CFZ Dak might be the best NFC quarterback in the playoffs

JohnnyTheFox

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Don't understand why anybody in their right mind would think Hurts is better than Dak, he plays in the system tailor made for his skill set. Deep down he is still that bum from OU
 

D4KADON

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I mean we are less than a year removed of Dak getting outperformed by Jimmy G.
 

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Looky what we have here....

In my mind, there are 5 legitimate teams in the NFL right now. Buffalo, KC, Philly, Dallas, and San Fran. The rest are maybe average at best and mostly just gawd awful garbage. This is the weakest NFL I've seen in my lifetime.

As such, an interesting development is occurring. Dak Prescott might be the best QB of the NFC teams that make the playoffs. Seriously.

Unless Rodgers or Brady figure out how to resurrect their catatonic teams, the candidates are Jalen Hurts, Jimmy Garoppolo, Kirk Cousins, Daniel Jones, Geno Smith, Marcus Mariota, Matt Stafford, and Dak Prescott.

Rodgers, Brady, and Stafford seem to be on the outside looking in. All three are running for their lives. So Dak and Cousins might the class of the NFC playoffs.

So attrition aside - and injuries will decide much of this - the Cowboys' ability to run the ball and play defense is quite formidable, along with Dak and his tight-end trio of goodness. Another wide receiver is unnecessary.

San Francisco is the scariest if they get it figured out. Philly is half good and half fraudulent because of a cupcake schedule, and none of the rest concern me in the least. Again, attrition aside.

Let Buffalo and KC laugh at the NFC for now; here's hoping the Cowboys can earn a chance to try them. Not a team in the NFL wants to go against this Dallas front if it's healthy come playoff time.

Pretty much what I've been thinking and saying, except for the Dak part. But I agree with that much.

I also think San Franscisco is going to end up being a force. To me, they are the toughest team. However, I think we ultimately have more talent due to how many players on our team have stepped up their game to the next level. Almost every player got better this year rather than worse. Maybe Zeke aside. So that's great.

If I were Zeke, I'd start putting in the extra time to do what you have to do so you body can keep up. Sad to see him decline so much at 26..
 

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Looky what we have here....

In my mind, there are 5 legitimate teams in the NFL right now. Buffalo, KC, Philly, Dallas, and San Fran. The rest are maybe average at best and mostly just gawd awful garbage. This is the weakest NFL I've seen in my lifetime.

As such, an interesting development is occurring. Dak Prescott might be the best QB of the NFC teams that make the playoffs. Seriously.

Unless Rodgers or Brady figure out how to resurrect their catatonic teams, the candidates are Jalen Hurts, Jimmy Garoppolo, Kirk Cousins, Daniel Jones, Geno Smith, Marcus Mariota, Matt Stafford, and Dak Prescott.

Rodgers, Brady, and Stafford seem to be on the outside looking in. All three are running for their lives. So Dak and Cousins might the class of the NFC playoffs.

So attrition aside - and injuries will decide much of this - the Cowboys' ability to run the ball and play defense is quite formidable, along with Dak and his tight-end trio of goodness. Another wide receiver is unnecessary.

San Francisco is the scariest if they get it figured out. Philly is half good and half fraudulent because of a cupcake schedule, and none of the rest concern me in the least. Again, attrition aside.

Let Buffalo and KC laugh at the NFC for now; here's hoping the Cowboys can earn a chance to try them. Not a team in the NFL wants to go against this Dallas front if it's healthy come playoff time.
At no pint in his career will that be the case:
 

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I'm not worried about what or who other teams have at QB. I only worry about what Dallas has. We need to be able to win in the trenches on both sides of the ball. We block great in the running game and for our passing game then I think Dak and our current offensive playmakers can get the job done. On the defensive side of the ball if we can continue to pressure the QB and fix our problems against the run then we will be fine. Beolw are my concerns:

OLine - We need to remain healthy and continue to get better - A healthy Tyron Smith rejoining the team could be a big boost
DLine/LBers - Need to correct these issues against the run.
Offensive Play calling - Need Moore to keep the offense balanced. We don't need him acting like Dak is Mahomes and slinging the ball 50 times a game - Let the run help Dak and mix in a little of Dak running the ball
Depth at CB - We are one injury away from Bossman or Wright entering the game - Scary thought based on the way those 2 have played when given chances

I worry about depth at a few places. We're stacked at RB. But WR worries me. If Lamb gets injured we've got problems. But even then, I think you can get by with the guys we have with Brown, Gallup, Fehoko, Turpin and James Waashington.

