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[Hennessy_King]

Joe Burrow - Career Completion % - 68%
Joe Burrow - Career YPA - 7.9
Joe Burrow - EPA last year - +190

Dak - Career Completion % - 66%
Dak - 7.6
Dak - EPA last year +131

What stats are you looking at to say Dak is better than Burrow?

How about last year. Since burrow has only really played 1 season.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Substitute Romo for Dak in your thread and we've seen this same phenomenon for years. Cowboy fans are more nonsensical regarding their own players than opponent fans are. Both Dak and Romo garner a ton more respect from outsiders that our own in-house extremists.

And the worst ones are the Cowboys fans who swear "I was always a big supporter of (fill in the blank)"......BUT.....and then go on to prove their insincerity with multiple paragraphs of "but he's a choker, sucks, etc" garbage.

Absolutely not lol. Romo is a god to cowboys fans while other fans never thought romo was anything but above average and never top 10. Living in the northeast i deal with a lot more non cowboys fans than texas folk

 

[GINeric]

Substitute Romo for Dak in your thread and we've seen this same phenomenon for years. Cowboy fans are more nonsensical regarding their own players than opponent fans are. Both Dak and Romo garner a ton more respect from outsiders that our own in-house extremists.

And the worst ones are the Cowboys fans who swear "I was always a big supporter of (fill in the blank)"......BUT.....and then go on to prove their insincerity with multiple paragraphs of "but he's a choker, sucks, etc" garbage.

There are Hall of Fam coaches, players, and GMs that have given Romo and Dak very good praise for what they're able to do. Then you look at the stats to back up what HOFers see but you have some of the dumbest "hometeam" fans who'll tell you to ignore HOFers and actual stats....

These "Cowboys fans" that say this type of **** never played anything more than pop warner football and occasional games on Madden. Imagine people thinking they know football better than the people paid to play, coach, and draft at the highest level of football that there is.

Its one dumb idiot here who said Dak is a tier 4 bum at quarterback.... but the same coward that said this couldn't explain how Dak put up record numbers in his first 4 and 5 years. He just ignore the question without answering it.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Absolutely not lol. Romo is a god to cowboys fans while other fans never thought romo was anything but above average and never top 10. Living in the northeast i deal with a lot more non cowboys fans than texas folk

"God"...lol. You've lost your mind about Romo. You don't have to hate Romo to protect Dak.

You could dial it down a notch. You could admit Romo was good enough for us to win. You could admit he made WR's better. WHo went to different temas and met or excelled production? Miles? Robinson? LOL.

HoF might be a stretch...I admit. But have you seen who they are letting in these days?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

How about last year. Since burrow has only really played 1 season.

Last year? It's even further apart than the career numbers.

Dak completion % - 69
Dak YPA - 7.5
Dak EPA - +131

Burrow completion % - 70
Burrow YPA - 9
Burrow EPA - +190

 

[phildadon86]

Herbert threw 38 TDs last season in year 2.

That would be the Cowboys franchise record.

Thats why I am trying to figure this out

 

[phildadon86]

Justin Herbert didn't start for one week in his rookie season. He started the second week and kept his starting job since.

Fair enough. He didnt start. That all i said lol. And if Tyrod doesnt go down. He would have played even less

 

[phildadon86]

Last year. Why would we talk in hypotheticals? Reread my last statement you quoted and get back to me

Last year I still would have taken Herbert. 38 tds

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Thats why I am trying to figure this out

I have no clue.

There's literally nobody, not even Jerry himself, that would take Dak over Burrow or Herbert.

I mean, even the stats he says you need to look at show Burrow is easily better (I posted them), so who knows? It's just another case of being star blind. If Herbert or Burrow was a Cowboys there is not a soul on the sub that would say they'd take Dak over them.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Last year I still would have taken Herbert. 38 tds

Youll take 1 more td and 5 more ints??

 

[Hennessy_King]

I have no clue.

There's literally nobody, not even Jerry himself, that would take Dak over Burrow or Herbert.

I mean, even the stats he says you need to look at show Burrow is easily better (I posted them), so who knows? It's just another case of being star blind. If Herbert or Burrow was a Cowboys there is not a soul on the sub that would say they'd take Dak over them.

If this year was your only year to win as many games as possible. Dak would be chosen over a number of younger qbs. Just like dak wasnt a better qb in 2016 than Romo. But dak played because they were investing in the future after romo missed half a season.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

If this year was your only year to win as many games as possible. Dak would be chosen over a number of younger qbs. Just like dak wasnt a better qb in 2016 than Romo. But dak played because they were investing in the future after romo missed half a season.

I just showed you, with your own selected stats, that Burrow is easily better.

I'll take the QB that led his team to the Super Bowl in his first full season, thanks though!

 

[phildadon86]

Youll take 1 more td and 5 more ints??

Yup. For herberts talent. Absolutely.

However. None of this matters. The problem isnt on the field. Its above it.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Last year? It's even further apart than the career numbers.

Dak completion % - 69
Dak YPA - 7.5
Dak EPA - +131

Burrow completion % - 70
Burrow YPA - 9
Burrow EPA - +190

Yes sir burrow balled last year. But had a higher int % of 2.7% compared to daks 1.7%.

Here go take a look at football outsiders
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/qb/2021

 

[Hennessy_King]

Yup. For herberts talent. Absolutely.

However. None of this matters. The problem isnt on the field. Its above it.

Lol makes no sense ull take 7 more points over having an extra 5 possessions? My goodness lol. We not talking about herberts future we are talking about his ability immediately.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Yes sir burrow balled last year. But had a higher int % of 2.7% compared to daks 1.7%.

Here go take a look at football outsiders
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/qb/2021

I only went with the stats that you said we should use.

Let's not change the goal post now.

 

[Hennessy_King]

I just showed you, with your own selected stats, that Burrow is easily better.

I'll take the QB that led his team to the Super Bowl in his first full season, thanks though!

If it makes you feel better i would too.

 

[Hennessy_King]

I only went with the stats that you said we should use.

Let's not change the goal post now.

I never said dak was better than burrow. Hes better than herbert tho. Dak is in the 7-9 range.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I never said dak was better than burrow. Hes better than herbert tho.

Herbert would be the Cowboys all time leader in Passing TDs and Yards for a single season already if he was a Cowboy.

You're entitled to your opinion on this, but nobody outside of Cowboys fans would back you up on it.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Herbert would be the Cowboys all time leader in Passing TDs and Yards for a single season already if he was a Cowboy.

You're entitled to your opinion on this, but nobody outside of Cowboys fans would back you up on it.

I barely talk to cowboys fans lol. I live in jersey. I never said dak was elite. Hes capable but i personally dont think he will consistently be in that top 5 convo.