Video: Prescott lighting up the defense with Cooks

khiladi

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You said...

"Unlike Dak who “doesn’t practice well”, as Woodson said, we already knew Romo was the best QB on the team the moment he stepped on the field."

When did Woodson ever say that? When did Darren Woodson ever say that Dak "doesn't practice well"???

For one, you can reference the article published in Dallas News, “Ex Cowboy Darren Woodson: When Tony Romo first came in as rookie, he was already the best QB on the team”.

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“I expect a lot out of Tony. I always have. When Tony first came in his rookie year, there was something about the kid. He walked in on the first day of camp and we had Chad Hutchinson and Drew Henson and those guys, the first day I was sitting there with Sean Payton, and he said hey, this kid is special. I said he’s the best quarterback on this team right now, and I saw him in three days. Three days at camp. There was something about the guy so my expectations of Tony over the years have always been high.”

As far as doesn’t practice well, I didn’t say Woodson said it, as he wasn’t on the team nor was he observing, nor did anybody think he was ever better than Tony Romo. Jerry would say he doesn’t practice well, but shows up in game day.
 

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Why Dak fans so mad that I just posted 2 of his bone headed INTs which were the same type of INTs that he is known for.. “he must be open.. ****, I’m not even going to look.”

I mean I wasn’t the guy drawing inferences that he looks much quicker, he is lighting it up like he never did it before, it’s obvious it’s the new WCO and all that jazz based upon a couple edited clips of some completely passed to his first reads?
 

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Sis this is where you lose all credibility, Dak came in the league as a rookie with that same buffoon. Romo came in the league learning from Parcells and Payton, but once Parcells left, he couldn't handle the commandments that Parcells left him.

Uh no..

1. Jason Garrett was not allowed to touch play-calling after 2013, even though to start 2013 he was stripped of play calling. Dak Prescott didn’t play one down with Jason Garrett as an OC, Scott Linehan was the OC and had complete control of the offense. In fact, Dallas with Dak Prescott went to third in play action usage, while with Jason Garrett with Romo, they were traditionally bottom of the barrel along with bottom of the league in rushing attempts when all was said and done, just like when Garrett went to NY and was fired in about a year and a half. It would have been halfway into his first season calling plays of Joe Judge had his way, but Garrett was connected to Mara through his father going way back. That’s the only reason he got a job after the Cowboys anyways.

2. Sean Payton was never the OC in Dallas in the 2 years he was here,he was QB coach and a passing game coordinator. Tony Sparano coached the OL and RG. Parcells offense here was actually a conservative version of the Erhardt-Perkins.

You don’t even know what your talking about.
 

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Uh no..

1. Jason Garrett was not allowed to touch play-calling after 2013, even though to start 2013 he was stripped of play calling. Dak Prescott didn’t play one down with Jason Garrett as an OC, Scott Linehan was the OC and had complete control of the offense. In fact, Dallas with Dak Prescott went to third in play action usage, while with Jason Garrett with Romo, they were traditionally bottom of the barrel along with bottom of the league in rushing attempts when all was said and done, just like when Garrett went to NY and was fired in about a year and a half. It would have been halfway into his first season calling plays of Joe Judge had his way, but Garrett was connected to Mara through his father going way back. That’s the only reason he got a job after the Cowboys anyways.

2. Sean Payton was never the OC in Dallas in the 2 years he was here,he was QB coach and a passing game coordinator. Tony Sparano coached the OL and RG. Parcells offense here was actually a conservative version of the Erhardt-Perkins.

You don’t even know what your talking about.
Wrong, he was assistant head coach and called the plays. Where's the lies, Romo came into a situation with 2 HOF coaches teaching him.
 

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You talk bad about your Troops? I'll just rest that case here and now and zero range that excuse further.

My Dad served on a sub that took 184 depth charges in the Sea of Japan. My Grandfather carried a duffle bag on Normandy. My brother made a jet training manual for the Naval Air Station in Kingsville...and I served receiving two National Defense Ribbons, enough on myself.

Dak answers muster at all calls...now let's see!
I see your hand and raise you a purple heart and several fallen buddy's dog tags.....but what has that to do with Dak in the least?

That said, thanks to my fellow brother-in-arms, and to your family as well.
 

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Dak failed the David Carr DaveNBusters QB School!! Do you actually think think 2 INTs during training camp is not concerning....

Dak Haters want Cooper Rush to make them feel elite again!!:lmao:
I see you continue your one constant when comparing others to Dak.
 

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Wrong, he was assistant head coach and called the plays. Where's the lies, Romo came into a situation with 2 HOF coaches teaching him.

No, I wasn’t wrong. He was QB coach and passing game coordinator, he was never OC. And he also held the title of Assistant HC, which is irrelevant to the contention regarding what his role in the offense was, as this was all about you trying to make some false correlation to Dak Prescott and Garrett, besides the fact Parcells was still building the organization, while Dak literally walked into the best OL and RG in the league, the OL had multiple all-pros at pretty much each position and they played together multiple years.

Parcells actually called plays in 2003, 2004 when SP was QB coach and “relinquished” control in 2005 to Payton, even though we all know Parcells, being the control freak he was, they still ran the same conservative offense and Sean Payton was the passing game coordinator that year. And he wasn’t even allowed to talk to reporters during his stint in Dallas under the control freak. And Bledsoe was the QB.

