Dak vs Zone

[DeaconMoss]

EaGirs bashed 49ners QBs and then ran more than pass on them. That's what beat the 49ers in the playoffs last year. Hurts sucked passing in that game but the Eagirls were able to run on them.

That's how you beat the 49ers. Stop them from scoring by getting all of their QBs out of the game and having an effective run game against them.

No Trent Williams and Deebo in the lineup is pretty effective also

 

[ScipioCowboy]

You admit you don’t watch film, but you’re demanding film-based refutations. Fascinating.

 

[Zman5]

No Trent Williams and Deebo in the lineup is pretty effective also

OP was asking about beating the Niners in the playoffs last year. They both started and played in that game.

 

[FanofJerry]

You admit you don’t watch film, but you’re demanding film-based refutations. Fascinating.

I dont watch long form film. Provide the rewards for doing it and I will do it. But dont proclaim you know all if you watch film without providing evidence.

Seems reasonable from posters claiming they know all. Show me you know all and know what your are talking about.

Words are just words against the visual eye until you provide evidence the eye is lying.

If youre confident in your stance...provide evidence to the layman. Not just words. The system doesnt like that does it?

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Seems reasonable from posters claiming they know all. Show me you know all and know what your are talking about.

Words are just words against the visual eye until you provide evidence the eye is lying.

If youre confident in your stance...provide evidence to the layman. Not just words. The system doesnt like that does it?

I don’t know about the system, but people in general are pretty quick to point out intellectual dishonesty.

 

[FanofJerry]

I don’t know about the system, but people in general are pretty quick to point out intellectual dishonesty.

But more posters defend haters than they do reasonable posters. So your comment doesnt stand.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

But more posters defend haters than they do reasonable posters. So your comment doesnt stand.

Given you’re demanding film-based rebuttals from “know-it-alls”, I’ll assume your claim here is based on rigorous statistical analysis of the “defenses” offered by posters in the forum, and you’ll be more than willing to provide this research.

I’ll wait.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Based on what better outcome?

Hope in a rookie?

Have you seen the turmoil in New York after their starter and second string guy went down?

Are you sure moving on without a miracle is better? Philly and the other team directed at being successful are anomalies, imo. You have to get lucky cutting a good bus driver...its not guaranteed. Provide me with long history of it working.

I think the guys you are referring to have good play callers that arent putting it on the QB. I could be wrong.

Not going to debate a 3rd string QB. Although Brick is apparently better than Devitto. Don't overpay bus drivers like Dak and Jones. If a team can allocate resources to all other positions except QB they won't be terrible. They may make the playoffs and lose in the WC round. How is that so different? Average QB1 will win you just as many rings as a JAG. None. Can't settle for an average QB1.

 

[FanofJerry]

Not going to debate a 3rd string QB. Although Brick is apparently better than Devitto. Don't overpay bus drivers like Dak and Jones. If a team can allocate resources to all other positions except QB they won't be terrible. They may make the playoffs and lose in the WC round. How is that so different? Average QB1 will win you just as many rings as a JAG. None. Can't settle for an average QB1.

Youre not playing fair. Youre not a GM with a real job to lose like most Orgs.

We dont have to argue about Jerry being in a position where he doesnt have to worry about that. All other GM's are paying Bus Drivers.

 

[DeaconMoss]

But more posters defend haters than they do reasonable posters. So your comment doesnt stand.

Fanofjerry.....a man who fired the best thing that happened to the franchise. Had the smarts and system to win 8 Superbowls....fired him. Won't add him to ring of honor. Will not hire a real GM. Loves players more than managing team. Refuses to hire a coach and allow them to do their job. I have more... Anything you comment shouldn't stand.

 

[FanofJerry]

Given you’re demanding film-based rebuttals from “know-it-alls”, I’ll assume your claim here is based on rigorous statistical analysis of the “defenses” offered by posters in the forum, and you’ll be more than willing to provide this research.

I’ll wait.

Nope. Im asking for more than hate statements that seem unreasonable.

Why pay for All-22 if I dont know whats going on?

I am asking for visual evidence Dak sucks and what your position is based on the defenses stifling him.

Not that complicated.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Youre not playing fair. Youre not a GM with a real job to lose like most Orgs.

We dont have to argue about Jerry being in a position where he doesnt have to worry about that. All other GM's are paying Bus Drivers.

Just bc other loser franchises are paying avg QBs doesn't make it right. This is the Dallas Friggin Cowboys! Pains me to see Dak run out there every week when I know how this story ends. He's a JAG. Nothing more

 

[DeaconMoss]

Nope. Im asking for more than hate statements that seem unreasonable.

Why pay for All-22 if I dont know whats going on?

I am asking for visual evidence Dak sucks and what your position is based on the defenses stifling him.

Not that complicated.

Go check the final score of the last game in the last two seasons and the score of the Philly and SF game this year. "He ain't that dude." Is that visual enough?

 

[RonnieT24]

Nope. Im asking for more than hate statements that seem unreasonable.

Why pay for All-22 if I dont know whats going on?

I am asking for visual evidence Dak sucks and what your position is based on the defenses stifling him.

Not that complicated.

