Video: Anthony Dorsett Jr. goes in on Joneses on lack of respect to Tony Dorsett

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IF 88 isnt protected you have no argument remember Antonio Bryant got 88, well its just the way the NFL is not enough numbers to protect many.
 

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My solution to the numbers controversy: Use small letters to the numbers so ... 12 is retired but 12a wouldn't be. 88 would be retired but not 88a and then after all the a's are gone, go to 12b (small as in at the corner of the "2" enough to see but not intrusive."
 

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I do not think numbers should ever be retired.

I do fully support a "not available for a set amount of time" period though for star players such as 5-10 years depending on the player's history in the franchise.

I mean do fans really care if a player wears #8, #22 or #88 now? It has been so long, I just do not see it being disrespectful.

Beyond that though, I see no reason for retiring or even protecting player numbers.

You can still feature player names and numbers on banners if you want, just do not refer to them as "retired numbers" and instead call them "Team of Fame" for example.
 

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I do not think numbers should ever be retired.

I do fully support a "not available for a set amount of time" period though for star players such as 5-10 years depending on the player's history in the franchise.

I mean do fans really care if a player wears #8, #22 or #88 now? It has been so long, I just do not see it being disrespectful.

Beyond that though, I see no reason to retiring or even protecting player numbers.

You can still feature player names and numbers on banners if you want, just do not refer to them as "retired numbers" and instead call them "Team of Fame" for example.
Spot on @Reality !
 

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I agree with him. At least give #33 to a RB. Current Cowboys' player who's #33 is a LB - Damone Clark
The problem is that position-based number ranges are being slowly fazed out so it will become less common to see running backs choosing 20s and 30s, receivers choosing 80s, etc.

As a fan I like seeing a different position where the numbers of star players from the past.

I would rather see a defensive back wearing #22, a kicker wearing #8 or #12 or a lineman wearing #82 rather than watching a same-position player perform badly wearing those numbers.
 

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I do not think numbers should ever be retired.

I do fully support a "not available for a set amount of time" period though for star players such as 5-10 years depending on the player's history in the franchise.

I mean do fans really care if a player wears #8, #22 or #88 now? It has been so long, I just do not see it being disrespectful.

Beyond that though, I see no reason for retiring or even protecting player numbers.

You can still feature player names and numbers on banners if you want, just do not refer to them as "retired numbers" and instead call them "Team of Fame" for example.

I agree, retiring numbers are pointless.
 

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I agree with him. At least give #33 to a RB. Current Cowboys' player who's #33 is a LB - Damone Clark
new era numbers are now crazy and hard to tell whose who..

no at least nothing, this is the way it is..i get its his dad but only so many numbers to go around and given the strs picks theirs first the leftovers like say a 33 goes to whomever wants it or picks last,, this generation doesn't remember TD..i barely do.. if Antonio Bryant can ware 88 and lets see mansters number i saw is on Williams now, correct but wasnt it on Kamara last offseason..i cant remember but many great past players have their numbers still in circulation and on less than stellar players. theres no debate really, very rare the nfl can retire or not use numbers.60 players on a team counting PS etc only so many can be used.
 

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Makes good points why number 12, 8 and 22 not being handed out, but 88 still is.


I believe the original thinking behind it was that running backs and defensive backs were limited to numbers in the 20s-40s, so you couldn't really afford to not hand out many of those. Same with 88 since the wide receivers were limited to the 80s and the tight ends could only use numbers in the 80s or in the 40s.

Compare that to the number of quarterbacks you have yearly who were able to pick from anywhere from 0-19. The only other players who were wearing those numbers were kickers and punters. That made it easy to set aside two of those numbers without being too limiting, but 10 DBs, plus 3-4 RBs, plus TEs if they wanted limited those numbers between 20-40. OL-DL had some of the same issues, but had between 50-100(00) to choose from.

Now, that DBs and WRs can choose the lower numbers that were reserved for QBs and Ks, it has opened things up to allow more numbers to be set aside if the team wishes to do that. Frankly, I think it's an honor for a player to be given a number only worn by a team's greats and would like to see us do that, like we're doing with 88, instead of parking the number. But I also think it's neat for each number to have a great player associated with it.
 

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I do not think numbers should ever be retired.

I do fully support a "not available for a set amount of time" period though for star players such as 5-10 years depending on the player's history in the franchise.

I mean do fans really care if a player wears #8, #22 or #88 now? It has been so long, I just do not see it being disrespectful.

Beyond that though, I see no reason for retiring or even protecting player numbers.

You can still feature player names and numbers on banners if you want, just do not refer to them as "retired numbers" and instead call them "Team of Fame" for example.
100% well said
 

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I do not think numbers should ever be retired.

I do fully support a "not available for a set amount of time" period though for star players such as 5-10 years depending on the player's history in the franchise.

I mean do fans really care if a player wears #8, #22 or #88 now? It has been so long, I just do not see it being disrespectful.

Beyond that though, I see no reason for retiring or even protecting player numbers.

You can still feature player names and numbers on banners if you want, just do not refer to them as "retired numbers" and instead call them "Team of Fame" for example.

Agree with your points. Look at the Yankees. They don't have any single digit numbers left to give out. The 5-10 years suggestion seems about right but I bet 8, 12, and 22 are unofficially retired for the life of the player. I kind of like that 88 gets recycled to the best receiver, though. It creates more of a history and sometimes it doesn't quite work (Antonio Bryant).
 

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i don't give a damn what any panel of "experts" tell me....i will ALWAYS believe tony dorsett was one of the 100 greatest players to ever put on the pads.
never thought i'd live to see tony dorsett under-rated.
anyone who saw him...knows.
he was one of the greatest...ever.
 
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