News: PFN: Dak Prescott: The NFC's Best Quarterback and a Top-5 NFL QB at His Best

Mac_MaloneV1

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Josh Allen is a top-five NFL quarterback. Nobody in their right mind would argue that fact. His frame, arm, and athleticism make him a cheat code.

But in a world that hasn’t stopped talking about Prescott’s 15 interceptions, Allen’s league-leading 19 turnovers isn’t talked about nearly as much. Trevor Lawrence, who ranks above Prescott on a few lists out there, lost five more fumbles than any other QB and turned the ball over two more times than Prescott. Joe Burrow quietly had one less turnover than Prescott did.


Same exact thing I've said. Nobody cared when Stafford was leading the league in interceptions. Nobody cares that Josh Allen does it.

Great article. Gotta give credit where its due. Not the same crap over and over again.
Josh Allen was also awful in the red zone last year.

How long did we hear "Well Dak isn't good in the red zone where accuracy and decision making matter more blah blah blah"

Like Dak, however, Allen has been totally let down by the front office. Their offense is built so similarly to Dallas' its startling, and they are entirely dependent on hero ball from the QB
 

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He doesn't make the Chargers better by being on the field.
It's statements like this that undermine anything else you might say. About 30 other teams would love the opportunity to take him off the chargers hands.

Yes, it's a career failure that a QB hasn't taken an injury plagued, leadership challenged team to the SB in his first two full seasons.
 

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What I mean is people are saying Daniel Jones had a good season last year. He got 40 million so I'll assume this is him at his best(I don't think much of him so there's that lol). I believe last season was Dak at his worst. And the Cowboys offense was far more productive than Daniel Jones and yeah I get the limitations at certain skilled positions. Maybe Daniel has a bette year with Lamb. I can't say for sure because typically the less he throws the better.

But if last year was Dak at his worse and Daniel at his best? I'd rather have Dak. I'm limited with Daniel at QB.
Ok, if that is your preference that is fair. You acknowledged that Daniel didn't have much to work with in the passing game.

They seem to be adding some weapons though. I think there is a good chance their passing game is much better this year.
 

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Josh Allen was also awful in the red zone last year.

How long did we hear "Well Dak isn't good in the red zone where accuracy and decision making matter more blah blah blah"

Like Dak, however, Allen has been totally let down by the front office. Their offense is built so similarly to Dallas' its startling, and they are entirely dependent on hero ball from the QB

Man Josh Allen really goes under the radar I know it seemed like he does something boneheaded every time I watch him play but I don't watch all his games so I assumed maybe it was just coincidental.

They wasted all that money on Von Miller just not to have him in the playoff run. Gonna be interesting to see what they do with two tight end sets with Knox and Kincaid.
 

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OMG don't get me started on Herbert. He has people thinking the Chargers stink. He has a great receiving duo....very good running back...key pieces on defense....success is subjective but the guy has only made the playoffs once got kicked out by the Jags. I guess that's where I stand on him. I expected to see him do what Trevor Lawrence did and he hasn't. He doesn't make the Chargers better by being on the field. Yet, he has the reputation of Burrow.
If you can offer zero modern pocket run threat than you better ace pre-snaps reads and Herbert doesn't do that yet.
So he makes some pretty throws but he also ends up on the sideline pretty quick.

Lawrence really improved last year during the season in pre-snap reads and it made a huge difference in his game.
If you are 6'4"+ cannon armed QB you better know where you are throwing it early because it takes time to get the ball out.
You aren't going to Drew Brees it and see it then zip it fast break style.
 

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No, they made quite salient points that annoyed you because you disagree.

1. INTs are only half the TO score with fumbles being very much in play.
2. Stafford leading the league in INTs but winning a title meant no one cared he led the league in INT. It was the very next year and all any attention seeking talking head could bring up after ignoring that mark in 2021.

Dak put up good to great numbers across many metrics including points per game. And he did so with fewer offensive weapons then other people on the list.
Outside Mahomes every QB has holes in his game that can be attacked.
As good as Joey B is, he fumbles wayyyyyy too much. And it costs his team.
Josh is turnover prone for a career, not a season.
Herbert will beat you if a clean throw is there but if not he offers nothing but a punt and they tend to lose a lot.

Cowboys fans have no excuse to be so low info or to constantly bag on their own QB.
pretty much running your mouth for no reason again, I see

If you don't see the difference between leading the league in ints with 23 TDs and leading the league in picks with 41 TDs, I can't help you
 

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haha idk why people keep talk about josh allen

in the playoffs he losses to guy like patrick mahomes and joe burrow

dak losses to brock purdy and jimmy garapalo

they are not the same

the “best qb in the nfc” does not lose to brock purdy when the d give up less then 20 and that is after u throw 2 clown int
 

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Man Josh Allen really goes under the radar I know it seemed like he does something boneheaded every time I watch him play but I don't watch all his games so I assumed maybe it was just coincidental.

They wasted all that money on Von Miller just not to have him in the playoff run. Gonna be interesting to see what they do with two tight end sets with Knox and Kincaid.
Josh - and really some other quarterbacks - get the inverse treatment of Dak. Everyone talks about the highlights but ignores the goofs. I mean, imagine if Dak did this and lost a game..
 

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Ok, if that is your preference that is fair. You acknowledged that Daniel didn't have much to work with in the passing game.

