Eagles re-sign Jalen Hurts

[Hypotenoose]

Once again underscoring how crazy the QB market is. Surely fans understand that the scarcity of QB talent in this league is dictating market prices. Not what QBs have acccomplished.

Why is there a scarcity? It would seem that today‘s game is much more QB friendly. Are colleges not growing NFL QB talent?

 

[Spottswoode]

Josh Rosen sucked. Johnny Manziel sucked. And Pat Mahomes got better getting the hell away from him.

And just to be clear on your Josh Rosen hot sports opinion, when was it that he coach him again? Your other 2 examples are just nutty. It’s fine to hate Manziel the person, he was nutty like your hot sports opinion.

 

[McKDaddy]

The report said the Ravens offered Jackson guaranteed $133 million at signing, $175 million if he got injured, and $200 million springing guarantee if he is on the roster on the fifth day of 2026 league year

I am aware. So, it was really a $133 guaranteed or max $175 out of $290. Do the %'s. All less than 70%.

 

[buybuydandavis]

What if Prescott now holds out for a new deal?

Dak didn't hold out last time.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The difference is we waited until Dak had us over a barrel. The Eagles are being proactive and it works to their benefit. They are getting him for the next 7 years at the current going rate but the hits don't really kick in until the 3rd year. Meanwhile we let Dak play out his deal, then franchised him, which meant from the get go he was getting the current rate.

They did this with Carson Wentz…proactive….

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Why is there a scarcity? It would seem that today‘s game is much more QB friendly. Are colleges not growing NFL QB talent?

There’s still only about 10-12 good and great quarterbacks in this league and that may be generous…. The position is tough to play.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Ok…I appreciate the feedback, I didn’t realize. Manziel under Kingsbury was the first freshman ever to win the Heisman. Recruited Mahomes to Tech and he left Tech with 22 FBS records and was a R1 draft pick. If you like, I can add Case Keenam who did pretty good while they were at Houston. He had a few accomplishments like becoming the NCAA’s all time leader in passing yards, TD’s, and completions, passed for over 5000 yards in 3 seasons, and numerous other awards, and was snubbed for the Heisman. Not sure what Rosen has to do with anything. And I guarantee neither Mahomes or Manziel share your hot sports opinion. Mahomes has talked about the influence Kingsbury had on him many times and Manziel wasn’t the same once Kingsbury left.

Look I’m not saying Kingsbury didn’t help him along the way but I sure as hell am not giving him credit for Mahomes. With Andy Reid he looks like one of the best quarterbacks of all time. If looked like this at tech he would’ve been first overall not getting picked after Mitch Tribusky.

And did the qb guru Kliff Kingsbury not coach Josh Rosen?

And what did Johnny Football do in the NFL? Isn’t he playing in a fantasy league with Terrell Owens?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And just to be clear on your Josh Rosen hot sports opinion, when was it that he coach him again? Your other 2 examples are just nutty. It’s fine to hate Manziel the person, he was nutty like your hot sports opinion.

It’s a hot sports opinion to say Josh Rosen and Johnny Football sucked? That’s nutty? Crazy…just wow.

 

[Cowboys1966]

I’m not evaluating hurst at all. Just simply saying he had an easy ride. Didn’t have to do squat.
only dumb thing is your inability to understand a simple point.

and no any qb doesn’t win that game. Any qb surrounded by what hurts was surrounded by probably. And now maybe you understand my point better.

Dude are you simple?

The entire team had an easy ride because their defence knocked out every qb. How is that a black mark against hurts.

Obviously I meant any qb, IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, wins that game.

I give up dude. You must be the most hate filled hard headed poster on this board.

 

[Cowboys1966]

Dallas Goedert thru ‘25
Devonta Smith thru ‘25

Mailata thru ‘25
Dickerson thru ‘24 and he’ll get extended
Kelce done after this year. Cam Jurgens will take over when he’s gone
Cam Jurgens or Skronski if he gets picked
Lane Johnson thru ‘27

wait till we see the number of void years. A lot of this contract may not hit the cap till his third contract with the eagles.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dude are you simple?

