on the 2022 season and thought of some master tanking plan is too far out there for me to buy into.

Sean Payton is not going to coach in Dallas. The amount of capital to attain his services will be exorbitant. The real killer of any potential deal will be his insistence to have final say on all football personnel decisions.

From my perspective, the Cowboys need to change their scheme on offense to be more of a running/short passing team and that starts with dumping some of those WR assets from a passing game that does not win in crunch time. Trading Cooper saved a lot of cap space and provided an opportunity to make another part of the roster better. I hope they don't go WR in the 1st round of the draft.

The OL was inconsistent with too many penalties in critical moments. They dumped the dude who was the biggest violator. I see OL being a possibility in the 1st round if the right guy is there and remaining DL is not at 1st round value.

Randy was essentially signed, but the sloppy legal team of the Cowboys had some really unrealistic language in their contract language. It seemed very much like Gregory waned to go to Denver and he did. The dude was not reliable. I see DL as the likely target in the 1st round of the draft.

Let's not forget how effective the running game was before Zeke hurt his knee. They were almost unstoppable. The Cowboys have an excellent 1-2 punch, but they need a third guy to fill the void if 1 or 2 goes down. A guy who will add versatility as a receiver out of the backfield.

Free agency is not over. There are some guys left that can be useful to plug into a rotation or position of need for a year.

One critical thing that needs to happen in Dallas is for Moore to be held in check with his playcalling. His situational football IQ is very low. McCarthy has to take more control over the offense in 2022.

Extremely well written post. Agree with almost all your points. I do not feel the Jones will follow your advice unfortunately.

 

[Ranching]

It was clear that JJ was upset after the SF loss as he did not immediately give a vote of confidence to MM’s return. He talks up Quinn as a potential HC. The relationship between MM and the FO seems icy and tense now— a far cry from the sleepover pajama days of 2020.

Since the SF loss? JJ trades, restructures, and cuts bloated salary and unwanted players from the roster.

MM is 2 years into a 5 year deal. JJ is paying him whether he is HC or not. Do you bring in a new HC and pay two guys while you adjust your roster and try and solve your cap issues?

Or do you pay the current HC and saddle him with roster reforms that will lead to a justifiable firing after a mediocre year— while at the same time clearing cap and roster issues to set up your next HC in a decent position?

I think the FO is making some course corrections and are allowing McCarthy to “go down with the ship” in order to be in a better position in 2023 with either Quinn or Payton installed as HC.

This is the only strategy that makes any sense— considering the mood and moves made this offseason.

I am not saying I am in support of this strategy— just mulling over the current state of the franchise and the puzzling decisions of the FO. But— if you want out of some bad decisions you have made in terms of contracts, you are going to have to face the music at some point and eat a crap sandwich.

Best to eat those sandwiches in one bite rather than a nibble here or there. Is it possible that this strange offseason is evidence that the FO is allowing this season to tank in order get out from some bad moves and deals with their eyes on 2023?

Maybe he can pay him with bitcoin

 

[CowboyRoy]

It was clear that JJ was upset after the SF loss as he did not immediately give a vote of confidence to MM’s return. He talks up Quinn as a potential HC. The relationship between MM and the FO seems icy and tense now— a far cry from the sleepover pajama days of 2020.

Since the SF loss? JJ trades, restructures, and cuts bloated salary and unwanted players from the roster.

MM is 2 years into a 5 year deal. JJ is paying him whether he is HC or not. Do you bring in a new HC and pay two guys while you adjust your roster and try and solve your cap issues?

Or do you pay the current HC and saddle him with roster reforms that will lead to a justifiable firing after a mediocre year— while at the same time clearing cap and roster issues to set up your next HC in a decent position?

I think the FO is making some course corrections and are allowing McCarthy to “go down with the ship” in order to be in a better position in 2023 with either Quinn or Payton installed as HC.

This is the only strategy that makes any sense— considering the mood and moves made this offseason.

I am not saying I am in support of this strategy— just mulling over the current state of the franchise and the puzzling decisions of the FO. But— if you want out of some bad decisions you have made in terms of contracts, you are going to have to face the music at some point and eat a crap sandwich.

Best to eat those sandwiches in one bite rather than a nibble here or there. Is it possible that this strange offseason is evidence that the FO is allowing this season to tank in order get out from some bad moves and deals with their eyes on 2023?

Are you saying that the Cowboys are tanking and so letting MM hang around for that?

If thats your angle its laughable. The Cowboys are continuing to improve and restructure the roster from past mistakes. Getting rid of the right people when they can and keeping the right players. Cant fault anything they have done so far. Heck even balking on Gregory was probably the right thing to do. Sadly we cant get rid of zeke until after this season. I see 2023 being the year we round out the roster with FA and another year of the draft.

Looks like Joseph may be toast, but at least we found out at the right time. It allows us to possibly fill that hole in the draft and may help stop Jones from doing something dumb this year with our 2nd round pick like he usually does.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think it's way to early to give up on the 2022 season and thought of some master tanking plan is too far out there for me to buy into.

