Serious Question: Is Dak better now than Romo in his prime?

[GINeric]

I don;t think this kind of thing belongs in this community. You should probably take some time off and cool down.

Speaking truth doesn't make one hot, therefore there's no reason to cool down. Its amazing how certain things can be said here but it receives zero responses from you, but as soon as i identify BS here, you speak up. Lol!!! Hilarious....

You're defending the same bum who considered Dak a 4 tier bum, but couldn't explain how a 4 tier bum could put up numbers that many quarterbacks in a 100 year history couldn't.

When you can't explain disrespect to a player with actual facts to back it up, then 9 times out of 10, we all know certain dislikes for certain players has nothing to do with production on the field. That particular loser didn't even deny it.

So miss me with that one sided ****. Im going to call out BS when i see it, apparently thats a huge problem in our society today.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Speaking truth doesn't make one hot, therefore there's no reason to cool down. Its amazing how certain things can be said here but it receives zero responses from you, but as soon as i identify BS here, you speak up. Lol!!! Hilarious....

You're defending the same bum who considered Dak a 4 tier bum, but couldn't explain how a 4 tier bum could put up numbers that many quarterbacks in a 100 year history couldn't.

When you can't explain disrespect to a player with actual facts to back it up, then 9 times out of 10, we all know certain dislikes for certain players has nothing to do with production on the field. That particular loser didn't even deny it.

So miss me with that one sided ****. Im going to call out BS when i see it, apparently thats a huge problem in our society today.

You keep moving the bar. You keep bringing up other stuff just to fight and argue.

Racial accusations are a very serious matter and should not be given nor taken lightly.

Can we get back to the point of you WRONGLY saying romo was a choker? The precious stats say otherwise. I mean you like stats right? Only when it's convenient for you?

 

[GINeric]

Okay so you aren't going to address the stat that proves you wrong? I suppose I don;t blame you...I mean *I* would own up to being wrong...but if ya don;t wanna ya don't wanna.

When did I never give Dak slack for bad D? Man our run defense SUUUU....UUUCKS! But that wasn't the point of my post. The point was to prove you wrong. Which I obviously did by your response.

You are calling other people "dumb" but you don;t know why Dak started his rookie year? Do you think if the starting QB was injured...Tony would have started? DERP.....double derp. Sheesh. You certainly can;t be that dumb. Just desperate, I'd say.

And your final question..."why wasn't Romo drafted". Not sure....maybe too small of college. But you see Gin...that's the point. Going undrafted a walk on!...and becoming one of the best QB's of his time among some very good and HoF QB's...amazing achievement....and you don't give him credit.

Here's the deal..I have said it before (old name? Cowboy Lover). I don't hate Dak. I think he did remarkable in 2016. I think injuries, and some innate flaws have kept him from progressing. I think he's good enough to win...like so many average QB's have done. I support him and cheer him on. I also assess him like i do any other player...regardless of skin color (as does Mountaineer) . So don't make up lies to make yourself feel better.

You're acting like i said Romo was a bum or something. Romo was a DAMN GOOD quarterback in whom i loved while he was playing. But a young player named Dak came along and took his spot, period!!! There's no lie in that.... thats what happened!!!

So stop all that weak *** whining and crying about all that other worthless **** you're talking. Thats for the weak, so miss me with that. Dak took Romo's job, point blank period. Romo had a solid, entertaining career, but now its Dak's time.

If Dak don't improve, he'll be replaced by the next.

 

[GINeric]

You keep moving the bar. You keep bringing up other stuff just to fight and argue.

Racial accusations are a very serious matter and should not be given nor taken lightly.

Can we get back to the point of you WRONGLY saying romo was a choker? The precious stats say otherwise. I mean you like stats right? Only when it's convenient for you?

Whatever you say bro. Ive WATCHED the big moments Romo choked away, so enjoy your day and try to convince someone else that Romo was clutch.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Speaking truth doesn't make one hot, therefore there's no reason to cool down. Its amazing how certain things can be said here but it receives zero responses from you, but as soon as i identify BS here, you speak up. Lol!!! Hilarious....

You're defending the same bum who considered Dak a 4 tier bum, but couldn't explain how a 4 tier bum could put up numbers that many quarterbacks in a 100 year history couldn't.

When you can't explain disrespect to a player with actual facts to back it up, then 9 times out of 10, we all know certain dislikes for certain players has nothing to do with production on the field. That particular loser didn't even deny it.

So miss me with that one sided ****. Im going to call out BS when i see it, apparently thats a huge problem in our society today.

You started the "skin color" BS in a thread where I said Mahomes was better than Dak .....

Yeah.... That makes the PERFECT sense.

