RELEASED Cowboys release James Washington

[Doomsday101]

But its not. It's all tied together. If you take an existing player to replace another existing player and then replace that open spot with a lesser player than they other two, you've taken a step back.

The discussion isn't about the #1 WR. It's about the WRs in general. The Cowboys took a step back at WR in 2022. Which is the point. Sure, Lamb replaced Cooper's production but then who did they tap to replace Lamb's production? Washington.

ok, and you expect Dallas to pay over 20 mill for a #2 WR? lol As you said Lamb has filled that void of the #1 WR. I agree we have not filled #2 but you don't pay out that kind of cash for a #2

 

[Hawkeye19]

and Cowboys attempted that, Brandon Cook but deal feel through. In the end Lamb has filled the #1 WR role, backup WR have not played as well as I hoped from Tolbert to Washington. Cowboys did not sit back and do nothing, they went out and got Hilton. To get someone of Cooper caliber would have cost Dallas a lot and you are trying to fill #2 role not the #1 role, so the question in my mind is why would I want to overpay the #2 WR spot? To me that would make no sense to pay out over 20 mill for a #2 WR

They signed Gallup thinking he would be back to form and could be #2 and Washington could be #3 with Tolbert contributing.

Wrong on all counts. Trying to trade for Cooks and signing OBJ and finally inking Hilton all amount to throwing mashed potatoes against the wall and hoping something sticks.

Hilton actually appears to be able to still play which is a bonus— but getting lucky there does not affirm their offseason strategy regarding Coop and the cluster cuss that has ensued from that bad decision

 

[G2]

ok, and you expect Dallas to pay over 20 mill for a #2 WR? lol As you said Lamb has filled that void of the #1 WR. I agree we have not filled #2 but you don't pay out that kind of cash for a #2

Production is down from last season, but it's marginal when you consider Prescott was out this season. Rush just didn't pass a lot. That and they seem to have balanced the pass with the run a little better this year. I agree with your salary point.

 

[G2]

They signed Gallup thinking he would be back to form and could be #2 and Washington could be #3 with Tolbert contributing.

Wrong on all counts. Trying to trade for Cooks and signing OBJ and finally inking Hilton all amount to throwing mashed potatoes against the wall and hoping something sticks.

Hilton actually appears to be able to still play which is a bonus— but getting lucky there does not affirm their offseason strategy regarding Coop and the cluster cuss that has ensued from that bad decision

How do you know what they were thinking? Seems like Dallas has done a significantly better job with position depth than recent past.
I'd argue that we would be singing a much different tune had Prescott not been out for so many games in terms of WR production. It's really not debatable compared to what we got from Rush. I didn't particularly like letting Amari go, but I understand why.

 

[Doomsday101]

They signed Gallup thinking he would be back to form and could be #2 and Washington could be #3 with Tolbert contributing.

Wrong on all counts. Trying to trade for Cooks and signing OBJ and finally inking Hilton all amount to throwing mashed potatoes against the wall and hoping something sticks.

Hilton actually appears to be able to still play which is a bonus— but getting lucky there does not affirm their offseason strategy regarding Coop and the cluster cuss that has ensued from that bad decision

Gallup is a 3 year deal, he is coming off an ACL less than a year removed be more than happy to judge the move on him next season. Again Cooper contract was the main factor. You seem to breeze right by that, but this team over was the cap heading into March leaving them with few options. Dallas was never going to play 20 plus for a friecknen #2 WR. It is not a knock of Cooper he is justified as a #1 WR but that is the role that Lamb took over, it is the role the Cowboys wanted him to take over when they drafted him as a high 1st rd pick. Lastly the cook deal was not throwing anything it was done before trade deadline in Oct.

 

[Rockport]

But its not. It's all tied together. If you take an existing player to replace another existing player and then replace that open spot with a lesser player than they other two, you've taken a step back.

The discussion isn't about the #1 WR. It's about the WRs in general. The Cowboys took a step back at WR in 2022. Which is the point. Sure, Lamb replaced Cooper's production but then who did they tap to replace Lamb's production? Washington.

Well if that’s the question then they did take a step back. They tried to address it but then Washington got hurt and apparently when he did get back he wasn’t the answer. A swing and a miss. Gilbert’s been a swing and a miss so far as well. Gallup still hasn’t been the same since he’s ACL injury. Browns been ok but drops too many balls and his route running needs help. You could make an argument that Pollard and the TE’s have made up the difference. Hard to make a total comparison to last year because Dak missed 5 games and with Rush they focused on the run game and strong defense.

 

[Hawkeye19]

How do you know what they were thinking? Seems like Dallas has done a significantly better job with position depth than recent past.
I'd argue that we would be singing a much different tune had Prescott not been out for so many games in terms of WR production. It's really not debatable compared to what we got from Rush. I didn't particularly like letting Amari go, but I understand why.

They told us what they were thinking: they signed Gallup, Washington, and drafted Tolbert and talked those moves up with positive spin. You can go look at the articles and quotes for yourself.

Then their actions have told us all year long that we have issues at WR. This is not rocket science lol… they have been trying to trade or sign somebody to help, and have finally landed on Hilton.

