News: Jerry on the Cowboys value: "more than $10 billion" but he will never ever sell

[Hawkeye0202]

Like I said the way you stared it came off as he deserved as much credit as Jimmy and why he was inducted. It wasn’t clear if you grasped the difference . The Contributor designation is not specifically an induction which is football related like a GM, HC or player.

Contributors are usually owners, front office personnel and commissioners. While they may be contributing to the franchise or leagues success they aren’t directly credited for the success of a football team on the field in most cases.

Sure about that? Look at this list of contributors


https://www.profootballhof.com/news/2018/08/the-road-to-canton-contributors/

 

[LACowboysFan1]

For me, it's real simple as stated before.......without Jerry, Jimmy never coaches the Dallas Cowboys and without Jimmy, Jerry probably still looking for a Super Bowl. This is why I've said, they both needed each other........

It worked great until Jerry's ego blew it apart. No doubt Jimmy could have stayed, but then he never stayed long at any one place so maybe he would have left in a year or two anyway...

 

[Diehardblues]

For me, it's real simple as stated before.......without Jerry, Jimmy never coaches the Dallas Cowboys and without Jimmy, Jerry probably still looking for a Super Bowl. This is why I've said, they both needed each other........

It doesn’t matter how you interpret it or what you believe. But at least you appear to understand the designation better with the contributor as owner not GM than you initially presented regardless if you’re still misrepresenting as such.

We all know who hired Jimmy but we also know who built those championship teams and why one was inducted as a HC and the other as a contributor.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

It doesn’t matter how you interpret it or what you believe. But at least you appear to understand the designation better with the contributor as owner not GM than you initially presented regardless if you’re still misrepresenting as such.

We all know who hired Jimmy but we also know who built those championship teams and why one was inducted as a HC and the other as a contributor.

LOL....I'm done

 

[Diehardblues]

Sure about that? Look at this list of contributors


https://www.profootballhof.com/news/2018/08/the-road-to-canton-contributors/

Yes, I’m absolutely sure what the intention was of his induction. And his contributions were worthy of induction.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Yes, I’m absolutely sure what the intention was of his induction. And his contributions were worthy of induction.

Did you not say contributors ARE NOT football related?????

 

[Diehardblues]

Did you not say contributors ARE NOT football related?????

No, I said Jethro’s induction wasn’t football related. Meaning not his football expertise.

In a later post I said most contributor inductions were for owners, front office and commissioners.

Front office would include GM’s and Personnel Directors like Tex and Gil which were football related.

Jethro’s induction are generally credited to his brilliance in revolutionary revenue streams not just his hiring of Jimmy which of course that success with Jimmy certainly helped his induction.

 

[jazzcat22]

It worked great until Jerry's ego blew it apart. No doubt Jimmy could have stayed, but then he never stayed long at any one place so maybe he would have left in a year or two anyway...

He would have, he wanted the Miami Dolphins job. Then Don Shula signed a contract extension. So Jimmy took the Cowboys job. His intentions were to always return to Florida in about 5 brae, or whenever it worked out.
Then The Jaguars were started, so he wanted to build a team from the start. He orchestrated his firing in a way. Probably not a full fledge pan the way it happened, but he wanted out.

I lived in South Florida at the time, so all of this floated around for years he wanted to coach the Dolphins after Shula.

 

[jazzcat22]

The MYTH about Jerry wanting to win a SB without Jimmy is laughable. Because he simply WANTS to won a SB regardless who is coaching. Just as the other 31 teams owners.

 

[Diehardblues]

The MYTH about Jerry wanting to win a SB without Jimmy is laughable. Because he simply WANTS to won a SB regardless who is coaching. Just as the other 31 teams owners.

Of course he wants to win badly but not bad enough to get out of the way like most of the other owners do . That’s the difference.

He actually either thinks no one can run Cowboys Football better or is too frikin selfish or arrogant even at age 80 to hire someone else.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

No, I said Jethro’s induction wasn’t football related.

In a later post I said most contributor inductions were for owners, front office and commissioners.

Front office would include GM’s and Personnel Directors like Tex and Gil which were football related.

Jethro’s induction are generally credited to his brilliance in revolutionary revenue streams not just his hiring of Jimmy which of course that success with Jimmy certainly helped his induction.

Jerry's leadership IS football related...it's like you're trying to separate the Super Bowls under his leadership from his success which contributed to HOF. I'm not sure you can do that.......

