FS1:The gap between the Cowboys and the Eagles is at the quarterback position

rambo2

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Jimmy built that team.

From the way that I saw Dak play in the playoffs the last 2 years, let's just say I have my doubts.
Rrwatch the first playoff game.

Didn't Jimmy build the Miami team too?
 

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Who are these people? Lol The one dude can’t even speak good English. Were the Cowboys going against a 7th round rookie in the playoffs? Yes they was? :laugh:
 

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24-10 the last two seasons is questionable? More wins than the Eagles in the same time frame. Tough crowd. Keep underestimating the Cowboys. The team is loaded.
A Super Bowl appearance isn’t questionable. In the end the ultimate measurement is results in the playoffs.
 

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You clearly have no idea how lines are determined. Nice try
I most likely made more money betting than you by not only understanding how lines are set, but also understanding when there is value in a bet. Nice try though, you almost sounded smart.
 

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One good year and idiots love him.
He finished second in the MVP race and got his team to the Super Bowl. In the Cowboys entire history they never had a regular season as good as Philly had in 2022. They were 15-2 and one of those losses was with their backup QB. Hurts deserves a lot of credit but he won’t get much here.
 

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He finished second in the MVP race and got his team to the Super Bowl. In the Cowboys entire history they never had a regular season as good as Philly did in 2022.
That’s fair because if he has a bad season they’ll hate him.
 

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Nah, it's not QB that is deciding the gap......

- The gap between Eagles vs Cowboys is clearly the front office - and Eagles GM (per Howie Roseman) are clearly head and shoulders above Cowboys management, imo.

- We are not on their league,imo when it comes to " middle ground " difference making impact moves in player personnel includes key clever trades
(ala AJ Brown, Darius Slay, Chauncey Garner Johnson) ..... and key big FA signings ala LB/edge rusher Hasson Riddick and CB James Bradberry.

- And then it's their swaggering way of drafting key players and making their NFL draft- related swap trades up and down and investing in future picks that had included acquiring high early draft picks trade with Saints to get a top 10 overall pick (ala Jalen Carter) ..trade ups for DT Jordan Davis,.. and even WR Devontae Smith (per Cowboys)

- With our Cowboys management we only starting to finally make the offseason, non-NFL draft trads and FA re-signing that we've been missing out and ignoring (per cap boy Stephen ?)
for quite some time. Per shrewd late round picks for WR Brandin Cooks, and CB Stephen Gilmore as well as surprisingly re-signing S Donovan Wilson

-Eagles produced both the coaching staff and player personnel that empowered their drive to winning the NFC East division and onto competiiting in SB vs KC Chiefs.

- What would a Russell Wilson trade to Eagles would have looked under much better coaching staff and OL unit ? Russell totally blew that with a non-interest in Philly.! ..imo.
 

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I most likely made more money betting than you by not only understanding how lines are set, but also understanding when there is value in a bet. Nice try though, you almost sounded smart.
Who are you? And I will destroy you in sports betting

You were never in this conversation. And you lose your *** gambling on sports
 

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It's just funny to me when one formulates an opinion after a single year. No question Jalen is far above a better running QB. Better passer, I'm not so sure.
 

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It's just funny to me when one formulates an opinion after a single year. No question Jalen is far above a better running QB. Better passer, I'm not so sure.
Some peoples' opinion has been constructed upon the advancement of the Eagles' beyond the divisional round. Wait until the conclusion of either the upcoming regular and/or postseason. The Jalen Hurts opinion will likely modify favorably or negatively at that time.
 

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Give me one Eagle player that you would take over Parsons. What young offensive lineman on the Eagles you would take over Tyler? Is anyone on their offensive line in as a good as Martin. CeeDee is better than Johnson. Hurts threw for 23 touchdowns and everything was perfect for him. Dak threw for 27 and played 12 games. The teams are neck and neck.
1. Hurts
2. Jurgens
3. Both Lane and Jason in same conversation as Martin
4. Who’s Johnson?
 