The entire team had an easy ride because their defence knocked out every qb. How is that a black mark against hurts.

Obviously I meant any qb, IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, wins that game.

I give up dude. You must be the most hate filled hard headed poster on this board.

He is hard headed for sure lol. He’s not the most hate filled though I’ll give him that.

 

[Spottswoode]

Look I’m not saying Kingsbury didn’t help him along the way but I sure as hell am not giving him credit for Mahomes. With Andy Reid he looks like one of the best quarterbacks of all time. If looked like this at tech he would’ve been first overall not getting picked after Mitch Tribusky.

And did the qb guru Kliff Kingsbury not coach Josh Rosen?

And what did Johnny Football do in the NFL? Isn’t he playing in a fantasy league with Terrell Owens?

No he didn’t coach Josh Rosen. He when he got to Arizona he traded Josh Rosen to Miami and drafted Murray.

I saw every game he played at Tech and he played with the same style. He was like the 400th prospect from a tiny high school in Whitewright, Tx. At Tech he threw for almost 10,000 yards and 77 TD’s his soph & junior year and then went pro. Teams had concerns with his style and if it would translate. If you look at his draft profile, you will see those concerns. And they have translated to the pro’s just fine.

And I never said Kingsbury deserved all the credit for Mahomes, that’s you backtracking. No college coach deserves all the credit for any pro’s success. And you didn’t say he helped him along the way. You said he got better when he got the hell away from him. Here is a hot sports opinion, most every player drafted gets better in the pro’s. Mahomes has spoken publically about the influence Kingsbury had on him and I have heard numerous stories at various booster events.

And what does Manziel’s pro career have to do with Kingsbury? Kingsbury coached him exactly 1 year…his freshman year. And that year, he became the first freshman to win the Heisman. And he wasn’t the same when Kingsbury left.

Lincoln Riley at USC just hired him as an offensive analyst and QB coach. Here is what was said about the hire:

Kingsbury should be well suited to fill this new role. A prolific college quarterback at Texas Tech, he has accumulated an extensive list of accomplished passers who have spent time under his tutelage. He has worked with Patrick Mahomes and Baker Mayfield at Texas Tech, Johnny Manziel at Texas A&M and Kyler Murray with the Cardinals, earning a reputation along the way as an Air Raid passing expert and developer of quarterbacks.

Lastly, USC hired him in 2019 and 34 days later he spurned them to take the Cardinals job and they still hired him back.

It’s ok to hate Kingsbury or the players but it’s intellectually dishonest to let false claims mask the facts.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

AJ Brown signed thru ‘26
Dallas Goedert thru ‘25
Devonta Smith thru ‘25

Mailata thru ‘25
Dickerson thru ‘24 and he’ll get extended
Kelce done after this year. Cam Jurgens will take over when he’s gone
Cam Jurgens or Skronski if he gets picked
Lane Johnson thru ‘27

Have you seen Goedert cap hits? 19 million? Good luck. Aj Brown too…gotta do some extensions…

 

[Cowboys1966]

He is hard headed for sure lol. He’s not the most hate filled though I’ll give him that.

Lol, He always seems to be fighting with someone.

 

[Spottswoode]

It’s a hot sports opinion to say Josh Rosen and Johnny Football sucked? That’s nutty? Crazy…just wow.

No…but it is a nutty hot sports opinion to indicate that Kingsbury had something to do with either one of them sucking. He had as much influence on Rosen as he did Johnny Unitas and the 1 year he coached Manziel, he won the Heisman. I don’t care if you hate both but you are backpedaling because you made a nutty comment about Kingsbury.….Just wow

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No he didn’t coach Josh Rosen. He when he got to Arizona he traded Josh Rosen to Miami and drafted Murray.

I saw every game he played at Tech and he played with the same style. He was like the 400th prospect from a tiny high school in Whitewright, Tx. At Tech he threw for almost 10,000 yards and 77 TD’s his soph & junior year and then went pro. Teams had concerns with his style and if it would translate. If you look at his draft profile, you will see those concerns. And they have translated to the pro’s just fine.

