Why should I stay a Cowboys fan?

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Rustoleum is in Cowboys purgatory right now and wants to have it make sense. He’s heard of the greatness of the past and what it took to get there and now sees a FO that seems to take steps contrary to the old formula that worked………I also don’t understand all the moves that are being made but not understanding them and still being a fan of the team isn’t mutually exclusive.

I just want to see the next generation of new fans get the joy and satisfaction that we have had with this franchise
Well said, and me too!!!!!!
 

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First Jerry is in the entertainment business first and foremost. Many fans are there for the singular football thing. The NFL product has changed its entertainment. They present as football but it’s the big show. It irritates fans who are there for the football they were conditioned to love.

And that's the thing I was venting about. I understand that the NFL is a business. I understand the goal is to earn vast sums if money. Where I felt insulted was that Jerry's comments indicated that he put that above winning. To me, that was insulting as I have been a fan for a long time, and I never thought a sports owner would say such a thing, especially one that used to see success that I've never been able to find with this club yet. Mind you, in English Football, they can't really do that because, if you just sit back and expect to collect a paycheck, then your squad is going to get humiliated time and again like Man U and/or could be relegated. Everton, a massive club, came within a match of being relegated, which would have been beyond embarrassing for them. Clubs like my favourite one in Bournemouth that are small are expected to get relegated after a few years just with how small we are. But, big ones like Everton are just as capable of relegation too, and being in a relegation scrap is nearly as humiliating for a massive club as actually getting relegated.

So, perhaps because I'm a bigger fan of the Premier League than the NFL, I'm accustomed to seeing teams being forced to try to improve.
 

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And that's the thing I was venting about. I understand that the NFL is a business. I understand the goal is to earn vast sums if money. Where I felt insulted was that Jerry's comments indicated that he put that above winning. To me, that was insulting as I have been a fan for a long time, and I never thought a sports owner would say such a thing, especially one that used to see success that I've never been able to find with this club yet. Mind you, in English Football, they can't really do that because, if you just sit back and expect to collect a paycheck, then your squad is going to get humiliated time and again like Man U and/or could be relegated. Everton, a massive club, came within a match of being relegated, which would have been beyond embarrassing for them. Clubs like my favourite one in Bournemouth that are small are expected to get relegated after a few years just with how small we are. But, big ones like Everton are just as capable of relegation too, and being in a relegation scrap is nearly as humiliating for a massive club as actually getting relegated.

So, perhaps because I'm a bigger fan of the Premier League than the NFL, I'm accustomed to seeing teams being forced to try to improve.

Perhaps this is why the NFL and American sports in general (including the MLS) have never really embraced relegation. Why have legitimate competition and other levels of leagues to compete with when you can just monopolise the sport? If I were the NFL commissioner, I'd have the XFL and USFL as leagues in which teams can be promoted and relegated. The last place team would be relegated and draft last in the next draft. The champion of the lower league is promoted to the upper league and drafts first. This would light a spark because the relegated clubs would likely lose loads of money and talent, so tanking would not be advised if you want to stay up.
 

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And that's the thing I was venting about. I understand that the NFL is a business. I understand the goal is to earn vast sums if money. Where I felt insulted was that Jerry's comments indicated that he put that above winning. To me, that was insulting as I have been a fan for a long time, and I never thought a sports owner would say such a thing. Mind you, in English Football, they can't really do that because, if you just sit back and expect to collect a paycheck, then your squad is going to get humiliated time and again like Man U and/or could be relegated. Everton, a massive club, came within a match of being relegated, which would have been beyond embarrassing for them. Clubs like my favourite one in Bournemouth that are small are expected to get relegated after a few years just with how small we are. But, big ones like Everton are just as capable of relegation too, and being in a relegation scrap is nearly as humiliating for a massive club as actually getting relegated.

So, perhaps because I'm a bigger fan of the Premier League than the NFL, I'm accustomed to seeing teams being forced to try to improve.
I have accepted the new reality because there is no other entertainment that comes close to the NFL. Some teams execute their product better but if I see through the eyes of entertainment and not just football I’m less irraitated
 

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I have accepted the new reality because there is no other entertainment that comes close to the NFL. Some teams execute their product better but if I see through the eyes of entertainment and not just football I’m less irraitated

I dunno about that, the Premier League is very entertaining. Last season was a brilliant example. There were two teams who were vying for the League Championship, which came down to the last matchday against two different teams (with Man City winning the title over Liverpool) and at least 4 sides battling to avoid relegation. Leeds and Everton stayed up while Burnley and Watford went down in a very exciting last matchday. It's funny how the NFL, who claims to pride itself on competition, won't implement relegation, which can cause even more entertaining matches as teams scrap to avoid relegation.
 

