Twitter: RGIII on the Cowboys return for Dak

[CowboyFrog]

Did you want to roll with Dak and keep the ride going or did you want to back to Romo who was clearly the better player in 2016?

Dak was not in any "QB awards" running in 2016. He was tied for 15th in TD passes, 19th in yards, 24th in YPG....

He was just a below average QB that protected the ball and handed it to Zeke (who won the rushing title by over 300 yards). Zeke was robbed of ROY that year. When you win the rushing title as a rookie by over 300 yards it should be a no brainer.

I don't believe Rush is going to lead us to 13 straight wins with this team because he won't have the chance to beging with, but I also don't believe Dak is going to either.

lol you really have to dig Dak about his award? if he didnt win it playing QB how did he win it? Again this shows where your heads at, its not about actual field play for you at this point its about a player and your feeling towards him....if you can honestly say you think Cooper Rush is as good a QB as Dak then just say it and let it fly here...who knows Maybe Rush rips off the next 4 wins and plays lights out..I hope he does means the Cowboys are wining..but nothing we have seen from Rush the last 4 years points to that, not last week either no matter how much you want that game to count against Dak.

 

[CowboyoWales]

lol you really have to dig Dak about his award? if he didnt win it playing QB how did he win it? Again this shows where your heads at, its not about actual field play for you at this point its about a player and your feeling towards him....if you can honestly say you think Cooper Rush is as good a QB as Dak then just say it and let it fly here...who knows Maybe Rush rips off the next 4 wins and plays lights out..I hope he does means the Cowboys are wining..but nothing we have seen from Rush the last 4 years points to that, not last week either no matter how much you want that game to count against Dak.

Rush's past 4 years has nothing to do with anything, just look at Dak's last two performances. I dont think Rush's as good a QB as Dak, but our no.4 is now a problem, by way of both playing ability and that contract.

Being better than Rush shouldnt even be a discussion, the fact it is, is a detriment to how Dak is now perceived.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

lol you really have to dig Dak about his award? if he didnt win it playing QB how did he win it? Again this shows where your heads at, its not about actual field play for you at this point its about a player and your feeling towards him....if you can honestly say you think Cooper Rush is as good a QB as Dak then just say it and let it fly here...who knows Maybe Rush rips off the next 4 wins and plays lights out..I hope he does means the Cowboys are wining..but nothing we have seen from Rush the last 4 years points to that, not last week either no matter how much you want that game to count against Dak.

You've seen Rush for 2 games in 4 years and you've come to the conclusion that he's just some backup level player, right? At least with Dak we've seen him long enough to form an opinion, but with Rush you're writing him off without him ever getting a fair shot like Dak did. Dak never sees the field if Romo AND Moore doesn't get hurt. He was 3rd string. He got a lucky break and took advantage of it. Rush has never had that chance.

Cooper Rush in first 2 starts - 3 TDs, 1 INT, 560 yards, and lead us to a 2-0 record.
Dak Prescott in first 2 starts - 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 519 yards, and led us to a 1-1 record

I just need to know what you saw in Dak that you don't see in Rush. Where did Dak set himself apart and made you say... ya know, maybe we have something here?

Again, I don't believe Rush or Dak is anything special. I just find the mental gymnastics that you guys can play to act like Rush is some bum compared to Dak without even giving him a chance interesting.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Rush's past 4 years has nothing to do with anything, just look at Dak's last two performances. I dont think Rush's as good a QB as Dak, but our no.4 is now a problem, by way of both playing ability and that contract.

Being better than Rush shouldnt even be a discussion, the fact it is, is a detriment to how far Dak is now perceived.

