News: SI: Hasselbeck thinks the offense could take a step backward under MM

[Redsfan_83]

Tim is a moron, and only sees the light through they eyes of a QB, not what's best for the team...clearly we need to take the ball out of Dak's hands more

 

[Big_D]

I’m sure these guys will forget how to play football with kellen Moore gone. lol Simple fact he was always outcoached come playoff time. Regular season rankings don’t mean anything when that high flying offense can’t score in January. Save the Bucs game nonsense. It was nothing but a repeat of the Garrett years with him looking completely lost on the sidelines when facing legit contenders.

 

[KJJ]

Tim is a moron, and only sees the light through they eyes of a QB, not what's best for the team...clearly we need to take the ball out of Dak's hands more

Everyone is a moron if they don’t see things the way fans do. We’re not going to become a great team taking the ball out of the hands of our starting QB. It’s a QB league and Dak is going to have to play efficiently if we’re going to reach the level we want to reach. This isn’t the 70s and 80s. You’re not going to win a lot of games pounding the football on the ground all day. You have to make plays in the passing game. There’s no assurances our offense is going to get any better under McCarthy and Schottenheimer.

 

[CATCH17]

We won’t. That’s never been MMs style

Yeah but he doesn’t have Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Risen Star]

I've been banging this drum for months.

Moore was just this year's scapegoat and McCarthy is unlikely to match his production with this QB.

You weren't careful what you wished for and now you got it.

 

[Coogiguy03]

So this is my thing…hypothetically the offense struggled to start the season…..can’t they just go back to the offense they ran last year since not much will be changed?

Remember they only changed 35 percent of it, so the other 65 percent means curls curls and jet sweep

 

[Redsfan_83]

Everyone is a moron if they don’t see things the way fans do. We’re not going to become a great team taking the ball out of the hands of our starting QB. It’s a QB league and Dak is going to have to play efficiently if we’re going to reach the level we want to reach. This isn’t the 70s and 80s. You’re not going to win a lot of games pounding the football on the ground all day. You have to make plays in the passing game. There’s no assurances our offense is going to get any better under McCarthy and Schottenheimer.

nobody is suggesting taking the ball out of Dak's hands. The only way we can win is to dominate time of poss. and the only way this happens is if Dak isn''t passing the ball 50x a game. We know this to be true, and also know our D will determine our success. We onlhy have to look at SF and the Iggles to know the secret to their success...it's not really as complicated as some think Are you denying that Dak is more effective when we have success on the ground\/

 

[Risen Star]

How this ends is with Dan Quinn as the Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys next season.

 

[Jarntt]

Unfortunately I tend to agree with Hasselback in part. I don't see us scoring as many points and I don't think MM is as good of an offensive mind as Moore. I think Moore took a lot of the blame for other issues with this team and I think he is going to excel with the Chargers. But I'm glad we moved on because you can't just keep doing the same thing and expect different results. Our players seemed to struggle at times executing his offense and it seemed he didn't simplify it where we needed. What I am hoping is that MM simplifies things - more step and throw and easier passes and hot reads abasing the blitz and less risks and maybe a little more of a dedicated run game. It's not just about more points, it's about making less mistakes for this team. If our defense can stop the run and then unleash the pass rush on 3rd downs I think the offense is going to get really good field position on average - which is also why we need a good kicker. I don't think they need to light it up this year for us to win. I am also looking for more efficiency. I'm tired of stupid turnovers when we are already in FG range and I would love to see a run on 1st and goal from the 3-5 yard line. Maybe it's better to run 3 times from the 5 (gaining a yard or two each time) than trying to pass it in. So I guess I agree in general with Hasselback but for this team, with our players, this year, I think we may be better off with the switch. I also think everyone is discounting Schottenheimer's presence. I never hear him discussed but my gut tells me he is going to play a huge role and I wouldn't be shocked if he calls plays at some point.

 

[jazzcat22]

Maybe takes a step back in yards and points, but wins are what matter. And MM will give us a better chance to win some of those losses.

 

[Mannix]

I just find it VERY disturbing that Corky is now telling everyone how much he is looking forward to taking control of the offense, when 2 years ago he admitted to not wanting ANY part of it...its obvious he knows that he he may be coaching for his job, so he had no choice to embrace the change....publicly anyway. He is lazy by nature, so I'm not expecting very much....he should have been canned after the first SF playoff loss.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

It should.

We need to play ball control and time of possession.

It’s a proven fact we can’t count on this group to score 20 point’s against a team like the 49ers, so we have to have the 01 Ravens defense and try and with games 17-14.

It won’t happen though, but that’s the plan.

No Zeke and No Kellen.........Can you say Ka-BOOM!!!!
# 4 is going to reach new lows out there.
Sooner or later we have to face a 3rd and 7 or 3rd and 9 etc etc and you good old folks know what happens then!