 

[Diehardblues]

He would have, he wanted the Miami Dolphins job. Then Don Shula signed a contract extension. So Jimmy took the Cowboys job. His intentions were to always return to Florida in about 5 brae, or whenever it worked out.
Then The Jaguars were started, so he wanted to build a team from the start. He orchestrated his firing in a way. Probably not a full fledge pan the way it happened, but he wanted out.

I lived in South Florida at the time, so all of this floated around for years he wanted to coach the Dolphins after Shula.

We all suspected Jimmy with his history wasn’t a long time deal. But there wasn’t any indication until the altercation he was ready to walk away after winning back to back championships.

 

[jazzcat22]

Of course he wants to win badly but not bad enough to get out of the way like most of the other owners do . That’s the difference.

He actually either thinks no one can run Cowboys Football better or is too frikin selfish or arrogant even at age 80 to hire someone else.

He definitely needs to step aside, as well, as Stephen needs to step back also. But I do not think Jerry is as involved at all the player decisions as fans believe. Not as much now anyway.

 

[Diehardblues]

Jerry's leadership IS football related...it's like you're trying to separate the Super Bowls under his leadership from his success which contributed to HOF. I'm not sure you can do that.......

I understand . And I agree to the point we can separate his induction was more ownership than football related.

The fact he won the Super Bowls certainly embolden his induction as a contributor. But there is a fine line in how we describe his credit. It’s the basis into why he parted ways with Jimmy. Jethro wanted more credit for football success beyond just hiring the right guy.

 

[Diehardblues]

He definitely needs to step aside, as well, as Stephen needs to step back also. But I do not think Jerry is as involved at all the player decisions as fans believe. Not as much now anyway.

It doesn’t matter what we believe. He’s the GM. And his role has always been as part time GM. He’s still all in and the fact he wants that credit as such is still undermining the culture and not leading to more success on the field. And why he must still be held accountable as such.

 

[AyeAtey]

But still dumpster dives.

 

[Diehardblues]

It worked great until Jerry's ego blew it apart. No doubt Jimmy could have stayed, but then he never stayed long at any one place so maybe he would have left in a year or two anyway...

Yep

No doubt but he gave no indication he was ready to leave at that time knowing that team had potential of winning a couple more. Not until Jethro begun his whining.

 

[CouchCoach]

Sure about that? Look at this list of contributors


https://www.profootballhof.com/news/2018/08/the-road-to-canton-contributors/

That list makes his case.

Booger got in because of the revenue impact he had on the league, not the effect on the game.

I think it Is stupid to even have that category, should be players only. I wouldn’t even have coaches in with players.

Think anyone journeys to Canton to see a bust of Booger?

 

[CouchCoach]

It worked great until Jerry's ego blew it apart. No doubt Jimmy could have stayed, but then he never stayed long at any one place so maybe he would have left in a year or two anyway...

Johnson already had one foot out the door and had talked to JAX.

Booger was like the guy that realizes his wife is leaving him and decides to divorce her to save face.

His ego was all about the opportunity he’d given Johnson and Johnson’s ego was about how he’d actually saved Booger from having to sell the team.

Anyone who doubts Johnson was the one responsible for getting him in the black just needs to look at Booger’s track record without Johnson.

 

[Bobhaze]

really??

EVERY OWNER BUYS A TEAM FOR INVESTSMENTS AND TAX SHELTERS IE MONEY

ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY.. they didn't become billionaires to lose money and of you think the Jonses dont care about winning you are clueless..they may make few mistakes and poor decisions but they aren't alone just because they structured the power pyramid differently.

if it was all about money none of the big name players would have got 2nd contracts i can list 10 teams whove the last decade who do this ie like the jets etc just keep trading great payers and redrafting rinse repeat..show me ever where the Jines family got cheap .you say FA but they see that as high risk low reward as many high priced week 1 Fas DO NOT live up to their contracts. Sure as a fan it would be more exciting to have them play poker and go all in with some moves but that doesn't make them cheap.. they spend and spend big when they feel its necessary..
being careful when and where they spend is not cheapo its business..

there's a cap and they have decided how to approach it but in no way is that cheap. Boring, maybe, low risk moves but not all about money.

Owning an NFL franchise is one of the lowest risk financial investments out there. Even the Jags owner is making big money now. But…Winning championships is the best and fastest way to make money. In fact one reason this franchise is making so much money is it’s living off its past glory.