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Nah, it's not QB that is deciding the gap......

- The gap between Eagles vs Cowboys is clearly the front office - and Eagles GM (per Howie Roseman) are clearly head and shoulders above Cowboys management, imo.

- We are not on their league,imo when it comes to " middle ground " difference making impact moves in player personnel includes key clever trades
(ala AJ Brown, Darius Slay, Chauncey Garner Johnson) ..... and key big FA signings ala LB/edge rusher Hasson Riddick and CB James Bradberry.

- And then it's their swaggering way of drafting key players and making their NFL draft- related swap trades up and down and investing in future picks that had included acquiring high early draft picks trade with Saints to get a top 10 overall pick (ala Jalen Carter) ..trade ups for DT Jordan Davis,.. and even WR Devontae Smith (per Cowboys)

- With our Cowboys management we only starting to finally make the offseason, non-NFL draft trads and FA re-signing that we've been missing out and ignoring (per cap boy Stephen ?)
for quite some time. Per shrewd late round picks for WR Brandin Cooks, and CB Stephen Gilmore as well as surprisingly re-signing S Donovan Wilson

-Eagles produced both the coaching staff and player personnel that empowered their drive to winning the NFC East division and onto competiiting in SB vs KC Chiefs.

- What would a Russell Wilson trade to Eagles would have looked under much better coaching staff and OL unit ? Russell totally blew that with a non-interest in Philly.! ..imo.
A Russell Wilson trade that was apparently a done deal would have killed the current Eagles team and Howie would have made a massive blunder. The Eagles got soooooo lucky Wilson rejected that trade. The Eagles got with those same picks AJ Brown, Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter and got to keep their MVP runner up in Hurtz. Would have destroyed the current team. AJ Brown alone would have hurt. Lucky!
 

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1. Hurts
2. Jurgens
3. Both Lane and Jason in same conversation as Martin
4. Who’s Johnson?
I would take their young mauling pro bowl LT Mailata over Tyler. Martin is a tremendous Guard and sure HOF'er but so is Lane Johnson who plays a more valuable position. Yes Dak had more TDs passing in less games but the Eagles set the all time record for most rushing TD's and Hurtz had at least a dozen of them. I'm not going to say Hurtz is better than Dak after one good season but last year he outplayed Dak my a long mile.
 

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1. Hurts
2. Jurgens
3. Both Lane and Jason in same conversation as Martin
4. Who’s Johnson?
Hurts over Parsons? :facepalm: :laugh: One solid season makes you better than generational defensive player.You think a backup center is better than Tyler? Obvious Eagle fan response. Martin might be the best guard of all time. AJ. Brown not Johnson my mistake.
 

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1. Hurts
2. Jurgens
3. Both Lane and Jason in same conversation as Martin
4. Who’s Johnson?
For number 2, I would choose 2nd-year Pro-Bowler LG Landon Dickerson or Mailata, either one over Smith. CeeDee vs Brown is a toss-up.
 
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Hurts over Parsons? :facepalm: :laugh: One solid season makes you better than generational defensive player.You think a backup center is better than Tyler? Obvious Eagle fan response. Martin might be the best guard of all time. AJ. Brown not Johnson my mistake.
If you're starting a team. Do you take an edge rusher or the best QB in the NFC?
 

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If you're starting a team. Do you take an edge rusher or the best QB in the NFC?
Parsons. Hurts is not even close to the top 5 quarterbacks in the league statistically. The only thing he does better then Dak is run.
 

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Hurts over Parsons? :facepalm: :laugh: One solid season makes you better than generational defensive player.You think a backup center is better than Tyler? Obvious Eagle fan response. Martin might be the best guard of all time. AJ. Brown not Johnson my mistake.
Bro, Cee Dee is not better than AJ Brown. Stop. Mailata is a young pro bowl LT too
 
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