Fans perception though no way real NFL coaches or GM's have this opinion. again the contracts are set this season, why would you play Rush if Dak is healthy? As i have said if you could upgrade the QB I'm all for it, but whats an upgrade is the issue here...There are some selling Rush as that and its not even close. If you can show me that after the first half of last year Dak decided to not play or get worse or anything like that THEN I'll agree the OC is working but the QB is killing him...right now its very obvious this OC got rooked by Denver and still can not figure out how to beat the same damn defense every good team has replicated since....if you have a way of getting the Rodgers/Mahomes type QB here now I'm with you...and the main reason is I think Rodgers would actually come out and say how trash the O scheme is against that defense.

 

[CowboyFrog]

You've seen Rush for 2 games in 4 years and you've come to the conclusion that he's just some backup level player, right? At least with Dak we've seen him long enough to form an opinion, but with Rush you're writing him off without him ever getting a fair shot like Dak did.

Cooper Rush in first 2 starts - 3 TDs, 1 INT, 560 yards, and lead us to a 2-0 record.
Dak Prescott in first 2 starts - 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 519 yards, and led us to a 1-1 record

I just need to know what you saw in Dak that you don't see in Rush. Where did Dak set himself apart and made you say... ya know, maybe we have something here?

Again, I don't believe Rush or Dak is anything special. I just find the mental gymnastics that you guys can play to act like Rush is some bum compared to Dak without even giving him a chance interesting.

hey man again the mental gymnastics is watching last weeks game and trying to tell me Rush was throwing dimes...you can act like Daks good games were luck or whatever and thats fine..and I'm not the GM so Rush will get the chance and I will root for him...Quick question were your thoughts on the backup QB for this team this offseason "Hey Rush is fine he just needs a chance?" again who is playing mental gymnastics here?

Fact is Dak has shown he is a starting quality QB in this league, you can like it or not but what you cant do is disprove it at all...and again until i see Rush play like Dak did in the first half of last year or other long stretches where he is widley considered a top 10 QB THEN ill say wow Mountain you were on to something. Its really mirroring the whole Andy debate.."Anyone but Dak" gets my vote and to me thats not at all about the good of the team its about a player...and you beat that drum pretty hard on "Dont let it be about a player"...you have a better option then lets roll but if Rush is your better option i question your motives highly.

And dont be silly on the first 2 starts..I can show you HOF QB's with much worse and neither of us is dumb enough to compare them to Rush

 

[CowboyoWales]

Fans perception though no way real NFL coaches or GM's have this opinion. again the contracts are set this season, why would you play Rush if Dak is healthy? As i have said if you could upgrade the QB I'm all for it, but whats an upgrade is the issue here...There are some selling Rush as that and its not even close. If you can show me that after the first half of last year Dak decided to not play or get worse or anything like that THEN I'll agree the OC is working but the QB is killing him...right now its very obvious this OC got rooked by Denver and still can not figure out how to beat the same damn defense every good team has replicated since....if you have a way of getting the Rodgers/Mahomes type QB here now I'm with you...and the main reason is I think Rodgers would actually come out and say how trash the O scheme is against that defense.

Dak's weaknesses were exposed and whilst Moore can't figure it out, neither can Dak....he has the chance to change to a running play (if necessary).

With the no-trade cause, the $101m CAP hit in 23/24 and limited passing game means we are likely to be stuck with him.....but he will have to take a high proportion of the responsibility as befits the contract.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

hey man again the mental gymnastics is watching last weeks game and trying to tell me Rush was throwing dimes...you can act like Daks good games were luck or whatever and thats fine..and I'm not the GM so Rush will get the chance and I will root for him...Quick question were your thoughts on the backup QB for this team this offseason "Hey Rush is fine he just needs a chance?" again who is playing mental gymnastics here?

Fact is Dak has shown he is a starting quality QB in this league, you can like it or not but what you cant do is disprove it at all...and again until i see Rush play like Dak did in the first half of last year or other long stretches where he is widley considered a top 10 QB THEN ill say wow Mountain you were on to something. Its really mirroring the whole Andy debate.."Anyone but Dak" gets my vote and to me thats not at all about the good of the team its about a player...and you beat that drum pretty hard on "Dont let it be about a player"...you have a better option then lets roll but if Rush is your better option i question your motives highly.