Sean Payton is not going to coach in Dallas. The amount of capital to attain his services will be exorbitant. The real killer of any potential deal will be his insistence to have final say on all football personnel decisions.

From my perspective, the Cowboys need to change their scheme on offense to be more of a running/short passing team and that starts with dumping some of those WR assets from a passing game that does not win in crunch time. Trading Cooper saved a lot of cap space and provided an opportunity to make another part of the roster better. I hope they don't go WR in the 1st round of the draft.

The OL was inconsistent with too many penalties in critical moments. They dumped the dude who was the biggest violator. I see OL being a possibility in the 1st round if the right guy is there and remaining DL is not at 1st round value.

Randy was essentially signed, but the sloppy legal team of the Cowboys had some really unrealistic language in their contract language. It seemed very much like Gregory waned to go to Denver and he did. The dude was not reliable. I see DL as the likely target in the 1st round of the draft.

Let's not forget how effective the running game was before Zeke hurt his knee. They were almost unstoppable. The Cowboys have an excellent 1-2 punch, but they need a third guy to fill the void if 1 or 2 goes down. A guy who will add versatility as a receiver out of the backfield.

Free agency is not over. There are some guys left that can be useful to plug into a rotation or position of need for a year.

One critical thing that needs to happen in Dallas is for Moore to be held in check with his playcalling. His situational football IQ is very low. McCarthy has to take more control over the offense in 2022.

Everything makes sense here. Fix the line and the offense should be one of the best again.

Has Moore reached his peak or can he adjust and be creative?

 

[CowboyRoy]

It's the only way this offseason makes sense.

He was so embarrassed with our playoff loss that he did ... absolutely nothing to make the team better.

There is also another angle--the Joneses are too busy quelling their many legal issues to fully focus on the football team. Of course, that's what happens when you insist on being owner and playing GM at the same time

YOu can honestly think that any of that actually makes sense?

 

[Flamma]

Are you saying that the Cowboys are tanking and so letting MM hang around for that?

If thats your angle its laughable. The Cowboys are continuing to improve and restructure the roster from past mistakes. Getting rid of the right people when they can and keeping the right players. Cant fault anything they have done so far. Heck even balking on Gregory was probably the right thing to do. Sadly we cant get rid of zeke until after this season. I see 2023 being the year we round out the roster with FA and another year of the draft.

Looks like Joseph may be toast, but at least we found out at the right time. It allows us to possibly fill that hole in the draft and may help stop Jones from doing something dumb this year with our 2nd round pick like he usually does.

Like you, I don't believe it, but I don't think it's laughable. Jerry can do whatever he wants, we don't know what that is. But the reason I don't believe it is because he's not doing anything unusual in the offseason to make me raise an eyebrow. This has been his approach since 2015 or '16. But even with the same approach, you're always going to face different challenges each year.

 

[Gaede]

YOu can honestly think that any of that actually makes sense?

An NFL owner recently tried to pay his coach to lose games. Yeah, I believe it.

 

[LittleD]

You have to sink into the quagmire before rising like a Phoenix. Jerry & Stephen don't buy players and championships like the Rams. They try and build a championship team from the ashes. They've been trying
that for over a decade but, it hasn't worked and the current team makeup is not working. Once more into the breach.

 

[Flamma]

It was clear that JJ was upset after the SF loss as he did not immediately give a vote of confidence to MM’s return. He talks up Quinn as a potential HC. The relationship between MM and the FO seems icy and tense now— a far cry from the sleepover pajama days of 2020.

Since the SF loss? JJ trades, restructures, and cuts bloated salary and unwanted players from the roster.

MM is 2 years into a 5 year deal. JJ is paying him whether he is HC or not. Do you bring in a new HC and pay two guys while you adjust your roster and try and solve your cap issues?

Or do you pay the current HC and saddle him with roster reforms that will lead to a justifiable firing after a mediocre year— while at the same time clearing cap and roster issues to set up your next HC in a decent position?

I think the FO is making some course corrections and are allowing McCarthy to “go down with the ship” in order to be in a better position in 2023 with either Quinn or Payton installed as HC.

This is the only strategy that makes any sense— considering the mood and moves made this offseason.

I am not saying I am in support of this strategy— just mulling over the current state of the franchise and the puzzling decisions of the FO. But— if you want out of some bad decisions you have made in terms of contracts, you are going to have to face the music at some point and eat a crap sandwich.

Best to eat those sandwiches in one bite rather than a nibble here or there. Is it possible that this strange offseason is evidence that the FO is allowing this season to tank in order get out from some bad moves and deals with their eyes on 2023?

I don't necessarily buy into this, but like I said before, I wouldn't rule it out. It's a theory based on observations. Let me give you another. One I don't even believe, but consider it possible.

Why does it appear Dallas is clearing cap space for nothing? Rollover to next year. Next year Diggs and Lamb come up for extension. The following year, Parsons. Now Jerry could stagger the first 2 since Lamb probably has a 5th year. But that won't make him happy.

