Prescott is not taking his team to a championship ever

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He reminds me of Joe Flacco during his era, except Flacco was better IMO. They both need weapons and help and when they both took major contracts, that was the end of them.
That's my favorite comparison as well. He's Joe Flacco. He's doable if the team is great. I also think Joe was better too. Joe, and the Ravens, suffered after he got his massive contract. I feel Dak will go the Flacco route and be a backup in 2 years. Hopefully our organization can recover like the Ravens and find us a Lamar and be competitive again.
 

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Look Dak does a lot of things well but he has major limitations.

Has no elite traits.

He'll check down to rbs and TEs before targeting open receivers down field.

Can be wildly inconsistent throwing the ball.

Does not hit receivers in stride or out of breaks.

He's late a lot. He'll either wait too late he has to check down, to late and make the play sacrificing yac, or so late he can't even throw it. Holds the ball at times way too long.

Has trouble diagnosing defensive coverage at times. A lot of times.

Has not shown the ability to make tight window throws or have adequate ball placement on contested catches.

Does not make players around him better.

Mentally has trouble beating better quality opponents.
Soooo...what does he do well? Doesn't seem like there's a lot of categories left? Oh I know...Leadership! He's a great leader.

More credit to him.
 

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Soooo...what does he do well? Doesn't seem like there's a lot of categories left? Oh I know...Leadership! He's a great leader.

More credit to him.

The post says "ELITE TRAITS"....most other top QB have a 'go-to' skillset, be it accuracy, arm strength, ability to read plays.....something that they can naturally fall back on. Dak is great when the Offense is moving forward and he can accrue the small yardage and move the chains......he's lost part of this ability with the 2020 injury as his mobility has somewhat reduced.
 

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The post says "ELITE TRAITS"....most other top QB have a 'go-to' skillset, be it accuracy, arm strength, ability to read plays.....something that they can naturally fall back on. Dak is great when the Offense is moving forward and he can accrue the small yardage and move the chains......he's lost part of this ability with the 2020 injury as his mobility has somewhat reduced.
Don't get me wrong. I agree with everything you wrote, just not sure what's left for him to do well.
 

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I think a better title would have been to replace Dak with the Jones boys. I'm not a Dak fan, but I don't think any QB can do it with their SOP. The Packers have a very similar SOP to the Cowboys and Rodgers only has one back in 2010. They got hot as a 10-6 wildcard team. This system gives Prescott zero chance.
I didn’t make the title. They changed it on me
 

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Buddy, you could say that about any player on the Cowboys. Nothing to do with the player.

Stafford had 4 picks and got killed. Burrows had 3 picks and they lost. Its one game.........get over it.

Dak is a top 10 QB. Nothing has changed. Dont start being a troll like some of these losers on here.
Just venting
 

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Prescott is not taking his team to a championship ever. I’ve done nothing but support him. But the obvious is that. We need a franchise quarterback. Even treating for Garoppolo , It’s only a fix. It’s going to be a long season my cowboy family. But it’s not over til it’s over. This defense will keep us in ball games

Kudos bro for keeping it real after all the debates and ‘fights’ we had.
 

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Kudos bro for keeping it real after all the debates we had.
It’s the going backwards that pissed me off. I thought he was improving not much but he was. It was an embarrassing show Sunday night. Year seven. No way I’m done with him
 

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There is only one way to salvage this franchise.

You're going to hate it.
Trade Parsons for the #1 pick plus and draft a franchise QB.
I love defense and I love Parsons but you never afford to pay him. Trade him at the end of the season while he's hot.
Meanwhile you still have your pics to improve the lines in the draft
2 years to super bowl.
 

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Dak was throwing into double and triple coverage, besides his typical, horrible mechanics and poor pocket awareness that are clearly not going to be corrected, as they are ingrained in him. I mean come on, it’s the same “hopping” before he throws, slow reaction time, poor pocket presence and throwing with his arm and back foot.

You would at least expect him to avoid the former in year 8 as well, but these throws were like a deer-in-headlight rookie QB, not knowing what to do.

The Dak experiment is officially coming to an end even for his biggest defenders.
 

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There is only one way to salvage this franchise.

You're going to hate it.
Trade Parsons for the #1 pick plus and draft a franchise QB.
I love defense and I love Parsons but you never afford to pay him. Trade him at the end of the season while he's hot.
Meanwhile you still have your pics to improve the lines in the draft
2 years to super bowl.

that’s actually a good idea.
 