You will never get this because it doesn't happen. At least not very often.. Yes it has happened this season and it will happen again at some point in the future. But the narrative that Dak is just wetting the bed every time he sees a primarily zone coverage scheme is made up nonsense. All the numbers call it out for the blatant lie it is.. but those dug in on that stance won't acknowledge that fact.

 

[FanofJerry]

Fanofjerry.....a man who fired the best thing that happened to the franchise. Had the smarts and system to win 8 Superbowls....fired him. Won't add him to ring of honor. Will not hire a real GM. Loves players more than managing team. Refuses to hire a coach and allow them to do their job. I have more... Anything you comment shouldn't stand.

Youre a company man...hung up on promoting the systems stance of treating players as numbers...good for you. If you had feelings you wouldnt want it done to you. But youre a system drone that cant think for itself....kudos.

Jerry has his faults. But you sweep under the rug how well this team has drafted the past 5+ years. Jerry wants to pay his producers right....just like if you were real you would want to be paid. But you want to side step that and refuse to answer that. Its reasonable for a mindless drone.

You want to promote hate for the system, not be reasonable. You cant justify youre own existence. Kudos. We are talking abour reasonable football over here and how to help Dak. You reverted to hate. A system "go-to". Be proud of that. youre a hero. We are trying to help Dak. But I will get banned for this comment unreasonably.

 

[FanofJerry]

You will never get this because it doesn't happen. At least not very often.. Yes it has happened this season and it will happen again at some point in the future. But the narrative that Dak is just wetting the bed every time he sees a primarily zone coverage scheme is made up nonsense. All the numbers call it out for the blatant lie it is.. but those dug in on that stance won't acknowledge that fact.

Is my very casual stance and eye correct that he throws a majority of dumb interceptions into zone? Seems like it...but I cant provide evidence...not tech savy. Seems like Dak can be baited into INT's based on zones or showing man and shifting to zone and sitting on a TE pass.

I could be wrong. I just think the forum needs to analyze this in more depth as as opposed to just words.

Im a Dak Supporter not hater...but I do see he relies on TE too much...maybe at a flaw when against a show-man zone

 

[Rockport]

Dak plays well during the season
Just need to see it post season

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Tow the hater narrative. It’s easy. Doesn’t require much objectivity, understanding or interest.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Youre a company man...hung up on promoting the systems stance of treating players as numbers...good for you. If you had feelings you wouldnt want it done to you. But youre a system drone that cant think for itself....kudos.

Jerry has his faults. But you sweep under the rug how well this team has drafted the past 5+ years. Jerry wants to pay his producers right....just like if you were real you would want to be paid. But you want to side step that and refuse to answer that. Its reasonable for a mindless drone.

You want to promote hate for the system, not be reasonable. You cant justify youre own existence. Kudos. We are talking abour reasonable football over here and how to help Dak. You reverted to hate. A system "go-to". Be proud of that. youre a hero. We are trying to help Dak. But I will get banned for this comment unreasonably.

System? Dallas has no system. No identity. Every player in the NFL is a number. They understand that. Good GMs understand that. Pay the producers I'm all for. But. There are very few reliable CONSISTENT producers in the entire NFL at any position. That's why the system you hate works. Frugal is best and easier to collect draft capital and keep looking for the next best thing. Not an "he will be ok for now thing." Dallas has 2 players that are deserving of a big contract. Zach Martin. Micah. The rest are not consistent and relegated to "possibles." SF and Philly have combined 12-15 of the Zach Martin types.

 

[RonnieT24]

Is my very casual stance and eye correct that he throws a majority of dumb interceptions into zone? Seems like it...but I cant provide evidence...not tech savy. Seems like Dak can be baited into INT's based on zones or showing man and shifting to zone and sitting on a TE pass.

I could be wrong. I just think the forum needs to analyze this in more depth as as opposed to just words.

Im a Dak Supporter not hater...but I do see he relies on TE too much...maybe at a flaw when against a show-man zone

Did you have the same issue when Romo was throwing Witten 100 catches a year? Even with monsters like T.O., Miles and Dez at wideout? If I'm not mistaken of all three of the INTs against the 49ers were to wide receivers. Two to Cooks one to Gallup. They also all occurred in the 4th quarter when the game was all but decided and we were in desperation mode. The one he threw against the Rams was tipped at the line or it would have been a completion to McKeon. The one against the Cardinals was also to Cooks. This one last game was really the only one he was "baited" into anything. And mind you, his INT percentage this season is at 2.0% which is pretty much what it has been for his entire career. And it also happens to be one of the best percentages in the history of the league. Again I have to ask where is all this failure people are spouting off about?

 

[FanofJerry]

Go check the final score of the last game in the last two seasons and the score of the Philly and SF game this year. "He ain't that dude." Is that visual enough?

Provide a detailed secondary option that the Leagues GM's would not laugh at.

New York Giants support my case.

You cant. Youre a system hater. Swell existence. Villain stuff is elementary which is why grade school kids are into Disney Movies. I dont care about some elaborate lie where Demons vs Angels is a thang or Heros vs Villains is a thang...its unncessary. I dont put hate into this World in some fake context of a survival game. I dont believe in Game Theory....I believe in Good.