Eagles re-sign Jalen Hurts

[kskboys]

I am aware. So, it was really a $133 guaranteed or max $175 out of $290. Do the %'s. All less than 70%.

That was only the last offer. Lamar was insisting on 100% guaranteed money, so they offered him 3 years/133 mil.

The previous offer guaranteed 200 mil.

Anyone screaming collusion has had their argument now blown completely out of the water. That argument was lame to begin w/.

 

[Diehardblues]

There are only 8-15 competent QBs. W/ 32 teams, that is a scarcity.

Right

There’s basically two types of NFL teams . You’re either looking for your next Franchise QB or trying to surround one you had to overpay. Lol

 

[Chuck 54]

He won’t see that money.

Oh, he will see every Penny + more. It just won’t count against the cap. Just like Hurts is seeing super huge money right now, but lots as bonuses and incentives, so it’s not all on the cap. We fans get too caught up in the numbers shared by the media. A guy might get 65 million in a year but only count 40 vs the cap.

 

[Diehardblues]

That was only the last offer. Lamar was insisting on 100% guaranteed money, so they offered him 3 years/133 mil.

The previous offer guaranteed 200 mil.

Anyone screaming collusion has had their argument now blown completely out of the water. That argument was lame to begin w/.

I salute what the Ravens are doing . More teams should play hardball. And be prepared to walk away.

In the end they will fall into the abyss of being a team looking for a Franchise QB or having one they overpaid . Lol

 

[kskboys]

Oh, he will see every Penny + more. It just won’t count against the cap. Just like Hurts is seeing super huge money right now, but lots as bonuses and incentives, so it’s not all on the cap. We fans get too caught up in the numbers shared by the media. A guy might get 65 million in a year but only count 40 vs the cap.

If Hurts continues playing well, he will get every penny, even over and above the guarantees.

 

[Diehardblues]

Oh, he will see every Penny + more. It just won’t count against the cap. Just like Hurts is seeing super huge money right now, but lots as bonuses and incentives, so it’s not all on the cap. We fans get too caught up in the numbers shared by the media. A guy might get 65 million in a year but only count 40 vs the cap.

Right. The signing bonus is a huge part of the contract. We should be more focused on the Cap hits. Which isn’t what the media usually reveals.

 

[Sandyf]

It comes down to when you sign the QB. Hurts received a 5 yr extension meaning the total deal is 7 years and therefore that is why the first couple of years are so cheap. The Jones could have done that with Dak when he was up for an extension in his 3rd year but decided to play hard ball and it cost them. If I remember correctly at the time he wanted an $125 million extension which would have made it a 7 year deal (3rd and 4th year of original contract then 5 more years) instead he played out his contract then franchised for one year at something like $31 million then signed a 4 year $160 million deal. His total earning after the contract will be at around $194 million for 9 years.

$194 million is a lot but just over what Hurts is making on his total guarantees, $36 million less than Watson's guarantees and with Jackson, Burrows and Herbert contract probably done this summer which all will be far more than Dak's money.

Many fans aren't going to like it but sometime over the next 12 months, Jerry is going to have to extend Dak and the longer they wait the more it is going to cost. $160 million for 4 years is going to look cheap by then.

 

[Flamma]

It comes down to when you sign the QB. Hurts received a 5 yr extension meaning the total deal is 7 years and therefore that is why the first couple of years are so cheap. The Jones could have done that with Dak when he was up for an extension in his 3rd year but decided to play hard ball and it cost them. If I remember correctly at the time he wanted an $125 million extension which would have made it a 7 year deal (3rd and 4th year of original contract then 5 more years) instead he played out his contract then franchised for one year at something like $31 million then signed a 4 year $160 million deal. His total earning after the contract will be at around $194 million for 9 years.

$194 million is a lot but just over what Hurts is making on his total guarantees, $36 million less than Watson's guarantees and with Jackson, Burrows and Herbert contract probably done this summer which all will be far more than Dak's money.

Many fans aren't going to like it but sometime over the next 12 months, Jerry is going to have to extend Dak and the longer they wait the more it is going to cost. $160 million for 4 years is going to look cheap by then.

LOL dude, what are you talking about? Hurts didn't get a 7 year deal. Hurts was not a first round pick. He got a 5 year deal starting in 2024, running through 2028.

 

[Ken]

No he wasn't. He wasn't even a top 10 reason they lost. He WAS a top 3 reason they nearly won it.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

QB salaries are compensator to the increasing Salary Cap which is driven by the growing Revenue.

There’s no crisis. It’s actually an indication that the NFL is becoming even more profitable.