Also, as stated before, I have explained the tier 4 thing for you multiple times, but you are still the only person that literally cannot understand it. Here I'll do it again:

Tier 1 - Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady ... Champions still playing at MVP levels
Tier 2 - Allen, Burrows, Herbert, Stafford .... Guys that are on the cusp, guys that EVERYONE can see has the skills needed.
Tier 3 - Carr, Wilson, Jackson ... These guys aren't tier 2 level, but if the right pieces are around them they can lead you to success.
Tief 4 - Dak, Murray, Cousins, Tannehill, Jimmy G, Goff, Jones .... Guys that need a lot around them going perfect to lead to success, aren't capable of carrying the team and making guys better.
Tier 5 - Everyone else

This is MY RANKINGS. I do not care about yours, but I understand that you seem to be obsessed with my personal rankings. So there, for the last time, I don't care if you like it, agree with it, or understand it. I am posting it AGAIN to show that it's not that complicated to understand. If you don't still don't get it then it's a YOU problem, not a ME problem.

 

[Mr_437]

No Dak isn't better than Romo, but I ain't championing either one.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You're acting like i said Romo was a bum or something. Romo was a DAMN GOOD quarterback in whom i loved while he was playing. But a young player named Dak came along and took his spot, period!!! There's no lie in that.... thats what happened!!!

So stop all that weak *** whining and crying about all that other worthless **** you're talking. Thats for the weak, so miss me with that. Dak took Romo's job, point blank period. Romo had a solid, entertaining career, but now its Dak's time.

If Dak don't improve, he'll be replaced by the next.

You once again keep moving the bar...just to have something to fight about. You keep making it about something else.

Yes...it's is Dak's time now. That's the first reasonable thing you have said this whole time.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Whatever you say bro. Ive WATCHED the big moments Romo choked away, so enjoy your day and try to convince someone else that Romo was clutch.

So...NOW you use the eye test when the stats say otherwise. "Bro"....that ain't right. You running around beating people over the head with stats...now ignore a crucial one.

 

[GINeric]

You started the "skin color" BS in a thread where I said Mahomes was better than Dak .....

Yeah.... That makes the PERFECT sense.

Also, as stated before, I have explained the tier 4 thing for you multiple times, but you are still the only person that literally cannot understand it. Here I'll do it again:

Tier 1 - Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady ... Champions still playing at MVP levels
Tier 2 - Allen, Burrows, Herbert, Stafford .... Guys that are on the cusp, guys that EVERYONE can see has the skills needed.
Tier 3 - Carr, Wilson, Jackson ... These guys aren't tier 2 level, but if the right pieces are around them they can lead you to success.
Tief 4 - Dak, Murray, Cousins, Tannehill, Jimmy G, Goff, Jones .... Guys that need a lot around them going perfect to lead to success, aren't capable of carrying the team and making guys better.
Tier 5 - Everyone else

This is MY RANKINGS. I do not care about yours, but I understand that you seem to be obsessed with my personal rankings. So there, for the last time, I don't care if you like it, agree with it, or understand it. I am posting it AGAIN to show that it's not that complicated to understand. If you don't still don't get it then it's a YOU problem, not a ME problem.

You're entitled to your ranking, thats fine.

But when i posted Dak's numbers and asked how was a tier 4 bum able to do things that thousands of quarterbacks in 100 years of football couldn't do, your coward *** ignored that question for months.

Then you brought up playoff wins....

I THEN brought it to your attention that Dak had the same amount of playoff wins in six seasons as Brees and Peyton Manning... you didn't consider them tier 4 bums at that point in their careers, but Dak is mysteriously held to a higher standard after being drafted LOWER than BOTH of those guys....

But wait!!! It gets better!!!

You put Matt Stafford in tier 2.... a quarterback who won his first game WELL after 5 or 6 seasons, but Dak is a tier 4 bum??? Please let the audience know how the others weren't tier 4 bums with the same amount of playoff success in the same time frame.... especially a guy like Stafford who had to get with a superbowl built team on both sides of the ball. He's tier 2 now???

This **** is too easy....

 

[Section446]

Dak isn't in the same league as Romo was. Romo was a franchise QB that never got it done on the big stage... Dak is an average QB that doesn't get it done on any stage.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Dak has improved and what not but I think Romo was greater with less

Romo understood the game and where his players were at infinitely better than Dak. Was a better passer and probably more athletic too though not nearly as strong, obviously. As mentioned before, Romo was very very good but not great,,, plenty good enough to contend though. This team will need a dominant defense before it can contend with Dak.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

You're entitled to your ranking, thats fine.

But when i posted Dak's numbers and asked how was a tier 4 bum able to do things that thousands of quarterbacks in 100 years of football couldn't do, your coward *** ignored that question for months.

Then you brought up playoff wins....

