When is the last time you said, great off season?

Reid1boys

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Yawn on your whatever prediction where we overachieve without the talent to do so. Bet you haven't even looked at the schedule. You're just making wild assumptions because you're a Dak homer right?

We got the AFC North, we got SF in SF, we got Houston, we got Detroit. Brutal.
Clearly you havent been hanging around these parts for very long. I can promise you I look at that schedule more than you, and the day it is released. I actually got to 3-5 games a year and the second that schedule is released, im figuring out travel plans.

Dak Homer???/ You just showed your ignorance when trying to peg me. By the way, I dont make predictions. It is ignorant to try in the NFL. Every year a couple teams picked by the "Experts," to make the SB dont even make the playoffs.
 

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I mistook you for another poster still this is clearly a rebuild not some Super Bowl contending team. Draft won't change much.
 

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Nothing guarantees a title.
Getting Jerry Jones out of the way practically does. Hell, other teams make a title game once every 20 years just on the stars aligning. That doesn't happen for cursed teams like Dallas so I am ready to go on the record that removing the Jones family from running the football operations would guarantee a Dallas Cowboys appearance in a title game in 5 years or less.
 

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Ive been coming here for years, since the site on the Cowboys website went away. Every off season its the same thing. People complaining about what the team is NOT doing. Last year they were whining about kicker and how we should be signing Crosby to a deal(one that have been costly) and then pow, we ended up with maybe the best kicker in the league.

So it made me think..... when was the last time we had an off season BEFORE the draft that you stood up and said Damn! what a great job the FO did this year? Im thinking for most of you, that is never. Im thinking for most of you, its the same old this front office sucks and does nothing correct.

Whats the point of my post? to say relax. You cant judge any off season in April. Yea, yea, I know, but its been 735 years since they have done anything in the playoffs and blah blah blah.
2016 was exciting. Looking back though, fools gold.
 

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Getting Jerry Jones out of the way practically does. Hell, other teams make a title game once every 20 years just on the stars aligning. That doesn't happen for cursed teams like Dallas so I am ready to go on the record that removing the Jones family from running the football operations would guarantee a Dallas Cowboys appearance in a title game in 5 years or less.
It’s not easy getting to a title game. It took the Lions 32 years to get back to one. The Browns haven’t been to a title game since the mid 80s. The Texans have never been to a title game. Getting Jerry out of the way guarantees nothing. It’s easy to going record making an outlandish prediction when you know the Joneses aren’t going anywhere.
 

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well damn... you were right on Pollard.... how much have you been wrong on? Should I start researching? You seem to want to label me as some homer.... you are nuts. How many times have you ever heard me say this is the year? We are winning the SB this year? Here, Ill help you out... NEVER.

Guess what, i can say every single year team X isnt winning the SB because this move and that move are horrible and their front office is pathetic.... I could do that for soccer, and I couldnt name you 2 soccer teams, but guess what? Id be right 95% of the time. Just because you said Pollard wasnt good enough to be the every down guy you are some expert? Id guess if I went back and found your thoughts on the past 6 drafts, there would be a whole lot of your "Ëvaluatoons," that ended up being absolute garbage.

How many times have you read someone in here saying damn, the Cowboys blew it by not taking player X, and player X ends up being an absolute BUST! Hell, even before this season half or more of this board said CeeDee Lamb was not a number 1..... how did that turn out?

Out of the first 64 players taken in the first 2 rounds, how many end up being garbage? Probably half or so.

Fine, provide your positive narrative. Tell us how you liked the moves and decisions that didn’t bring us more success or your instincts and insights didn’t see it coming .

Instead of just attempting to discredit those who do provide theirs simply cause they’re negative , overly critical or not as optimistic or positive as you’d prefer or see which comes off as labeled.

Perhaps you should do a little more research. Perhaps there are some fans here which do have some better instincts. I certainly have seen some better than mine.

This is what a forum is all about. Not just attempting to shoot down others but providing your argument to oppose. Which I haven’t seen from you beyond angry at others who oppose your sentiments.
 

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This is just another calling out negative rhetoric thread.

Boo hoo some fans aren’t as positive and supportive of our front office and ownership as you. Provide your opinions and Get over it.

If not perhaps this format isn’t a good place for you.
 

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I mistook you for another poster still this is clearly a rebuild not some Super Bowl contending team. Draft won't change much.
Reid isn’t a Dak Homer. He’s more of a Jethro supporter though. And overall optimistic fan . Which is fine .