And dont be silly on the first 2 starts..I can show you HOF QB's with much worse and neither of us is dumb enough to compare them to Rush

I didn't say either or those things you stated in your first sentence paragraph. I don't think Rush was "throwing dimes" or that Dak's good games were "lucky".

Were you thoughts on Dak when he was 3rd string backing up Romo and Moore "Hey, Dak is great and will be irreplaceable in my eyes 6 years from now"?

Dak has shown he's starter because he has been given a chance to show that. Rush has not been given a chance because he's not be fortunate like Dak and had every other option in front of him get injured.

I don't want to see Rush "play like Dak". I'd prefer to see Rush play much better than Dak. Wouldn't you?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Fans perception though no way real NFL coaches or GM's have this opinion. again the contracts are set this season, why would you play Rush if Dak is healthy? As i have said if you could upgrade the QB I'm all for it, but whats an upgrade is the issue here...There are some selling Rush as that and its not even close. If you can show me that after the first half of last year Dak decided to not play or get worse or anything like that THEN I'll agree the OC is working but the QB is killing him...right now its very obvious this OC got rooked by Denver and still can not figure out how to beat the same damn defense every good team has replicated since....if you have a way of getting the Rodgers/Mahomes type QB here now I'm with you...and the main reason is I think Rodgers would actually come out and say how trash the O scheme is against that defense.

You can only put so much blame on Moore when your QB known for not being able to read a defense at a high level is doing things like this.....

 

[CowboyFrog]

Dak's weaknesses were exposed and whilst Moore can't figure it out, neither can Dak....he has the chance to change to a running play (if necessary).

With the no-trade cause, the $101m CAP hit in 23/24 and limited passing game means we are likely to be stuck with him.....but he will have to take a high proportion of the responsibility as befits the contract.

Absolutley he needs to shoulder it and for all the reasons you just listed you better figure out if it is the OC if your the GM because man are you screwed if somehow the QB forgot how to play.

 

[CowboyoWales]

hey man again the mental gymnastics is watching last weeks game and trying to tell me Rush was throwing dimes...you can act like Daks good games were luck or whatever and thats fine..and I'm not the GM so Rush will get the chance and I will root for him...Quick question were your thoughts on the backup QB for this team this offseason "Hey Rush is fine he just needs a chance?" again who is playing mental gymnastics here?

Fact is Dak has shown he is a starting quality QB in this league, you can like it or not but what you cant do is disprove it at all...and again until i see Rush play like Dak did in the first half of last year or other long stretches where he is widley considered a top 10 QB THEN ill say wow Mountain you were on to something. Its really mirroring the whole Andy debate.."Anyone but Dak" gets my vote and to me thats not at all about the good of the team its about a player...and you beat that drum pretty hard on "Dont let it be about a player"...you have a better option then lets roll but if Rush is your better option i question your motives highly.

And dont be silly on the first 2 starts..I can show you HOF QB's with much worse and neither of us is dumb enough to compare them to Rush

This is a what have you done for me lately league. If you notice the Jimmie Ward comment in my sig, that was 9 games following the Denver Blueprint was exposed.

Teams will willingly give Dak the chance to beat them.....they arent scared of him and as such he'll need to step up and make the connections.

 

[CowboyFrog]

You can only put so much blame on Moore when your QB known for not being able to read a defense at a high level is doing things like this.....

so let get this straight you think the Coaches and Dak are at odds on what he is doing the last 8 games and just cant do anything about it? you think the coaches are like "Man stop checking out of this" and the QB for 8 weeks has said "Screw you"....makes no sense. The defenses left week 1 saying "We knew what they were going to do" hmm were have i heard this before...but yeah its Dak he is calling the shots now...lol come on man again Dak needs to play better the OC needs to change his gameplan as its pretty obvious to people that the defense is literally doing the same thing to him week in and out and he has changed nothing. did you notice Cincy started out blitzing last game thinking "Man new QB rule 1 is blitz" then after they calmed down said..nope this is KM offense roll full zone and poof we stalled again. Thank god the other team had a horrible Oline and not the GOAT keeping scoring drives alive.