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It is part of the issue.
Dak probably won't be able to get us there. If he doesn't do better I'll probably start criticizing him more too. I was very angry at him for his play in that playoff game. But it won't matter in the end. We can have a HOF qb here and I think we'd still fall short in the playoffs. Look at Aaron Rogers. He hasn't done anything in 12 years.
 

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Dak probably won't be able to get us there. If he doesn't do better I'll probably start criticizing him more too. I was very angry at him for his play in that playoff game. But it won't matter in the end. We can have a HOF qb here and I think we'd still fall short in the playoffs. Look at Aaron Rogers. He hasn't done anything in 12 years.

Exactly, though I'd also argue, for that playoff game, the blocking was quite pathetic. Also, the penalties were ridiculous. The team picked a very bad day to play as sloppily as they did, and against a side that is one of the top teams in the league in SFO.
 

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You need to come on here and be able to vent, this board is great therapy for all of us. Dont hold in and let it get all balled up...
Respectfully, I strongly dislike all of the whining. It makes it really annoying and frustrating
 

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I'm staying because I like our players and coaches. However, I'm not going to be defending Jerry anymore. I've defended him quite often and tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. No more with that having read his insult. As someone stated, which helped me, this team has been around before him, and it'll be here after Jerry. I'm too heavily invested to go anywhere, so I'm staying a Cowboys supporter.
What insult
 

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What insult

When he said "If we got them talking about us, then we've done our job." I took that as an insult as a young fan because I've never seen us be successful, and that comment came off, to me anyway, as though being relevant was more important than winning. Thus, it came off as though he doesn't care if we win as long as we're talked about.
 

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I've only started questioning it as stated, and I still like, overall the players and all. I also very much enjoy the board and all. I'm just flabbergasted that Jerry stated what he said, and it feels like a slap to the face.
You are just having a really bad day.
I plan to stay a Cowboys fan as long as I can stomach it. For the longest time, I've been a diehard Cowboys fan. However, I just have to ask. Why should I stay a Cowboys fan? This is the first time I can remember truly questioning it. However, the statements Jerry made about essentially wanting us to be talked about being more important than winning guts me as a young fan. I started watching this franchise in about 2000. I gobbled up everything Cowboys, and I still always want to stay on this board. That said, what's the point of cheering on a team when the owner cares more about the Forbes Bowl than winning the Super Bowl? It's clear now why he makes the moves he makes. It's clear to me now why he won't do what it takes to win, such as a proper GM, better coaching, and why it's always one side of the ball that's atrocious and one side that's not.

I'm writing this thread to ask for help. Help me to understand why I should stay a fan. I plan to do so just because I don't have another team I'd support, and I enjoy this board. Overall, I still very much enjoy the Cowboys, and I like our players. However, Jerry's statements felt like a slap to the face when I've taken every insult from other fans. I spurned the Eagles, whom most of my family supports. I spurned the Broncos when my favourite animal is clearly a horse. I spurned the Texans when they started to stay a Cowboys supporter. I've happily taken the insults. And for what? A team who is run by an owner who couldn't care less about winning?

Again, I'm NOT quitting the Cowboys. I'm more venting my anger with what Jerry stated and asking for help on why I should carry on as I plan to do so as a Cowboys fan.

Also, for those who say "You're a quitter", I've been one of the most positive fans on this board. I've always tried to stay positive no matter what. I'm still trying to stick to the Cowboys. Also, how would you respond to Jerry's comments if you were in my shoes having never seen us get to the NFC Championship game?
You stay a Cowboys fan because leaving the Cowboys faithful is sacrilegious.
 

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Sorry I have never thought of not being interested in liking football, I damn sure never thought of not loving the Cowboys.

I'll admit I don't care who the owner is I didn't care about Tex Schram when he owned them, I don't care about Jerry and Co.

That's not something I consider my business . To be fair, I don't care about salaries , I just love football and the players who play

I guess that's why I don't get all bent from year to year. To tell you the truth I don't really care about Super Bowls. Sure I get ecstatic when we win them but that's not why I watch.

I watch because I love football and I love the Dallas Cowboys.

Best to you and and hang in there
 

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When he said "If we got them talking about us, then we've done our job." I took that as an insult as a young fan because I've never seen us be successful, and that comment came off, to me anyway, as though being relevant was more important than winning. Thus, it came off as though he doesn't care if we win as long as we're talked about.
His job is to get people talking about the team
He’s the owner and as an owner he’s one of the best in the league
His role as GM, not so much
 

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With the CAP constantly destroying teams by players moving, I’d say there is no reason to get attached to any team for more than a year.
 
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