You don’t travel to several games a year if you’re not believing in what we’re doing.
 

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Ive been coming here for years, since the site on the Cowboys website went away. Every off season its the same thing. People complaining about what the team is NOT doing. Last year they were whining about kicker and how we should be signing Crosby to a deal(one that have been costly) and then pow, we ended up with maybe the best kicker in the league.

So it made me think..... when was the last time we had an off season BEFORE the draft that you stood up and said Damn! what a great job the FO did this year? Im thinking for most of you, that is never. Im thinking for most of you, its the same old this front office sucks and does nothing correct.

Whats the point of my post? to say relax. You cant judge any off season in April. Yea, yea, I know, but its been 735 years since they have done anything in the playoffs and blah blah blah.
And every year we can count on you for a "relax" post. To you, winning anything meaningful is blah blah blah. To most of us here, we want a Super Bowl.
 

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And every year we can count on you for a "relax" post. To you, winning anything meaningful is blah blah blah. To most of us here, we want a Super Bowl.
There are fans who choose to buy into the hype. It’s simply more fun for them wanting to believe . Which is fine. Just don’t expect everyone to be as excited.
 

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And every year we can count on you for a "relax" post. To you, winning anything meaningful is blah blah blah. To most of us here, we want a Super Bowl.
Every year???? looks like you been around a few months.
 
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Ive been coming here for years, since the site on the Cowboys website went away. Every off season its the same thing. People complaining about what the team is NOT doing. Last year they were whining about kicker and how we should be signing Crosby to a deal(one that have been costly) and then pow, we ended up with maybe the best kicker in the league.

So it made me think..... when was the last time we had an off season BEFORE the draft that you stood up and said Damn! what a great job the FO did this year? Im thinking for most of you, that is never. Im thinking for most of you, its the same old this front office sucks and does nothing correct.

Whats the point of my post? to say relax. You cant judge any off season in April. Yea, yea, I know, but its been 735 years since they have done anything in the playoffs and blah blah blah.
I remember you from the old site. Maybe since Jimmy Johnson. Around 2000 I was weariing a Cowboys Tee shirt. Nobody liked that.
 

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Last time is said this was a great offseason was when we drafted CD and Diggs. That was a
Massive one two punch.
 

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Not all of us totally agreed. We warned he wasn’t enough to fully be an every down RB to carry the load recommending a greater supporting cast.

A big part of these forum settings or platform is to provide our analysts and critique . We don’t all have to agree on strategies, etc . And we don’t have to all agree with the decisions and moves the team makes.

Much like many were counting on Mazi to make an impact . Many felt it was negative not to expect . Who knows, maybe he comes on this year but until that happens it’s fair game to critique.

And that’s what this all boils down to. Offering our thoughts on different aspects and subject matters . And unfortunately until there’s more success in the playoffs there’s liable to be more harsh and repetitive dialogue than homerism.

I’d say the criticism and more negative narrative is warranted. That said there’s always hope and a place for optimistic rhetoric.
A simple evaluation of Pollard's skillset easily showed that he wasn't the starter type we needed.
 

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Winning the off-season on paper doesn't mean you'll have success on the field-- that's true. But to have success, you have to stack good to great off-seasons.

I think all of us recognize that the FO isn't complete garbage. They field competitive regular season teams, which is an accomplishment.

But to take the next step, they have to break away from the status quo because clearly that has only lead to early playoff exits.

It's natural to be frustrated when it looks like we're just running the same off-season playbook, yet again.
Apparently the problem here is you don't get what a good or bad offseason looks like because fans don't get to do that here I've already seen them straight up say things like historically bad offseason you keep saying these are bad offseasons and somehow we were apparently won 36 games two division titles going to the playoffs three straight years you can't do that if you're having bad offseason what fans want and what the team does when they don't match fans say it's a bad offseason that's your problem not the front office..

Again show me the Kansas City Chiefs last three offseasons and show me where they're doing all this ridiculous all in high risk big time free agent acquisitions and stacking their teams with all the best names???

Literally just cause two or three teams decide to do it that way they try to gobble up all the big names make some fancy trades they are not ending up with the trophy yes it's nice for the fans to get the names that they want in the draft and in the offseason there are hundreds of great players they may not be elite they may not carry the big names they're still left in free agency they're available for trades you're saying this front office doesn't know what they're doing and they're not having good all seasons that's an opinion because on the field they're top 6 team..