And when 2006 came around, when Romo actually started he was under Parcells calling plays. As Sean Payton left for NO, Romo NEVER played under Sean Payton calling plays and Parcells offensive game plans were a joke and conservative and completely out-dated.

And like I said, Dak NEVER played under Garrett calling plays period.

You don’t know what your talking about.
 
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No, I wasn’t wrong. He was QB coach and passing game coordinator, he was never OC. And he also held the title of Assistant HC, which is irrelevant to the contention regarding what his role in the offense was.

Parcells actually called plays in 2003, 2004 when SP was QB coach and “relinquished” control in 2005 to Payton, even though we all know Parcells, being the control freak he was, they still ran the same conservative offense and Sean Payton was the passing game coordinator that year. And he wasn’t even allowed to talk to reporters during his stint in Dallas under the control freak. And Bledsoe was the QB.

And when 2006 came around, when Romo actually started he was under Parcells calling plays. As Sean Payton left for NO, Romo NEVER played under Sean Payton calling plays and Parcells offensive game plans were a joke and conservative and completely out-dated.

And like I said, Dak NEVER played under Garrett calling plays period.

You don’t know what your talking about.
So where was I wrong for saying Romo came in to the league with 2 HOF coaches teaching him? I never said nothing about Garrett calling plays for Dak. I said learning, LEARNING
 

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Daks looking sharp! Lot of outside safe throws but not bad. Defense is not going all out and disguising things. But that's ok early on in training camp. We've seen Dak look pretty good before. I want to know if he is seeing a sports psychologist to help his mental game to get over the choking.
 

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How many times are you going to say the same thing in this thread?

We get it. You think Dak sucks.
Just to play devil's advocate....he didn't say He Sucked....he just pointed out that u can't take too much from a QB looking good in training camp, because 99% of QBs look good in practices, and it makes you look like a football newb to read anything into it.

We don't know what the coaches are looking for. There may be times a qB looks good to us, but not might be doing what coaches are asking. Likewise there may be plays a player looks bad to US, but in reality the coaches are pleased because they're working on a specific thing unbeknownst to viewers.

That's what THIS poster is saying anyway....not ME.

I think (after watching these handful of practices) that Dak looks like a lock for league MVP and well on his way to a 1st ballot HOF induction. But I'm a REAL fan...not some Hater.
 

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The only downside to the quicker throws is that if the read is wrong the ball is going to hit a defender in the chest. There is far less time for the route combinations to develop and far fewer post-snap route changes. It simplifies the process from an offensive standpoint but it also holds true for the defense. The good news is that two things should improve for the offense this year. 1) It should be far less predictable and formulaic than it had been under Moore and Garrett. There are 9 possible base routes for a receiver to run and up 5 receivers on the field at a time. That is 9 to the 5th power route combinations. No need to trick it up with all the option routes Moore used to feature just call one of the 59000+ combinations and dare the defense to guess the right ones and then 2) The receivers are quite simply better. Better receivers = more separation and fewer perfectly thrown balls being batted to the defense ..

Well, yes. There is the danger of the wrong read being made. That's why the communication will be critical. However, it is also true that this should lead to better gains because the DBs will have less time to react. This should help Dak. Especially with the improvements made at WR.
 

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The only downside to the quicker throws is that if the read is wrong the ball is going to hit a defender in the chest. There is far less time for the route combinations to develop and far fewer post-snap route changes. It simplifies the process from an offensive standpoint but it also holds true for the defense. The good news is that two things should improve for the offense this year. 1) It should be far less predictable and formulaic than it had been under Moore and Garrett. There are 9 possible base routes for a receiver to run and up 5 receivers on the field at a time. That is 9 to the 5th power route combinations. No need to trick it up with all the option routes Moore used to feature just call one of the 59000+ combinations and dare the defense to guess the right ones and then 2) The receivers are quite simply better. Better receivers = more separation and fewer perfectly thrown balls being batted to the defense ..
This sounds good . . . Thank you for the breakdown
 

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And what I noticed is you're not a Cowboys fan at all. I'm not a social media person like you are, so I don't need justification from this board. I only come for the news and the comedy, been reading this forum for over 10 years. Wanted to sign up to troll the trolls like yourself.

Yeah, I've noticed that as well about him. I don't know what he means by "Dak over Dallas" fans. I'm cheering for the Cowboys, and Dak is the QB. So, naturally, the better Dak does, the better the Cowboys do. So, naturally, I'd want Dak to do well while he's the QB of the Cowboys. It's only logical.
 

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1. Well, first of all, I’m not trying to give the impression Dak is “lighting up defenses” in training camp and because of this “impression”, the regular season spells a new Dak, as the OC that caused him to lead the league in INTs is no longer here.

2. Those other QBs have won SBs and didn’t lead the league in INTs in 11 games played either..

I think the point is that training camp interceptions aren't that concerning. Especially this early in TC. Defences usually have the better of offenses early in camp, and the offense has still looked good anyway despite that. Besides, it's practice. We're not even talking about a preseason game. This is practice. I'd rather Dak throw a lot of picks in practice than in a game, don't you?
 
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