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Prescott is not taking his team to a championship ever. I’ve done nothing but support him. But the obvious is that. We need a franchise quarterback. Even treating for Garoppolo , It’s only a fix. It’s going to be a long season my cowboy family. But it’s not over til it’s over. This defense will keep us in ball games
I think garapilo would be a mistake. He only plays ok if you use a run game. Moore won’t use it. He needs to open his 2016 playbook. It’s his last year here. Who does he take down with him.
 

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I think garapilo would be a mistake. He only plays ok if you use a run game. Moore won’t use it. He needs to open his 2016 playbook. It’s his last year here. Who does he take down with him.
I’m just looking for answers my cowboy brother. Extremely venting
 

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I’m just looking for answers my cowboy brother. Extremely venting

The problem is that the Jones' have screwed up so epically that there is no quick fix for this. Mainly because we are stuck with an albatross of a contract for a QB that no other team in the league is going to want to trade for. We have other bad contracts in the form of an overpaid RB, a DE who disappears through most of the game and isn't going to provide what you need in support of Parsons. A horrible WR situation that has been created by the front office. OL needs. Even if you burned picks to get Garappolo he isn't going to fix what is needed in terms of the holes and remember, those holes are just on the talent. That doesn't even account for the dysfunction created by the owner in his coaching staff.
 

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I’m just looking for answers my cowboy brother. Extremely venting
I understand. We on the boards have some good ideas. The next game should be easier. But I think that philibin needs to go and Moore needs to go or MM needs to take over play calling. Some say he don’t know the terminology. If he don’t know then he needs to go.

Run the ball and use short passes. Take the deep shots. Use Turpin on go routes. Use his speed to clear out underneath. Put Lamb in the slot and Turpin on go routes. Either the safety goes to help cover Turpin because he will be gone and leaves Lamb open on the out route or take the deep shot, maybe a catch or a penalty. But stretch the field. Run the ball and play action.
 

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The problem is that the Jones' have screwed up so epically that there is no quick fix for this. Mainly because we are stuck with an albatross of a contract for a QB that no other team in the league is going to want to trade for. We have other bad contracts in the form of an overpaid RB, a DE who disappears through most of the game and isn't going to provide what you need in support of Parsons. A horrible WR situation that has been created by the front office. OL needs. Even if you burned picks to get Garappolo he isn't going to fix what is needed in terms of the holes and remember, those holes are just on the talent. That doesn't even account for the dysfunction created by the owner in his coaching staff.
Don’t burn picks for a QB that NEEDS a run game to do anything. If 49ers didn’t have that run game he would not be here still. And how did he lose his starting job. For this young kid. He took the 49ers to the playoffs. Lmao. He is worse than Dak. And if Moore won’t give Dak a consistent run game then he won’t give it to garapilo either. He would throw 3 picks a game.

If Moore wont run the ball with Rush in then he has to go. After this last game I am convinced Moore is as much of the problem as Dak or the O-Line.
 

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[QUOTE="GINeric, post: 12069992, member: 41054"]Where are all the Dak haters when he has a great game and Dallas wins???

You say he's average to below average, but his production put him in the top 10 a couple of times during his career, even last season.

Now my eyes, former and current players, coaches, GMs and scouts all said that Dak is a top 10 player. So who sounds more credible in this situation???

Players, coaches, GMs and scouts who are paid millions to work in the NFL.... or someone like you who most likely never played beyond pop warner?? Do you believe you know more about football talent than coaches, GMs, players and scouts??? Because your opinion heavily contradicts theirs. Im not saying you're right or wrong, i just want to know if you believe you know more than the people who coach and play in the NFL.....

He makes his bones against crappy teams and then craps the bed against good teams. He is 6-6 since the league figured out he can't read a defense.

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"Taking this team to a championship" - that is where so many disagreements on this board hinged. It's tough to find a QB who gives you a chance, no argument from me. But the difference between one where "I can see a plausible scenario if everything goes right" and "This guy is going to be the best QB on the field every (or almost every) time" is huge. That is why so many of us would have been OK letting him walk rather than signing him to a contract. We could sign a dozen guys at a lot lower rater that will get you 7-10 wins a season with a good team around them. All while keeping our options open to find a guy you really believed in. Unless you have one of the top QB's, your chances at a championship are slim. So why marry yourself to something that most likely can't take you there?
 
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