Gregory for 15 million or Williams and Fowler for 5 Million?

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Yes, Robert Quinn is terrible against the run.


I’ll take 18 sacks and hope someone like Quinn can get help on the edge for the run game. Could be the Bears LBers were subpar in that area of support . Safeties etc. When a guy is giving you 18 sacks yes he can play on my team .
 

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I’ll put it this way . How good is Gregory against the run if we’re going in that direction of conversation . The 49ers ran a bus stop through his side of the field .
 

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Anyone still complaining about losing Gregory? You could probably argue that we actually got Williams, Fowler, Armstrong, Kearse for the price of Gregory.

Its not even close for me.
I'll take the two to accumulate more than 6 sacks. Denver can have the pot smoking, over inflated bum. Hell, if it weren't for Parsons going off last year Greogory would of been run out of town for his measly 6 sacks.................
 

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I would agree that Gregory was a legitimate edge rusher. FOR 1 season ONLY. I also agree he hits 10 sacks. But probably not much more then that.

Armstrong had 5 sacks I believe. That being said, I have no problem taking a step back for a year, or half a year at the position. Too many fans are over worried about immediate returns. Its the long game that matters.
That appears to be their plan. Think many have to temper their expectations with Sam Williams, as he is more of a developmental player and he is going to need some time. Fowler/Armstrong will be the bridge until he becomes the full time starter probably next yr.
 

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Anyone still complaining about losing Gregory? You could probably argue that we actually got Williams, Fowler, Armstrong, Kearse for the price of Gregory.

Its not even close for me.
well, after the fact is easy to make assessment...fowler ain't anything special and at a point in his career he is going to continue to bounce around. so before the draft I say Gregory. even with the money. subsequently we got williams, but we had no idea. so its like you had a crystal ball. we have to wait and see the results.
 

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Schulz benefitted from being surrounded by wr talent and being the 4th - 5th option. We could get that out of any serviceable TE w/out paying market rate.

Randy was a truly disruptive (last year) which allowed for our defense to do some special things
Emmit benefitted from being surrounded by talent, so you're saying Emmit wasn't all that good?
 

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I actually forgot that Tunsil was in the same draft. Buckner and Ramsey were there for the taking as well
Taking CB's that high is generally about as bad as taking RB's that high.
 

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the important thing is that jerry and SJ WANTED to keep and pay RG.
So they chose RG over the other guys, but then Randy went with denver offer, so then jones boys had to take the other guys on the rebound.

I think they lucked out that randy chose denver.
 

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Anyone still complaining about losing Gregory? You could probably argue that we actually got Williams, Fowler, Armstrong, Kearse for the price of Gregory.

Its not even close for me.
Nope, as talented as he was, he thought the flags were funny. It cost us.

That dude is not worth it in the end.
 

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I don’t believe resigning Gregory and drafting Williams were mutually exclusive. Bringing in Fowler doesn’t happen though
 

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Emmit benefitted from being surrounded by talent, so you're saying Emmit wasn't all that good?


I know that’s a ridiculous argument . Dak needs weapons and Schultz is one of his top targets especially since off season house cleaning . Much rather have him then Gregory .
 

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Emmit benefitted from being surrounded by talent, so you're saying Emmit wasn't all that good?

do you think Schultz is a first ballot hall of famer? stop asking stupid questions
 

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Anyone still complaining about losing Gregory? You could probably argue that we actually got Williams, Fowler, Armstrong, Kearse for the price of Gregory.

Its not even close for me.

We'll see how it works out but it is not an either or situation. They could have signed Gregory for $14 million and not signed Fowler (because they wouldn't have needed him). They have the CAP room to sign Gregory now.

I think Randy is a little underrated. $14 million is not a lot of money for him. Honestly, I thought he would get $16 million to $18 million as a free agent. Look at what players are signing for these days. Gregory is the 22nd highest paid DE in the league.
 

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That appears to be their plan. Think many have to temper their expectations with Sam Williams, as he is more of a developmental player and he is going to need some time. Fowler/Armstrong will be the bridge until he becomes the full time starter probably next yr.

I bet Williams can make some noise this year. Over/under 5 sacks
 

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well, after the fact is easy to make assessment...fowler ain't anything special and at a point in his career he is going to continue to bounce around. so before the draft I say Gregory. even with the money. subsequently we got williams, but we had no idea. so its like you had a crystal ball. we have to wait and see the results.

Nothing to do with a crystal ball. Its a simple straight up question. But waiting till after the draft to cry about the roster was one reason guys like me were telling the cry babies to just wait and see.
 

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We'll see how it works out but it is not an either or situation. They could have signed Gregory for $14 million and not signed Fowler (because they wouldn't have needed him). They have the CAP room to sign Gregory now.

I think Randy is a little underrated. $14 million is not a lot of money for him. Honestly, I thought he would get $16 million to $18 million as a free agent. Look at what players are signing for these days. Gregory is the 22nd highest paid DE in the league.

But the point is wouldnt you rather have Williams and Fowler and another 10 million in cap? Which essentially netted us Shultz.
 

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Anyone still complaining about losing Gregory? You could probably argue that we actually got Williams, Fowler, Armstrong, Kearse for the price of Gregory.

Its not even close for me.

I’m fine with ditching Gregory. The way he walked out the negotiation speaks volumes. He was always a mid level player with issues IMO…. And he was hardly available and struggled with discipline/penalties to boot.
 

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When healthy Tank gives 100 percent great pressure does well against the run with Gregory you waited for the other shoe to drop that he’s not available for a particular game or games.

Hopefully Williams Parsons Diggs OSA Gallimore Ridgeway Cox etc are the young cap friendly players to get Dallas to the next level along with vets Kearse Wilson Hooker & Tank .
 
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