 

[CowboyFrog]

This is a what have you done for me lately league. If you notice the Jimmie Ward comment in my sig, that was 9 games following the Denver Blueprint was exposed.

Teams will willingly give Dak the chance to beat them.....they arent scared of him and as such he'll need to step up and make the connections.

For sure he needs to play better, but again when you hear the other team say "We knew what they were going to do on offense" you are back in JG land and everyone has seen this from the OC for a while.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

so let get this straight you think the Coaches and Dak are at odds on what he is doing the last 8 games and just cant do anything about it? you think the coaches are like "Man stop checking out of this" and the QB for 8 weeks has said "Screw you"....makes no sense. The defenses left week 1 saying "We knew what they were going to do" hmm were have i heard this before...but yeah its Dak he is calling the shots now...lol come on man again Dak needs to play better the OC needs to change his gameplan as its pretty obvious to people that the defense is literally doing the same thing to him week in and out and he has changed nothing. did you notice Cincy started out blitzing last game thinking "Man new QB rule 1 is blitz" then after they calmed down said..nope this is KM offense roll full zone and poof we stalled again. Thank god the other team had a horrible Oline and not the GOAT keeping scoring drives alive.

How would you feel if you was Moore, you study the opponent, you know what play you should call.....

Then you have your QB that can't read a defense call out of almost half the run plays you called?

Would you be cool with that? Remember, your job is on the line here too.

The OC can change his game plan all he wants too, but if Dak thinks he sees something and changes the play then you can't do anything about it.

Maybe that's another thing Rush has over Dak. He listens.

 

[CowboyoWales]

so let get this straight you think the Coaches and Dak are at odds on what he is doing the last 8 games and just cant do anything about it? you think the coaches are like "Man stop checking out of this" and the QB for 8 weeks has said "Screw you"....makes no sense. The defenses left week 1 saying "We knew what they were going to do" hmm were have i heard this before...but yeah its Dak he is calling the shots now...lol come on man again Dak needs to play better the OC needs to change his gameplan as its pretty obvious to people that the defense is literally doing the same thing to him week in and out and he has changed nothing. did you notice Cincy started out blitzing last game thinking "Man new QB rule 1 is blitz" then after they calmed down said..nope this is KM offense roll full zone and poof we stalled again. Thank god the other team had a horrible Oline and not the GOAT keeping scoring drives alive.

Stop being obtuse. The argument has always been that it's KM's fault for calling passing plays and moving away from the run. Dak has the ultimate call on the field, so you can hardly put the blame solely on Moore's shoulders.

So if Dak didnt get on with Amari (evidenced as i'm sure Dak keeps his favorites), his game doesnt suit CeeDee and now he doesnt like the OC's choice of running play ....where is the common denominator??? Especially when an inferior QB got proportionately better performances out of his receivers.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I didn't say either or those things you stated in your first sentence paragraph. I don't think Rush was "throwing dimes" or that Dak's good games were "lucky".

Were you thoughts on Dak when he was 3rd string backing up Romo and Moore "Hey, Dak is great and will be irreplaceable in my eyes 6 years from now"?

Dak has shown he's starter because he has been given a chance to show that. Rush has not been given a chance because he's not be fortunate like Dak and had every other option in front of him get injured.

I don't want to see Rush "play like Dak". I'd prefer to see Rush play much better than Dak. Wouldn't you?