 

[KJJ]

nobody is suggesting taking the ball out of Dak's hands. The only way we can win is to dominate time of poss. and the only way this happens is if Dak isn''t passing the ball 50x a game. We know this to be true, and also know our D will determine our success. We onlhy have to look at SF and the Iggles to know the secret to their success...it's not really as complicated as some think Are you denying that Dak is more effective when we have success on the ground\/

You were suggesting taking the ball out of his hands more. To dominate your QB has to play at a high level and you have to be able to score points. Like I said this isn’t the 70s and 80s and a 4 yards and a cloud of dust league anymore. The Eagles had great success because their QB played at an MVP level last season and they were solid offensively and defensively. It’s complicated to come up with a complete team like they had. I agree that Dak has played better when we have a solid running game but my point is you can’t lean on the run all day. Our defense can’t seem to hold up the entire season and you score a lot of points in the passing game. Right now our RB situation is a concern. Pollard is coming off a serious injury, and we moved on from Zeke who was our push the pile, short yardage back. What ended up costing us in the playoffs was Dak not being efficient and not being able to run the ball. We can’t just try and protect him with a running game all day he has to step up.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I feel like we’re going to lean towards ball control.

This is spot on.

The Cowboys will likely have fewer possessions and that means score less. Doesn't mean the offense is taking a step backwards at all!

The demise of the Cowboys offense is being extremely over exaggerated by those who truly don't understand what's going on. It doesn't fit their agenda of what they think the Cowboys need to do so it must be bad. WRONG.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Sooner or later we have to face a 3rd and 7 or 3rd and 9 etc etc and you good old folks know what happens then!

 

[Sydla]

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...ike-mccarthy-tim-hasselbeck-dak-prescott-otas

Cowboys Offense to 'Take a Step Backward!' Under Mike McCarthy Says Ex NFL QB​

Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy is now the offensive play-caller, but the move has been met with criticism and doubts as to whether Dallas will be better offensively because of it.
The Dallas Cowboys have undergone several changes this offseason, the most significant being head coach Mike McCarthy taking over the offensive play calling from Kellen Moore.

Under Moore, Dallas was one of the best offenses in football. Now with the Los Angeles Chargers acquiring his services and McCarthy taking over, some have their doubts about the Cowboys moving on from a coordinator who put up points as Moore's offense did.

Former NFL quarterback Tim Hasselbeck is one detractor of McCarthy calling the plays next season, and Hasselbeck doesn't see it ending well in Frisco.

"I think it's going to take a step backward," Hasselbeck said on NFL Live. "I don't understand this talk about how this offense was somehow a disaster under Kellen Moore. You realize, four years he was the offensive coordinator there, there's one team that scored more points in the NFL - it was the Kansas City Chiefs.

I think this is one of those times when stats don't tell the entire story.

I think Moore was a pretty good OC. I think his teams could put up points, especially against inferior defenses. But there were times, when facing a legitimate defense, they could bog down. Now was it all Moore's fault? No. There were some talent issues, Dak (especially last year) could get wonky from week to week. But still, in some of our biggest games over the last 2-3 years, there were times when it seemed the opposing DC just had a leg up on Moore.

Now I am not suggesting McCarthy is going to fix all that. There's a chance he will not be very good and this offense will just flounder around a bit. But I think some, like Hasselback, are falling too in love with the numbers and not taking a more macro look at this in their praise of Moore. I don't have an issue letting him walk.

 

[diamonddelts]

I heard that McCarthy really doesn’t care about stats and offensive rankings.

I feel like we’re going to lean towards ball control.

Paired with horrible clock management.

 

[diamonddelts]

Open calorie yards. Tons of sizzle not much steak.

Call it what you want. But at any point did you feel this offense was going to control a game? Dominate? I just go back to Green Bay and Jacksonville. Super predictable game plans like against SF.

We don’t need flashy stats. We need consistency, ball control, long sustained drives leading to touchdowns

Play in front of the chains. No more run Zeke for 2, holding, run Zeke for 2 and be stuck in 3rd and longs.

So true. Inconsistent drives and feeding the ball to someone with a career low ypc was not a good plan.

 

[diamonddelts]

Lots of empty yards against the cellar dwellers of the league but folded like a cheap suit against good competition.

This

 

[Carson]

It certainly wasn’t preventing our offenses from scoring a lot of points. We put up 50+ twice in 2021. When Dak returned from injury last season we became the highest scoring offense in the league. Until last season Dak was very productive under Moore. Go look at all the 400 yard games he had. It’s not going to be easy for our offense to get better than it was. We have uncertainty at RB and if we can’t run the ball efficiently there’s going to be issues.

Not saying they didn’t score points. But there many of stretches where they did not look good at all. Tampa week 1?Tennessee? Washington? Indianapolis for 3 quarters. Texans game.

I am not arguing production. But you honestly say when you watch this offense, you believe they are like Kansas City? Score when they need and want?

Under Moore they were good. But always inconsistent.

Moore has in way too many 3rd and longs. Very predictable run Zeke up the middle, roll out pass to Schultz for 3, and then forced for a 3rd and 7.