 

[Aven8]

I think it's way to early to give up on the 2022 season and thought of some master tanking plan is too far out there for me to buy into.

Sean Payton is not going to coach in Dallas. The amount of capital to attain his services will be exorbitant. The real killer of any potential deal will be his insistence to have final say on all football personnel decisions.

From my perspective, the Cowboys need to change their scheme on offense to be more of a running/short passing team and that starts with dumping some of those WR assets from a passing game that does not win in crunch time. Trading Cooper saved a lot of cap space and provided an opportunity to make another part of the roster better. I hope they don't go WR in the 1st round of the draft.

The OL was inconsistent with too many penalties in critical moments. They dumped the dude who was the biggest violator. I see OL being a possibility in the 1st round if the right guy is there and remaining DL is not at 1st round value.

Randy was essentially signed, but the sloppy legal team of the Cowboys had some really unrealistic language in their contract language. It seemed very much like Gregory waned to go to Denver and he did. The dude was not reliable. I see DL as the likely target in the 1st round of the draft.

Let's not forget how effective the running game was before Zeke hurt his knee. They were almost unstoppable. The Cowboys have an excellent 1-2 punch, but they need a third guy to fill the void if 1 or 2 goes down. A guy who will add versatility as a receiver out of the backfield.

Free agency is not over. There are some guys left that can be useful to plug into a rotation or position of need for a year.

One critical thing that needs to happen in Dallas is for Moore to be held in check with his playcalling. His situational football IQ is very low. McCarthy has to take more control over the offense in 2022.

Spot on about Moore.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Like you, I don't believe it, but I don't think it's laughable. Jerry can do whatever he wants, we don't know what that is. But the reason I don't believe it is because he's not doing anything unusual in the offseason to make me raise an eyebrow. This has been his approach since 2015 or '16. But even with the same approach, you're always going to face different challenges each year.

Anyone that thinks Jerry doesnt want to win and win badly isnt paying attention. He just sucks at what he does. He is a fan more than he is a GM.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

The problem is that Jerry has too much pride to tank. Dallas hasn't been really, really bad in a while. Even in bad years it is in the 6 to 8 win realm. The only exception has been when the QB goes down for an extended period of time. I think the only way to tank is to go through a 2-3 win season where you dump any vet contract you can and draft and play as many rookies as you can. There are examples of teams with a 1-2 year turnaround...the Bengals being the most recent.

 

[CowboyRoy]

An NFL owner recently tried to pay his coach to lose games. Yeah, I believe it.

Coming off a 12-5 season and playoffs when you finally have a young up and coming defense and a top 10 QB in his prime?

Laughable.

I would tank too if it was my team and we sucked and I needed a new QB. Heck Mark Cuban has admitted he would tank on purpose. I have no problem with that. But if you think Jerry is doing it now, you aren't paying attention.

Jerry just sucks at being a GM. Simple as that. About 7 years ago he adopted Bill Bellichecks way of using FA. Only to sign bargain type low cost FA's and he has stuck to it. To a fault.

Jerry is constantly taking other peoples ideas and misusing them.

 

[Flamma]

Anyone that thinks Jerry doesnt want to win and win badly isnt paying attention. He just sucks at what he does. He is a fan more than he is a GM.

I think so too. His past dealings would point to that being correct. The major difference is that he no longer takes risks. People take that to mean he doesn't care. Just a different approach.

 

[HungryLion]

It was clear that JJ was upset after the SF loss as he did not immediately give a vote of confidence to MM’s return. He talks up Quinn as a potential HC. The relationship between MM and the FO seems icy and tense now— a far cry from the sleepover pajama days of 2020.

Since the SF loss? JJ trades, restructures, and cuts bloated salary and unwanted players from the roster.

MM is 2 years into a 5 year deal. JJ is paying him whether he is HC or not. Do you bring in a new HC and pay two guys while you adjust your roster and try and solve your cap issues?

Or do you pay the current HC and saddle him with roster reforms that will lead to a justifiable firing after a mediocre year— while at the same time clearing cap and roster issues to set up your next HC in a decent position?

I think the FO is making some course corrections and are allowing McCarthy to “go down with the ship” in order to be in a better position in 2023 with either Quinn or Payton installed as HC.

This is the only strategy that makes any sense— considering the mood and moves made this offseason.

I am not saying I am in support of this strategy— just mulling over the current state of the franchise and the puzzling decisions of the FO. But— if you want out of some bad decisions you have made in terms of contracts, you are going to have to face the music at some point and eat a crap sandwich.

Best to eat those sandwiches in one bite rather than a nibble here or there. Is it possible that this strange offseason is evidence that the FO is allowing this season to tank in order get out from some bad moves and deals with their eyes on 2023?

it absolutely is a “soft” tank.

Is there anything the cowboys done, that shows they are trying to win a championship this season?


Anything?

Every move says the exact opposite actually.


They cut salaries and players for the future. But trying to win anything this year? Nah.