The defense and running game have been great— and Dak and the passing game are not “broken” by any stretch— but I think not having Coop (or an equivalent talent) has ultimately cost us the #1 seed considering how well Philly has played this year

 

[Doomsday101]

They told us what they were thinking: they signed Gallup, Washington, and drafted Tolbert and talked those moves up with positive spin. You can go look at the articles and quotes for yourself.

Then their actions have told us all year long that we have issues at WR. This is not rocket science lol… they have been trying to trade or sign somebody to help, and have finally landed on Hilton.

The defense and running game have been great— and Dak and the passing game are not “broken” by any stretch— but I think not having Coop (or an equivalent talent) has ultimately cost us the #1 seed considering how well Philly has played this year

and purely hypothetical. to say we would be anything other than 12-4 right now. May as well say we would be 17 and 0

 

[Runwildboys]

Lol… that trade looked horrid to begin with. Now it has eclipsed the Joey Galloway and Roy Williams moves as an all time blunder.

Jerry and Stephen traded away an asset we needed, and utterly failed to replace that production because they let their emotions (once again) make their decisions

Well, he got injured before he had a chance to get involved in the offense, so calling it a blunder might be a bit off.

 

[Runwildboys]

Yeah we're not GMs because we didn't have the funds to buy the Cowboys.

We're also not a VP of Personnel because we're not the son of the Owner/GM.

Hey, if you were good enough, that wouldn't matter!

 

[TheCoolFan]

They'll probably bring him back in the offseason...too much potential!

 

[Hawkeye19]

Well, he got injured before he had a chance to get involved in the offense, so calling it a blunder might be a bit off.

Its not like his projected ceiling was high based on his numbers from Pitt. This was a “maybe he just needs a change of scenery” signing all the way.

Which in Dallas is second only to the trusted “draft an injured number one talent in the second round” move

 

[Rockport]

Its not like his projected ceiling was high based on his numbers from Pitt. This was a “maybe he just needs a change of scenery” signing all the way.

Which in Dallas is second only to the trusted “draft an injured number one talent in the second round” move

No it was a “he didn’t get to show his talent playing with a washed up QB” signing.

 

[Sydla]

ok, and you expect Dallas to pay over 20 mill for a #2 WR? lol As you said Lamb has filled that void of the #1 WR. I agree we have not filled #2 but you don't pay out that kind of cash for a #2

No. My point is the Cowboys did an inadequate job of filling out the WR roster after they dumped Cooper. I don't have a problem, persay, in dumping Cooper. I have a problem thinking they could just get Washington and think that would fix things. I also think they got taken to the cleaners in the trade.

 

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

1.Cee Dee Lamb
2.TY Hilton
3 Michael Gallup
4.Noah Brown
5. Turpin

Look for something else to piss about because this ain't it

 

[Runwildboys]

Its not like his projected ceiling was high based on his numbers from Pitt. This was a “maybe he just needs a change of scenery” signing all the way.

Which in Dallas is second only to the trusted “draft an injured number one talent in the second round” move

It was $800 grand, or something like that. He was never meant to be a focal point of the offense. It's a far cry from Galloway or Williams, both of whom were going to be "saviors". Washington was disposable from the start, though had he not gotten injured, I'm sure he would've been at least some help.

 

[Doomsday101]

No. My point is the Cowboys did an inadequate job of filling out the WR roster after they dumped Cooper. I don't have a problem, persay, in dumping Cooper. I have a problem thinking they could just get Washington and think that would fix things. I also think they got taken to the cleaners in the trade.

Yes Dallas got a FA in Washington and it did not pan out. Burn the building down. An NFL team who got a FA who did not pan out. Never heard anything like that. lol On the trade yes I agree Cowboys should have been able to get more, much better than a 5th rd. Yet despite that the Cowboys are sitting at 12-4 heading to post season, to act as if this team has done nothing right is pure fiction.

 

[ghst187]

With a name like Washington, guess we shouldn’t have believed he would help us

 

[phildadon86]

You're an angry fellow, lol.

I noticed you don't actually post anything that contradicts things I write, you just get indignant that I and others don't accept every accusation you make.

What I get about being on his yacht at that time is the aesthetics aren't good, but it's plain false to suggest he can't conduct any business he wants from his yacht.

As for not signing anyone that first week of free agency, it's not abnormal for the Cowboys to not jump into the feeding frenzy that first week. They usually sit on the sidelines with free agency right away even when Jerry is in Frisco. They did, however, sign Fowler early in the 2nd week of free agency, so obviously they were talking in the 1st week.

Not angry at all. It is just funny that people like you believe that Jerry actually cares. I bet you believed him last season when he was “angry” after the niners loss. And I’m not indignant either. I just have my point of view. Wrong or right I don’t really care. It’s my opinion lol. Imagine getting destroyed in the trenches for years and still doing nothing to solve that problem via the draft or FA and believing Jerry cares about anything other than jersey sales

 

[Hawkeye19]

It was $800 grand, or something like that. He was never meant to be a focal point of the offense. It's a far cry from Galloway or Williams, both of whom were going to be "saviors". Washington was disposable from the start, though had he not gotten injured, I'm sure he would've been at least some help.

My point is the blunder with the Cooper decision overall is at the Galloway/Williams level.

They thought they would replace his production with a bunch of minor moves and they were wrong.

What would this offense look like with another 1000+ yard WR on it?