And I never said Kingsbury deserved all the credit for Mahomes, that’s you backtracking. No college coach deserves all the credit for any pro’s success. And you didn’t say he helped him along the way. You said he got better when he got the hell away from him. Here is a hot sports opinion, most every player drafted gets better in the pro’s. Mahomes has spoken publically about the influence Kingsbury had on him and I have heard numerous stories at various booster events.

And what does Manziel’s pro career have to do with Kingsbury? Kingsbury coached him exactly 1 year…his freshman year. And that year, he became the first freshman to win the Heisman. And he wasn’t the same when Kingsbury left.

Lincoln Riley at USC just hired him as an offensive analyst and QB coach. Here is what was said about the hire:

Kingsbury should be well suited to fill this new role. A prolific college quarterback at Texas Tech, he has accumulated an extensive list of accomplished passers who have spent time under his tutelage. He has worked with Patrick Mahomes and Baker Mayfield at Texas Tech, Johnny Manziel at Texas A&M and Kyler Murray with the Cardinals, earning a reputation along the way as an Air Raid passing expert and developer of quarterbacks.

Lastly, USC hired him in 2019 and 34 days later he spurned them to take the Cardinals job and they still hired him back.

It’s ok to hate Kingsbury or the players but it’s intellectually dishonest to let false claims mask the facts.

My mistake I thought Kliff came a year before Kyler did. My mistake I shouldn’t put that evil on Kliff.

It’s not “hate” I just don’t know what he did in the NFL worth a damn. You are speaking on everything he did in college. Did you read the reports of how much of a mess it was in Arizona? I’m only speaking about from what I read there. I don’t think anyone ever questioned him at tech though I have to say….how much success did tech have when he was there?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Lol, He always seems to be fighting with someone.

Oh he does. You can agree with him and he will fight with you…very odd.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No…but it is a nutty hot sports opinion to indicate that Kingsbury had something to do with either one of them sucking. He had as much influence on Rosen as he did Johnny Unitas and the 1 year he coached Manziel, he won the Heisman. I don’t care if you hate both but you are backpedaling because you made a nutty comment about Kingsbury.….Just wow

What comment was nutty? Which one are you referencing?

 

[Spottswoode]

My mistake I thought Kliff came a year before Kyler did. My mistake I shouldn’t put that evil on Kliff.

It’s not “hate” I just don’t know what he did in the NFL worth a damn. You are speaking on everything he did in college. Did you read the reports of how much of a mess it was in Arizona? I’m only speaking about from what I read there. I don’t think anyone ever questioned him at tech though I have to say….how much success did tech have when he was there?

I agreed in my original post that I felt like he was unprepared for a pro job...I felt that way when he took it and I think if proved to be true. I wasn’t sure his style of offense would translate and I thought if it didn’t, he might lose the team. But in his defense, they did go from 3-13 the year before he took over, to 5-10, to 11-6, to 4-13. I think he lost the team the last year and the writing was on the wall.

The point of my post was in relation to the comment that he didn’t do any favors to Murray. He may not be ready for a pro coaching job but he knows how to develop QB’s. He drafted Murray and I believe Murray won Rookie of the Year.

As far as how Tech did while he was there, Tech always struggles to recruit players to Lubbock when there are so many big programs in the state. Kingsbury didn’t have any problems getting offensive skill positions, especially QB’s and WR‘s. Those players wanted to play for him. The problem was they couldn’t recruit anyone on defense. If you are a good defensive prospect, why go to Tech. The only coaching types who have moved the needle at Tech have been offensive guru types like Kingsbury and Mike Leach. And their defenses were close to last in the nation.

 

[Spottswoode]

What comment was nutty? Which one are you referencing?

I shared something to the effect of Kingsbury having a strong history of QB development and listed Manziel and Mahomes as examples. Your comment back was that Manziel and Rosen suck and Mahomes couldn’t wait to get away from him. That sounded to me like you were suggesting that Kingsbury had something to do with them sucking. If I misinterpreted your meaning, my apologies.