FS1:The gap between the Cowboys and the Eagles is at the quarterback position

Adreme

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Who are you? And I will destroy you in sports betting

You were never in this conversation. And you lose your *** gambling on sports
Of course you will.

I believe that you believe that you are a good gambler but you seem to have no idea how lines work. You cited the line as though it somehow gave credibility to the Cowboys being "better" than the 49ers when I do not know a single person who was not betting the 49ers that game, some of them rather sizably. I explained to you why the smart money that game was on the 49ers and you seem to not get it which is fine.

Best of luck betting next year. If it makes you feel better I will be happily taking your losses to the bank.
 

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You are acting like the disparity between the cowboys and 49ers was some massive gap the last two years …that’s just not true not matter what metrics you want to use
I don't think it was a massive gap. Just that there was a gap. Nothing outrageous. It was enough that I didn't think we were winning going in. Same thing against the Rams back in 2018. No huge gap. But how many teams overcome it? How many QBs can make up the difference? It doesn't happen often with the best of QBs, let alone Dak.
 

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I don't think it was a massive gap. Just that there was a gap. Nothing outrageous. It was enough that I didn't think we were winning going in. Same thing against the Rams back in 2018. No huge gap. But how many teams overcome it? How many QBs can make up the difference? It doesn't happen often with the best of QBs, let alone Dak.
I’m willing to bet the Cowboys go to SF and beat the 49ers this season. Eagles get them at home, they’ll probably beat them as well. There is a lot of talent on San Francisco, same can be said of the Cowboys. I live in Northern California. 49ers fans think all three of their quarterbacks are future Hall of Famers. They might beat the Commanders. Might.
 

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If they had the most talented team they would’ve beat the Chiefs.
he should have and probably meant the nfc.
And eagles played KC to the wire and lost on a last second FG! you cant lose and do better than that.
Chances are if KC gets to the SB the nfc team is going to lose if mahomes is healthy.

Eagles were clearly the best nfc team last season , thats why they are nfc champs.
 

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Dak has never won a div round game, been in 3 I think, not all his fault, but there it is.
If he/they win the div round game,( and dont lose in wc game first) that will be something, but not much, not enough to impress me.
 

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She is saying what many of us have been saying. 12 freaking points and it wasn't the defenses fault against the 49ers. Two NFL players on the panel agreeing with her too.
Dak just doesn't show up. Just look at Daks last game against the Chiefs. 9 freaking points. Hurts against the Chiefs on the biggest stage 35 points! Dak doesn't have the pedigree that Hurts has.
People just don't understand that you don't judge someone on how they run the score up on a trash team. You judge them on how they perform against the good teams on big stages.
 

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I'm not so sure. Wentz was always injury-prone through his college days. I am not surprised at all that he became injured a number of times. As for RG3, there were warning signs about his gait before the draft, specifically in tibial torsion and the way his knees lay, which would lead his to be more at risk for injury. Concerns confirmed. Zion Williamson has a similar issue. Know how many games he has missed already in his career?

Hurts might be different. RG3 always looked fragile. Wentz is big and strong but not stoutly built. Hurts looks like a fullback or MMA heavyweight fighter. If he goes the Franco Harris route when running, he may be able to play that style for 5-6 years.
all running QBs get injured. doesn't matter their running style. he is only 6'1 and 223. getting hit enough times and some injury happens, shoulder, leg, etc. they are not RBs. even RBs get injured often, emmitt was almost an exception to the rule despite the minor injuries he suffered. Even Cam newton who was almost 250, got injured by his 4th year.
 

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She is saying what many of us have been saying. 12 freaking points and it wasn't the defenses fault against the 49ers. Two NFL players on the panel agreeing with her too.
Dak just doesn't show up. Just look at Daks last game against the Chiefs. 9 freaking points. Hurts against the Chiefs on the biggest stage 35 points! Dak doesn't have the pedigree that Hurts has.
People just don't understand that you don't judge someone on how they run the score up on a trash team. You judge them on how they perform against the good teams on big stages.
give me the top 3 WR group, the best OL, top 5 TE and top 3 rushing attack. lets see how we do....
 

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Even the press has finally awoken to the Dak effect...... :omg:
Hey Dakko you need to find some new material for those podium-losing speeches of yours!!!
 

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Live in the "IF" world is where most Dak-stains can be found holding a clipboard with their garbage stats and proclaiming his greatness!!!
extend dak. extend dak. extend dak. extend dak. extend dak...can't wait buddy. I can't wait until they extend Dak and make him highest paid QB in the league... woo hooo

:laugh:
 

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really!! so eagles having the best OL is not a difference? the eagles top 3 defense is not a differene? the eagles top 3 WR group is not a difference? the eagles top 5 TE is not a difference? the eagles top 3 running game is not a difference? come on now
Couldn’t you have written this EXACT paragraph Daks rookie year?…..
 

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Dak is better than Hurts and I think Dak is a meh QB.

Casual fan will obviously think Hurts is better though.
I think Dak is better than than Hurts when Dak is ‘on’. My problem is that Dak is only ‘on’ 2 of 3 games. Dak wasn’t better than Hirts against the 49ers….that’s the issue for me
 

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That is true. However, most contending teams don’t have the entire teams success built upon the QB’s ability to run to make everything go. You make Hurts just throw the ball without the threat to the defense of his running, and it changes everything about that team, like I said above.

Mahomes, for instance, is very important to that KC team’s success, and like you mentioned, take him away and it changes that offense. However, it isn’t his ability to run that is the key. It is his arm is what kills defenses. If Mahomes ran like Hurts and was in that same scheme, and I’d feel the same way about him as well.

Hurts is really good in that scheme, so I’m not saying anything bad about him… I’m just saying, stop that running threat and you’ll change that entire offense… which will expose the defense much more.

Will other team’s figure out how to slow it? I don’t know but when they do, it will change everything.
Mahomes is very important to KCs success because Mahomes is the best QB in the league currently, its the most coveted position to find.
So knowing that, and this is a very honest question, why do we ignore some dart throws in drafts.
We have wasted 2nds on pipe dreams like Jaylon Smith, why is there never a draft pick spent on a QB for this roster?
 

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If they had the most talented team they would’ve beat the Chiefs.
Eagles position to position are more talented than the Chiefs last year BUT theres a significant gap between the most position and that's the quarterback. Hurts is good, I'm not going to be one to sit here and say he's not but Mahomes is great. Mahomes is a difference maker.
 

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Couldn’t you have written this EXACT paragraph Daks rookie year?…..
I could have. he didn't win it. what does it mean then? that after rookie year success couldn't be copied, we should have cut him. not sure what you meant by this.

btw, show me one QB, who made it to the superbowl.

btw, you know he lost to Aaron Rodgers. right? you are faulting him for not beating aaron rodgers.
 
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