The funny thing is people talk so much crap about Bossman . . . He got scored on in the Bears game, but that's going to happen. It was interesting timing for Brown to come out.

I just don't worry about Kevlin Joseph as much as others do. I think he'll be alright if we end up needing him.
 

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Did Matthew Stafford retire?

Stafford threw 2 picks and had a sub 90 QBR in his super bowl win…I think him and Dak are comparable talent wise but Dak would get murdered on here with that kind of playoff performance.

Like most QBs, Stafford needed a great squad around him to get it done last year. This year, bad OL play and the Rams sucks. Weird how that works.
 

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Looky what we have here....

In my mind, there are 5 legitimate teams in the NFL right now. Buffalo, KC, Philly, Dallas, and San Fran. The rest are maybe average at best and mostly just gawd awful garbage. This is the weakest NFL I've seen in my lifetime.

As such, an interesting development is occurring. Dak Prescott might be the best QB of the NFC teams that make the playoffs. Seriously.

Unless Rodgers or Brady figure out how to resurrect their catatonic teams, the candidates are Jalen Hurts, Jimmy Garoppolo, Kirk Cousins, Daniel Jones, Geno Smith, Marcus Mariota, Matt Stafford, and Dak Prescott.

Rodgers, Brady, and Stafford seem to be on the outside looking in. All three are running for their lives. So Dak and Cousins might the class of the NFC playoffs.

So attrition aside - and injuries will decide much of this - the Cowboys' ability to run the ball and play defense is quite formidable, along with Dak and his tight-end trio of goodness. Another wide receiver is unnecessary.

San Francisco is the scariest if they get it figured out. Philly is half good and half fraudulent because of a cupcake schedule, and none of the rest concern me in the least. Again, attrition aside.

Let Buffalo and KC laugh at the NFC for now; here's hoping the Cowboys can earn a chance to try them. Not a team in the NFL wants to go against this Dallas front if it's healthy come playoff time.

My intent is not to throw a wet blanket on your observation, but does it matter? Let's say he is the best QB in the NFC come playoff time. The best team is what matters.

I still think Brady and Rodgers are the best two QBs in the NFC, what good is that doing them now? If we can't stop that damned RPO, it's not going to matter what QB we have.
 

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The QB of the Cowboys is not worried about all that fluff. Just you.
What QB in the NFC do you consider elite? It's a simple question that you tried to side step instead of answering. So you rather be clever instead of giving your honest opinion.
 

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I think Dak is a good QB, but not close to being the best in the NFC…at least not at this juncture. Dak needs a supporting cast to be successful; whereas that is not a requirement for elite QBs.
I didn't say he was the best QB in the NFC.
 

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My intent is not to throw a wet blanket on your observation, but does it matter? Let's say he is the best QB in the NFC come playoff time. The best team is what matters.

I still think Brady and Rodgers are the best two QBs in the NFC, what good is that doing them now? If we can't stop that damned RPO, it's not going to matter what QB we have.

Holy cow look at the logic…who would’ve thought that Brady and Rodgers couldn’t elevate their teams to greatness without a supporting cast.
 

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is this guy an actor on some show, or just anonymous?
 

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Jimmy Garoppolo has a passer rating of 74.1 with 962 yards (137yds/game), 4 touchdowns and 6 interceptions, 60.8% completion % in 6 games in the playoffs in his career. In 5 out of 6 playoff games Garoppalo had a lower QB rating than his opponent. He has only been able to achieve a QB rating above 90 once in 6 games.

A perfect example of the fact that teams win games, especially in the post season, not QBs
It’s also important to not just base our analysis on stats alone because when we watch the games they can reveal some big plays that can often influence the outcome .
 

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Fun fact, in his 4 playoff wins, Jimmy has exactly 1 total td. In a game they won 27-10

In their sb run, he completed 17 passes for 200 yards COMBINED in their 2 wins.

Last season he threw zero tds in their 2 wins. That's not proven success, he played no part in their victories.
I disagree. He did play some part in their victories. Watching the games I recall him making some throws that sustained drives . While he’s not a difference maker QB he does enough and doesn’t usually make crucial mistakes doing what’s needed. A winning culture can be infectious .
 
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They also have CMac which greatly improves their offense. Gerapollo is also a very underrated QB. They drafted Trey Lance and he hasn't even sniffed the starting QB position in a long while.
Yea and even when Lance started this year SF wasn’t as effective. Once Jimmy G came back in they appeared to get back in stride.

He seems to help bring a winning culture despite not being needed to deliver big production.
 
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