So yes I'm calling the fan base out your opinions do not matter this is a very experienced front office a very experienced coaching staff and they literally are doing their jobs every offseason to field the best team with the parameters of the salary cap and all the other things they're tampered with you know overcoming injuries and whatnot.. Yet this fanbase has an ego that they think because it didn't go their way on their timeline like this has already been declared a bad offseason with five months left to go literally March 14th take a look at your calendar Yup it's April 5th how many weeks is that 2 now in week 3 of free agency with five months ahead of us I'd say the offseason just getting started it is not over..

I'm gonna say this for the last time the last three years these fan base collectively has declared the offseasons bad and yet somehow we managed to beat the Philadelphia Eagles twice for the division and they're supposed to be the most aggressive players in the offseason and where's somehow beating him doing nothing like not knowing what they're doing early playoff exits happen to all teams no matter how aggressive they are by the way you do realize in our division that the giants and the Commanders are should say the commanders have been more aggressive they spent more money in free agency than the rest of the division how does that help them?/​
well fans need to do is stop trying to be nostradamus stop trying to be something they are not you are not professionals you do not know anything except what you learn online what you think you see with your eyes and hear with your ears that doesn't make you a professional the professionals rely at the start they reside in the front office there are hundre.... 1200 people that work for the dallas Cowboys.. There are literally more scouts and more layers of management and people working hard behind the scenes than just the mouthpiece you don't like just because you don't like Jerry and Steven doesn't mean they don't have enough professionals to help them build a team you all think the team should be built already that's your problem but the results are just that a top six team in the league is not a bad front office it isn't even a bad year it could be so much worse we could be the team that never makes the playoffs and that struggle to get the 500..​
 

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To be honest, trading for Gilmore and Cooks last offseason, then finally drafting a NT in Mazi seemed like a fairly solid talent acquistion period last year. Obviously the Cowboys still didn't get the results they wanted, but that felt much better than this offseason so far.
 

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Ive been coming here for years, since the site on the Cowboys website went away. Every off season its the same thing. People complaining about what the team is NOT doing. Last year they were whining about kicker and how we should be signing Crosby to a deal(one that have been costly) and then pow, we ended up with maybe the best kicker in the league.

So it made me think..... when was the last time we had an off season BEFORE the draft that you stood up and said Damn! what a great job the FO did this year? Im thinking for most of you, that is never. Im thinking for most of you, its the same old this front office sucks and does nothing correct.

Whats the point of my post? to say relax. You cant judge any off season in April. Yea, yea, I know, but its been 735 years since they have done anything in the playoffs and blah blah blah.
Yes. There is so much winning in this organization to justify that never saying “good offseason” has somebow been the wrong opinion. What a stupid post
 

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Ive been coming here for years, since the site on the Cowboys website went away. Every off season its the same thing. People complaining about what the team is NOT doing. Last year they were whining about kicker and how we should be signing Crosby to a deal(one that have been costly) and then pow, we ended up with maybe the best kicker in the league.

So it made me think..... when was the last time we had an off season BEFORE the draft that you stood up and said Damn! what a great job the FO did this year? Im thinking for most of you, that is never. Im thinking for most of you, its the same old this front office sucks and does nothing correct.

Whats the point of my post? to say relax. You cant judge any off season in April. Yea, yea, I know, but its been 735 years since they have done anything in the playoffs and blah blah blah.
I thought last year was one of the better off-seasons we’ve had in years.

The trades for Brandin Cooks and Stephon Gilmore and the new contract extension for Zack Martin seemed more like an off-season where the focus was winning now. Had there been a couple more FA signings and if the 2023 draft been more immediately impactful, it would have been a great off-season. But it was better than most the last decade.

Last off-season wasn’t as aggressive as many fans would have liked, but for this front office it was more aggressive than usual. But sadly, our FO is still using an ancient model of re-tooling their roster. NFL Teams winning multiple playoff games these days are built with a combination of good drafts, smart but selective free agent signings, and flexible long term cap management.

This offseason so far has been a head scratcher by any metric.
 

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I remember you from the old site. Maybe since Jimmy Johnson. Around 2000 I was weariing a Cowboys Tee shirt. Nobody liked that.
IM not sure how long, but DieHardBlues gave me some dates a few months back. It seems impossible that we have been coming to Cowboys forums for 25 years.
 
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