3 reasons the F.O. Has leverage on Dak if they have the guts to use it

Chasing6

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I get that the past suggests team will line up for Dak.

But how does Dak have leverage if Jerry and Co.(possibly) dont care if he stays or goes unless its at their price?

If the team decision makers dont care...but Dak can still go get paid...who loses?
Dak's leverage is he will arguable make more money leaving Dallas or he can choose to take less with the team he thinks has a chance to make a run in the playoffs. If he thinks that is Dallas, then maybe he takes less.
 

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Giving Dak the no trade clause was a huge mistake but I believe they could be in the drivers seat if they man up and it could help with other negotiations in the future.

1 Dak realistically has 5 or 6 years left in his career and one year could make a huge difference in the only category Dak has an opportunity to shine. Stats! Sitting a year could be the difference between retiring as the leader in several categories or dropping down the list.

2. Dallas truly is a better place to play QB than any other. Aikman and Romo would not have the jobs they currently have if they had played for the Jets. Not to mention the current endorsements and status that comes with QB’ing the Cowboys.

3. He truly wants to be here. There is no other team he would rather play for.

Offer him what you believe he is worth. If he declines. Ask him if he would prefer to be traded or to mentor the other QB’s on the roster and make him the highest paid clipboard holder in the history of the NFL. If he decides to sign do not give him another no trade clause.

Do you want to be the highest paid player in NFL history or do you want to be a champion? If the answer is the prior you’re going to have to do it elsewhere.
#3? He wants to play here...WHY?

Because there's no accountability and a big check. Take those away (okay...we can do at least one!)and see how bad he wants to play here.
 

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Giving Dak the no trade clause was a huge mistake but I believe they could be in the drivers seat if they man up and it could help with other negotiations in the future.

1 Dak realistically has 5 or 6 years left in his career and one year could make a huge difference in the only category Dak has an opportunity to shine. Stats! Sitting a year could be the difference between retiring as the leader in several categories or dropping down the list.

2. Dallas truly is a better place to play QB than any other. Aikman and Romo would not have the jobs they currently have if they had played for the Jets. Not to mention the current endorsements and status that comes with QB’ing the Cowboys.

3. He truly wants to be here. There is no other team he would rather play for.

Offer him what you believe he is worth. If he declines. Ask him if he would prefer to be traded or to mentor the other QB’s on the roster and make him the highest paid clipboard holder in the history of the NFL. If he decides to sign do not give him another no trade clause.

Do you want to be the highest paid player in NFL history or do you want to be a champion? If the answer is the prior you’re going to have to do it elsewhere.
1. Another team would only trade for Dak if they were planning to give him a new contract. The team would agree with Dak/agent on a contract before the trade.

2. Dak/agent would not turn down a trade if the team was willing to meet their contract demands.

3. The no-trade clause is basically irrelevant due to #1 and #2 above.
 

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I don't get it. Dak has generational money now. He, his kids, grandkids, even his brother and his brother's kids would have enough for lifetimes. He has a daughter now, and his girlfriend lives in the area, right? So why shouldn't he accept a little less to help the team and maybe, just maybe have a shot at a championship and a legacy? We've seen what happens when he gets paid what he thinks he's worth. The team suffers and he chokes. He might still choke with less money, but at least we could afford even more talent that might help with that.

Does the man want to teach his daughter to be greedy at the cost of everything else, or to be generous and help those around him? That's the real question and what his true legacy will be. What she will eventually see him do. His choices he makes. Making millions more from a new contract won't affect him all that much financially since he made so much from endorsements and this current contract. In my opinion, here's what he SHOULD do now: Tell the team he's willing to get paid less to help the team. Tell Jerry it's predicated on some form of opportunities Jerry could offer post-career, like a job QB coaching or something, maybe even some sort of joint business venture after. Then Dak should get some cognitive behavioral therapy to fix whatever is going on in his brain that causes him to panic and get that thousand yard stare in the playoffs. It's all mental. Even if he isn't the brightest QB, he's still capable. He just panics and makes mistakes. He does that and I'll buy back in a year or two.

But I guarantee he'd never do that because he's already shown he's all about the money at the cost of anything else. Like Jerry, it's actions and not words you should look at.
 

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Dak's leverage is he will arguable make more money leaving Dallas or he can choose to take less with the team he thinks has a chance to make a run in the playoffs. If he thinks that is Dallas, then maybe he takes less.
I get it...but thats not leverage to me if I dont care if my team starts over.

I dont get the leverage thing here.

Sure...Dak is a winner in all circumstances...but if the Cowboys think he is priced too high and they need to shed salary and rebuild anyway...there is no loser on either side. Am I wrong here?

I get it Dak is winning regardless...but I consider leverage as something that you can use to force a decision in your favor. If Dallas doesnt care about the direction of the decision...there is no leverage.

Both get what they want essentially.
 

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I get it...but thats not leverage to me if I dont care if my team starts over.

I dont get the leverage thing here.

Sure...Dak is a winner in all circumstances...but if the Cowboys think he is priced too high and they need to shed salary and rebuild anyway...there is no loser on either side. Am I wrong here?

I get it Dak is winning regardless...but I consider leverage as something that you can use to force a decision in your favor. If Dallas doesnt care about the direction of the decision...there is no leverage.

Both get what they want essentially.
Not leverage you, but Jerry is 80+ time is not on his side. He can't afford a rebuild. He nights as well sell the team at that point. Otherwise he will be miserable the remaining years of his life.
 