I want Rush to play like Tom Brady, I would love for him to play like Dak Prescott in First half of last season...Im not betting my house on either though.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Stop being obtuse. The argument has always been that it's KM's fault for calling passing plays and moving away from the run. Dak has the ultimate call on the field, so you can hardly put the blame solely on Moore's shoulders.

So if Dak didnt get on with Amari (evidenced as i'm sure Dak keeps his favorites), his game doesnt suit CeeDee and now he doesnt like the OC's choice of running play ....where is the common denominator??? Especially when an inferior QB got proportionately better performances out of his receivers.

First literally said Dak needs to play better..Sorry if you missed that ill refrain from calling you obtuse about it, second Amari was at odds with our owner if you cant grasp that after everything that has been said then once again...your word of the day Obtuse..comes into play. Lastley the OC is 100% responsible for how the plays on offense go..especially when its a long stretch of games, I'm pretty sure if the QB has been changing his plays wrong at the line the HC is going to ask him to fix it....which again is not some crazy thought pretty much what a coordinator should be doing, so again if its Dak then he has literally been ignoring the OC telling him to stop doing that.

 

[75boyz]

Stop being obtuse. The argument has always been that it's KM's fault for calling passing plays and moving away from the run. Dak has the ultimate call on the field, so you can hardly put the blame solely on Moore's shoulders.

So if Dak didnt get on with Amari (evidenced as i'm sure Dak keeps his favorites), his game doesnt suit CeeDee and now he doesnt like the OC's choice of running play ....where is the common denominator??? Especially when an inferior QB got proportionately better performances out of his receivers.

Hard to argue any of this if you're honest.

 

[CowboyoWales]

First literally said Dak needs to play better..Sorry if you missed that ill refrain from calling you obtuse about it, second Amari was at odds with our owner if you cant grasp that after everything that has been said then once again...your word of the day Obtuse..comes into play. Lastley the OC is 100% responsible for how the plays on offense go..especially when its a long stretch of games, I'm pretty sure if the QB has been changing his plays wrong at the line the HC is going to ask him to fix it....which again is not some crazy thought pretty much what a coordinator should be doing, so again if its Dak then he has literally been ignoring the OC telling him to stop doing that.

Ok, you've deflected again. I noted your comment that Dak needed to improve, but as it wasnt substantiated by anything specific and you went back to apportioning blame to everyone else so I didnt take it as a sincere comment.

So how/what does Dak need to do to 'play better', and why cant he do it at the moment?

 

[America's Cowboy]

Actually the whole offense.......you didn't see the difference?

He saw it. He just likes to act ignorant since he hates Dak so much. He looks for anything to twist to bash Dak. That's his and his groupies game.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Ok, you've deflected again. I noted your comment that Dak needed to improve, but as it wasnt substantiated by anything specific and you went back to apportioning blame to everyone else so I didnt take it as a sincere comment.

So how/what does Dak need to do to 'play better', and why cant he do it at the moment?

No deflection because you didnt ask a question before, you made comments..pretty simple:

Amari Cooper had his best years as a pro here with Dak...The owner made it clear and talked to the media about availability and why he traded him (that which cant be discussed here)

CeeDee Lamb was in fact the leading WR on the team last year so when his game does suite Dak will he have 2k yards?

Kellen Moore is the OC which literally means its his job to have a gameplan..and get this.. including what the audibles are and when and what to look for to audible, so since the mid of last season (before Dak was pretty i think) your saying that over that many games the OC and HC have a gameplan and the QB is wrecking it? Dak in fact played a bad game week 1 he threw into coverage several times and looked way to skits out..he needs to calm down run more when its full zone and and try and extend plays to find opens in the zone. The other teams players literally said they knew what we were goin to run slants and curls into full zone..thats not good. And lastley are we going to compare the 2 games as if the opposing defenses were the same? The first 2 drives looked great Cincy happened to be blitzing (you know rule #1 blitz the new QB) but then poof went into the "Book on KM" full zone and complete diferent story on offense..these are facts your welcome to try dispute them.