Giants sign Daniel Jones (4 years/$160 million)

[Nav22]

Yes, they are stupid for those signings. None of them will pay off at the end with any Super Bowl wins.

Way to go out on a limb! 99% of QBs will never win a ring as a starter.

 

[JoeKing]

This is great news. It insures the gnats will remain very beatable by the Cowboys for years to come.

 

[cowboys1732]

I’ll be honest — I didn’t pay much attention to Jones’ numbers last season. Am I reading his stat line right — 15 passing TDs in 16 games?

Crazy part is 15 looks to be a season high since 2019.

Yep you are. I was just getting ready to post that he threw for 15 TD”s last season.

 

[Adreme]

He’s as good or better than Dak.

They’re at worst similar as passers and Jones is a much better runner.

They are similar passers in the same way a 10 year old kia is the same as a 2023 BMW. You would not find a GM who would honestly tell you, even the Giants GM if he could say it anonymously, that Daniel Jones is even as good as Dak. Not a single one.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Cowboys and the rest of the NFC rejoice! Crumpets, biscuits and tea all around.
Me fear was they would draft Will Levis, Kentucky to bedevil us in tandem with Deek.

Giants will, at best, have a bus driver, nothing more, until 2025.

Speaking of which, me dudes, We need to invest in the future by drafting in round 3 Tanner McKee, QB Stanford!

 

[DandyDon52]

Remember when the Cowboys were "SO STUPID" for paying Dak a big contract similar to the ones that Daniel Jones, Derek Carr and Geno Smith just signed?

The Giants, Saints and Seahawks are all run by a bunch of idiots too though, right????

Has ANY group of people consistently looked more dense than the Anti-Dak Cult Members?

Lets see if your still laughing when we see daks extension numbers.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Galloday was a pro bowler before getting to NY and Engram had his best season ever after leaving…Jones has made the good players they had look bad.

He needs help too, but he’s in a lower tier of QBs.

Seems as if you're saying that the QB's performance directly effects even the best receivers? Now go figure why we havent thrown money on a receiver, could well be that the FO's not convinced of the performance uptick (in comparison to the upgrade by spending the CAP making incremental improvements throughout the roster).

 

[CowboyoWales]

Way to go out on a limb! 99% of QBs will never win a ring as a starter.

Then take into account how many QB's win Rings on Rookie contract (or small CAP Hits) and it makes you wonder, if the goal is to win a SB, why any team extends a QB outside of the ELITE few.

A Dak, Jones, Carr, Cousins, Tannehill will take you so far but arent able to take the next step.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Lets see if your still laughing when we see daks extension numbers.

Yep, but the paradox is that the only realistic way of competing is when Dak extends and we can kick money down the road into signing bonus. Big contracts are cyclical, in Dak's case, the real window to compete was in the years 2021 and 2022, however, we were chasing our tail as the CAP situation was so dire.
@cnuball21, this is the real reason why you cant/shouldnt restructure all of our contracts this year in a vain attempt compete (whist Da's contract is so high AND WE'RE KICKING MONEY INTO THE VOID 2025 YEAR).......If we kick the money (to free up a net $40m on FA's) then the VOID year which is already over 7% of the CAP gets increased that it wipes out the benefit of the cheap Dak restructure.

 

[b0xZZ]

Better than Dak.

Yep, Jones is vastly underrated and this is a solid deal for the Giants. Dak on the other hand is regressing and is a mental wreck.

 

[Starforever]

Daniel Jones being better than Dak? No one should ever agree or give any interest to these posters. The asinine statements must stop.

It is understandable that you don't like Dak, but if Jones were on this team, the same posters would be irate with his play.

Let me try, currently, Zeke is just as good or better than Henry.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Daniel Jones being better than Dak? No one should ever agree or give any interest to these posters. The asinine statements must stop.

It is understandable that you don't like Dak, but if Jones were on this team, the same posters would be irate with his play.

Let me try, currently, Zeke is just as good or better than Henry.

It's somewhat immaterial whether Dak is better than Jones, it's the fact that QB's on high CAP% deals creates a 1 or 2 year window.

 

[Denim Chicken]

It's somewhat immaterial whether Dak is better than Jones, it's the fact that QB's on high CAP% deals creates a 1 or 2 year window.

I don't think Maholmes window is closing anytime soon.

 

[Hadenough]

That's a lot of money for Jones. It's a shame Dak set the bar for mediocrity. Oh well The rest of the league is laughing at the NFC east.

 

[Whyjerry]

Has Jones had 2-3 future hall of fame offensive lineman blocking for him? Over the 7 years Prescott has been quarterback of the Cowboys the level of quality around him is on a completely different level. The Giants have had some pretty good receivers but it has been irrelevant because the o line was paper thin. We all remember how badly Prescott plays with a banged up o line - Jones has had a gash line for years until this season when it was just about serviceable in some games. If Prescott was drafted in the 4th round by the Giants then he wouldn't even be in the league next season.

3 future hall of famers? Who? Martin, Smith and ???. How many games has Smith missed since Dak came in? Who could this 3 Hall of Famer be? Did we all forget about Jerry’s circus tent and the negative impact of Garrett and Moore? Those don’t count? It’s always Dak with you clowns. Spin away…

 

[Whyjerry]

Dak had one of the leagues best OLs, RB and WR corps for several years and yet still has only won a couple of wildcard games.

Best RB and WRs? Best OL. In 20 and 21 that OL was a joke. Zeke hasn’t been good in years. WRs? Please. You guys still putting Cooper in the Hall to justify the Dak bashing? Did we forget about why they traded for Cooper? Spin away…

 

[CowboyoWales]

I don't think Maholmes window is closing anytime soon.

Indeed, he's that elite QB that the Chiefs can rely upon to up his game to offset the losses within the rest of the roster (due to his high CAP%).

 

[Jarv]

Well Jones and Dak lead their respective teams to the same round in the playoffs. Neither one will probably get any farther than that.

 

[cnuball21]

Has Jones had 2-3 future hall of fame offensive lineman blocking for him? Over the 7 years Prescott has been quarterback of the Cowboys the level of quality around him is on a completely different level. The Giants have had some pretty good receivers but it has been irrelevant because the o line was paper thin. We all remember how badly Prescott plays with a banged up o line - Jones has had a gash line for years until this season when it was just about serviceable in some games. If Prescott was drafted in the 4th round by the Giants then he wouldn't even be in the league next season.

Our pass block win rate was outside the top 30 this past season…The years of prime Tyron and Fred are long gone.
Our OL win rates were within 1-3 % of the Giants this past year.

Is DJ supposed to elevate his team or does he get excuses that Dak isn’t allowed to use around here?

 

[cnuball21]

Seems as if you're saying that the QB's performance directly affects even the best receivers? Now go figure why we havent thrown money on a receiver, could well be that the FO's not convinced of the performance uptick (in comparison to the upgrade by spending the CAP making incremental improvements throughout the roster).

Huh?

We were in trade discussions with Cooks last year and tried to sign OBJ last year after realizing the front office messed up with the WR room.

I’m saying DJ is not that good. Which is why WRs he’s played with have been better elsewhere.