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I don't get it. Dak has generational money now. He, his kids, grandkids, even his brother and his brother's kids would have enough for lifetimes. He has a daughter now, and his girlfriend lives in the area, right? So why shouldn't he accept a little less to help the team and maybe, just maybe have a shot at a championship and a legacy? We've seen what happens when he gets paid what he thinks he's worth. The team suffers and he chokes. He might still choke with less money, but at least we could afford even more talent that might help with that.

Does the man want to teach his daughter to be greedy at the cost of everything else, or to be generous and help those around him? That's the real question and what his true legacy will be. What she will eventually see him do. His choices he makes. Making millions more from a new contract won't affect him all that much financially since he made so much from endorsements and this current contract. In my opinion, here's what he SHOULD do now: Tell the team he's willing to get paid less to help the team. Tell Jerry it's predicated on some form of opportunities Jerry could offer post-career, like a job QB coaching or something, maybe even some sort of joint business venture after. Then Dak should get some cognitive behavioral therapy to fix whatever is going on in his brain that causes him to panic and get that thousand yard stare in the playoffs. It's all mental. Even if he isn't the brightest QB, he's still capable. He just panics and makes mistakes. He does that and I'll buy back in a year or two.

But I guarantee he'd never do that because he's already shown he's all about the money at the cost of anything else. Like Jerry, it's actions and not words you should look at.
Seen your username here for years...

Are you suggesting that you have never seen a convo on this very board that details why athletes in a position of significant cap ask for as much as they can?

Quick recap...

Those players Dak is supposedly taking from on his team...would probably do it to him.

Are the players Dak takes less money for going to help his kids eat if they need it? Are they going to be by Dak's side when in Hospice?

More importantly...how do you know that if you take a discount the team spends the money wisely? Supposedly Miami Heat lied to LeBron about this very thing. Lebron says he wont do it again also says taking a discount hurts other players in the league value wise.


?
 

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1. Another team would only trade for Dak if they were planning to give him a new contract. The team would agree with Dak/agent on a contract before the trade.

2. Dak/agent would not turn down a trade if the team was willing to meet their contract demands.

3. The no-trade clause is basically irrelevant due to #1 and #2 above.
The “no-trade clause” is relevant because of “#1 and #2”. (#1) If it were not for the NTC the Cowboys could trade Dak to any team without him having to agree to a contract before the trade. (#2) Dak/agent could not turn down a trade regardless of contract demands, or any other demands. I don’t understand why so many fans cannot grasp the significance of a no trade clause. Fans wanting some sort of perverse revenge on Dak delude themselves into believing Dak and his Agent really are not in a great negotiating position. They are. Stop crying about it. Jerry Jones signed off on the contract.
 

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1. Another team would only trade for Dak if they were planning to give him a new contract. The team would agree with Dak/agent on a contract before the trade.

2. Dak/agent would not turn down a trade if the team was willing to meet their contract demands.

3. The no-trade clause is basically irrelevant due to #1 and #2 above.
No it is not.

1. He may not want to set a demand and test the free market.
2. He may want to go to the highest bidder
3. He may want to go to the team with the best oline
4. He may want the team with the best RB.
5. He may want a team with the best defense like Rodgers did.

He has much more many options being free. Dallas may not like the compensation from the team he wants to go to.

Plus why would Dak want to join a team with no draft picks to begin with???
 

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Dak has all the leverage. The Cowboys have no viable QB behind him and if he’s not extended by the FA period next year, he’ll be signed by another team.
Promise?.................
 

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The biggest favor they could do for Prescott is not play him, thereby not subjecting him to injury.
Having no “stats” for 2024 isn’t going to prevent him from getting near record offers as a FA. An injury would.
Also, you can’t be cutthroat like that and expect to continue to do business within the league…and what is the locker room going to look like with Dak on the bench while most of the players want him on the field?
The only way they get a discount is if Dak insists, which I doubt.

Just like the Elliott deal, they got absolutely murdered on the terms and are now paying for it. Either pay a non elite QB elite money or start over.
Dak will accept a discount, instead of 65M, he'll bite the bullet and settle for 60M.
And we thought he was greedy! :laugh:
 

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Dak has all the leverage. The Cowboys have no viable QB behind him and if he’s not extended by the FA period next year, he’ll be signed by another team.
Exactly......it's pretty simple. Not hard to see at all
 

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Giving Dak the no trade clause was a huge mistake but I believe they could be in the drivers seat if they man up and it could help with other negotiations in the future.

1 Dak realistically has 5 or 6 years left in his career and one year could make a huge difference in the only category Dak has an opportunity to shine. Stats! Sitting a year could be the difference between retiring as the leader in several categories or dropping down the list.

2. Dallas truly is a better place to play QB than any other. Aikman and Romo would not have the jobs they currently have if they had played for the Jets. Not to mention the current endorsements and status that comes with QB’ing the Cowboys.

3. He truly wants to be here. There is no other team he would rather play for.

Offer him what you believe he is worth. If he declines. Ask him if he would prefer to be traded or to mentor the other QB’s on the roster and make him the highest paid clipboard holder in the history of the NFL. If he decides to sign do not give him another no trade clause.

Do you want to be the highest paid player in NFL history or do you want to be a champion? If the answer is the prior you’re going to have to do it elsewhere.
You’re merely reiterating the point I made several weeks ago. I proposed this and stand by it.
 

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Dak and his agent carefully negotiated the current contract which includes a no-trade clause and no-tag clause. It's hard to imagine they're not going to milk that for all it's worth. They deliberately orchestrated this scenario.
He needs to sit. All season. Then he can FO.
 
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