I THEN brought it to your attention that Dak had the same amount of playoff wins in six seasons as Brees and Peyton Manning... you didn't consider them tier 4 bums at that point in their careers, but Dak is mysteriously held to a higher standard after being drafted LOWER than BOTH of those guys....

But wait!!! It gets better!!!

You put Matt Stafford in tier 2.... a quarterback who won his first game WELL after 5 or 6 seasons, but Dak is a tier 4 bum??? Please let the audience know how the others weren't tier 4 bums with the same amount of playoff success in the same time frame.... especially a guy like Stafford who had to get with a superbowl built team on both sides of the ball. He's tier 2 now???

This **** is too easy....

You really should not take my rankings as seriously as you do.

They mean nothing.

 

[CouchCoach]

Romo was more of a playmaker and improv QB than Prescott is. Prescott is more from the play executor mold except when he can use his legs, then he can improvise better.

Prescott is more of a ball protector and like his favorite QB, Romo was a risk taker.

I would not mind Prescott taking a few more picks not to be so safe because that is what separates the great QB's.

Stafford didn't change, didn't become some different QB. He got surrounded by a better team that could overcome his failed risks. He also got a WR corps that he knew would fight for the ball.

Going to get really interesting when it gets real and Prescott has to trust any receiver other than Lamb and Schultz until Gallup can play.

 

[Ken]

No way Dak would survive in that Norv Turner timing based offense that relied on the QB to put the ball in the air before the receiver made a break and at a particular place. Aikman was highly accurate. Romo arguably just as highly accurate, but if not, slightly less than Aikman. Dak’s accuracy is not a strength.

You can say he's better without the "Dak took his job" jabs you throw in there. We know how that went down. He didn't "take his job" in the way you're implying. Romo got injured and we rightfully stuck with the hot hand and Romo retired. His body failed him.

I see the jabs you throw towards a guy you claim to still be a big fan of.

He took his job...i don't know any other way yo exain it. If Dak wasn't playing at a historically high level for a rookie, Romo gets the job back.

Yes he got injured, like Bledsoe got injured and Brady took his job.

Not understanding why people are upset with that.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

He took his job...i don't know any other way yo exain it. If Dak wasn't playing at a historically high level for a rookie, Romo gets the job back.

Yes he got injured, like Bledsoe got injured and Brady took his job.

Not understanding why people are upset with that.

Nobody's upset.

We just see through it.

 

[charron]

They both have or had flaws that held them back. They are 2 completely different styles of QB. Both over paid and their best teams were when they were on cheap contracts....coincidence?

 

[G2]

Romo was more of a playmaker and improv QB than Prescott is. Prescott is more from the play executor mold except when he can use his legs, then he can improvise better.

Prescott is more of a ball protector and like his favorite QB, Romo was a risk taker.

I would not mind Prescott taking a few more picks not to be so safe because that is what separates the great QB's.

Stafford didn't change, didn't become some different QB. He got surrounded by a better team that could overcome his failed risks. He also got a WR corps that he knew would fight for the ball.

Going to get really interesting when it gets real and Prescott has to trust any receiver other than Lamb and Schultz until Gallup can play.

Underrated post CC.

 

[noshame]

I'll trade you both for one Aikman?

 

[CouchCoach]

They both have or had flaws that held them back. They are 2 completely different styles of QB. Both over paid and their best teams were when they were on cheap contracts....coincidence?

They were both paid the going rate for keeping the QB, they are/were not overpaid.

Any team that cannot improve its QB situation pays what the market rate is for a franchise QB or they take a chance on a different one.

In my opinion, just a mid level QB makes a better team because with a lower level one, there is little chance. McMahon, Dilfer, Johnson, E. Manning and Flacco were mid level but they played well enough to win it all for their teams. What would have happened if those teams decided to take the risk to upgrade?

Also imo, almost every player in the NFL, and you can add MLB. NBA and NHL, is over paid but it is what it is. Is Aaron Rodgers worth 4X what Montana got paid? 2.5 what P. Manning got paid?

The money keeps growing but the sports are not improving.

 

[SlammedZero]

Well, I am 17 pages late to the party, but Romo was absolutely better than Dak. The sad thing too is that Romo was really starting to come into his own, but by that time, his body was just giving up on him.

I can tell you this, not that it means anything to anybody, but I feel/felt like this about each QB:

4th Qtr. Cowboys are down and they get one last drive to either tie or win the game:

Romo at QB: "He has got this. Can't wait to see this drive!"

Dak at QB "Man, I hope he can do it"

Romo was way more of a gunslinger though, which could result in an untimely INT, but that was just the price in the way he played. Dak may not throw the picks, but he has a greater chance of stalling out the offense. The price in the way he plays.