They seem to be adding some weapons though. I think there is a good chance their passing game is much better this year.
Yeah he doesn't have the best skilled players. But I'm not sure if it matters for him.

At one point he had Toney, Golladay, Slayton, Shepard(injured) and Engram with Barkley..

People thought highly of Golladay until he went to play with him and now people think he's a bum.

But yeah I can admit that I do think he'd be better if he had Burrow's receivers or if he had Tua's receivers. But do I think he'd be better than Tua or Burrow? No.
 

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haha idk why people keep talk about josh allen

in the playoffs he losses to guy like patrick mahomes and joe burrow

dak losses to brock purdy and jimmy garapalo

they are not the same

the “best qb in the nfc” does not lose to brock purdy when the d give up less then 20 and that is after u throw 2 clown int
You guys don't tell the whole narrative.

He literally almost lost to Skylar Thompson last year lol. He sneaks by Skylar Thompson just to lose Burrow right afterwards. Year prior, he beats a Mac Jones led Patriots team to lose to Mahomes. Year prior to that he beats Lamar Jackson who couldn't throw worth a damn just to lose to Mahomes.

Are you seeing the trend yet? His whole playoff career is based on beating up Skylar Thompson and Mac Jones lol. Inferior guys to Purdy and Jimmy G btw.
 

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Josh - and really some other quarterbacks - get the inverse treatment of Dak. Everyone talks about the highlights but ignores the goofs. I mean, imagine if Dak did this and lost a game..

He does some of the dumbest stuff that I've ever seen. I'm not gonna lie to this day this is the dumbest thing I've ver seen him do and I don't even think the video does it justice. I forget what time in the game it was but it was a very dumb time to do this.

 

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It's statements like this that undermine anything else you might say. About 30 other teams would love the opportunity to take him off the chargers hands.

Yes, it's a career failure that a QB hasn't taken an injury plagued, leadership challenged team to the SB in his first two full seasons.
You're basing your opinion on Herbet from what they've TOLD you. I'm basing it on what I've seen. And I've seen them underachieve year after year. And I never said he was a career failure calm down lol. I also never said teams wouldn't take Herbert. He has the look and he has a cannon. Who the hell wouldn't take him? I'd imagine right now every team in the league except Chiefs would take Herbert over what they have. So let's get that out of the way.

And her you guys go making excuses for him. Now he's leadership "challenged" and his team is injury plagued. The excuses you guys make for these guys is just mind boggling to me.
 

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I think I’ll just be a thorn in your side until you actually stand by your words and you account bet me or they ban me for good.
You're not capable lol. This is what I tried to get you to understand earlier.....you're not as good as you think you are. You're more of a an annoyance than you are a successful troll. This is why I called you a fake Risen earlier. If you did your job better you'd be on ignore. I'd block you. If you want to be the ultimate troll you have to be a little more vulgar. Willing to do whatever it takes including getting benched. You're too passive. We need you to be more like the Joker and less like Harley.
 

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You're basing your opinion on Herbet from what they've TOLD you. I'm basing it on what I've seen. And I've seen them underachieve year after year. And I never said he was a career failure calm down lol. I also never said teams wouldn't take Herbert. He has the look and he has a cannon. Who the hell wouldn't take him? I'd imagine right now every team in the league except Chiefs would take Herbert over what they have. So let's get that out of the way.

And her you guys go making excuses for him. Now he's leadership "challenged" and his team is injury plagued. The excuses you guys make for these guys is just mind boggling to me.
I'm trying to point out that when you make statements like "Herbert doesn't make the Chargers better" it undermines any other thing you say. It comes off as trying to drag down other QB's to prop up Dak. Just being honest. That then prompts criticism of your comments and the cycle begins. I think most guys who disagree with you about Dak like myself can accept a fair reasonable exchange of view points just like you & I had about Daniel Jones. Let's just stay away from the over the top statements.

As far as what I have watched of Herbert, it's been quite a bit so I am not relying on anyone's opinion. I wasn't sure what to make of him coming out of college but have been blown away by him. It's not an excuse to say that their WR's are perpetually injured. They had other injuries on their Oline & across their Defense as well. Last year the passing game at one point consisted of Parham the TE & Eckler. They also dumped the coaching staff during the previous offseason so again not sure how that is an excuse.

I plan to watch a lot of the Chargers this year. I haven't really followed their offseason so can't say if they have improved around him or not. Partially want to see how Moore does as I personally believe Moore is both a talented play designer and a flawed coordinator. Will be curious if a new environment forces him to improve upon his flaws.
 

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it matters to reasonable thinking folk.

When you miss a quarter of the season and still lead the NFL in INTs it’s a problem.

I hope he throws 20+ INTS this season and we go 0-17. This bum has got to go.
Wait for the Dak Hater Derangement Syndrome to kick.......3...2...1!!!! :facepalm:

A real favs wants the team to actually improve. The names on the back of the jerseys don’t mean squat.

A Dak over Dallas fan, like yourself, just wants to watch Dak play.

Y’all got exposed when Cooper Rush played. The Cowboys winning games wasn’t fun when Dakky poo wasn’t playing.
You can't make this Stupidity up!!!

Yo @5Stars! Come get your peoples!!

Dak Haters NON-Football Issues:laugh::angry:
 
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