And personal wealth amongst the wealthiest in the US and throughout the world is increasing as well. It’s simple economics .

Of course, I'm not disputing that. I'm just pointing out that it seems that there seems to be a trend starting where groups are buying teams now, which has been done for a long time in the Premier League. I think it shows the profitability of the NFL that massive groups such as Walmart are wanting to buy NFL teams now.

 

[Diehardblues]

Of course, I'm not disputing that. I'm just pointing out that it seems that there seems to be a trend starting where groups are buying teams now, which has been done for a long time in the Premier League. I think it shows the profitability of the NFL that massive groups such as Walmart are wanting to buy NFL teams now.

Well, it could be there are just a limited amount of qualified buyers now to purchase multi-billion dollar professional franchises.

 

[TWOK11]

What's his pronounced weakness?

Statistically he’s significantly below average when asked to perform a traditional drop back and read a defense conventionally. The vast majority of his production comes outside the pocket and on RPOs with a very limited, predetermined progression.

 

[SuperBowlz]

Statistically he’s significantly below average when asked to perform a traditional drop back and read a defense conventionally. The vast majority of his production comes outside the pocket and on RPOs with a very limited, predetermined progression.

Gotcha!

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Well, it could be there are just a limited amount of qualified buyers now to purchase multi-billion dollar professional franchises.

Fur sure, that's certainly a likely case as well, in conjunction with what I was saying.

 

[NotForLong]

The point stands. In a league where teams are desperate for starting QBs, Rush got a whopping 2 year deal for $5 million total.

Wrong . . . QBs are a dime a dozen. Cooper has value for the Cowboys because of the time He has put in and His Intelligence.

In the Age of the Athletic QB intelligence is a Factor that is sorely lacking. Cooper excels in this (Even Dak had to confess that He was learning from Him)

I am not sure what advantage Cooper will bring to a New McCarthy System. Will there be a learning curve? Will he excel in a West Coast system? He produced when called upon and I am happy He is back

Having said that. . . I am more interested in the development of Will Grier's and if The Cowboys select a QB in the Draft

I feel all bets are off and the best will be given the Reigns . . . If Dak falters I feel He will spend time on the bench

Dak physically is superior but His brain cracks under the pressure . . . His Safety blanket is in San Diego and Big Mike is fighting for His Coaching Job and or Reputation

It is gonna be interesting

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Wrong . . . QBs are a dime a dozen. Cooper has value for the Cowboys because of the time He has put in and His Intelligence.

In the Age of the Athletic QB intelligence is a Factor that is sorely lacking. Cooper excels in this (Even Dak had to confess that He was learning from Him)

I am not sure what advantage Cooper will bring to a New McCarthy System. Will there be a learning curve? Will he excel in a West Coast system? He produced when called upon and I am happy He is back

Having said that. . . I am more interested in the development of Will Grier's and if The Cowboys select a QB in the Draft

I feel all bets are off and the best will be given the Reigns . . . If Dak falters I feel He will spend time on the bench

Dak physically is superior but His brain cracks under the pressure . . . His Safety blanket is in San Diego and Big Mike is fighting for His Coaching Job and or Reputation

It is gonna be interesting

Kellen Moore was his safety blanket or are you talking about Dalton Schultz? Big Mike isn’t fighting for his job….if he loses his job this season it was because he had already lost it to Quinn.

 

[NotForLong]

Kellen Moore was his safety blanket or are you talking about Dalton Schultz? Big Mike isn’t fighting for his job….if he loses his job this season it was because he had already lost it to Quinn.

Through all the change Kellen has been the one constant. . . .If Big Mike makes it to the Super Bowl and or Wins it. He will go down as a Legend and be given a Lucrative Extension or He May leave on His own terms and still be Given a Lucrative Contract

Big Mike is fighting for His Life and the Status Quo is out the Window.

The Dak Experiment had reached its course and it will be sink or swim . . . West Coast Is so simple even a Cave Man "Can do it"

We will see

 

[DallasEast]

The Dak Experiment had reached its course...

A mad scientist, who goes by the name Jerry Von Frankenstein, may disagree with you.

 

[NotForLong]

A mad scientist, who goes by the name Jerry Von Frankenstein, may disagree with you.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Statistically he’s significantly below average when asked to perform a traditional drop back and read a defense conventionally. The vast majority of his production comes outside the pocket and on RPOs with a very limited, predetermined progression.

This is a parroted stereotype of any QB who can run. On plays where he was asked to stay in the pocket, Hurts had the greatest passer rating in the entire league:



Now you can argue what may have inflated that number to be #1, but he’s significantly below average in the pocket? Cmon.