Sadly there were individuals in the military who would take advantage and milk injuries to get out of duty. He calls them Sick Bay Commandos...we would call them Private Profiles. In the army if you get certain medical restrictions they call it a profile hence the nickname private profiles.
It was a lawful order. You could have been charged with insubordination. They’re proper ways to deal with that. I guess the Army is lax in discipline at least in this regard.
Hey dude get over yourself. I wasn’t talking about Raymans son in the least but just your insubordination. In some services, that Col would have chews your *** out where your right or wrong for the sheer insubordination. You let some hot shot like you who thinks he knows better get away with it and more will follow. You say yes sir to the Cololnel and THEN request mast up the chain. Army’s different I guess.
I always said yes sir and no sir. I did not call anyone any names nor did I tell him he was stupid.
Why not take your nonsense out of this thread ....... be respectful to Raymen and his family.
That was NOT a lawful order. There are no two ways about it. Oh and he could have wrote me up on the spot or send me up the rails but not letting an officer force a soldier to go back to work when medical doctors have said they are not to do so is in no way shape or form a lawful order.
God help us and God help Raymons son.
I would NEVER do such a thing.
As stated earlier.
I watched a Gunny work a Colonel over. Did it absolutely correctly by the book but it certainly happened.
np. I am able to post again .as I was benched for 3 days. Not gonna get into that but the update is as of last night he might get to go home Friday morning, today. They will do every recheck on him first to make sure no more issues. His health and safety, as with any soldier, should be number 1. Lets hope the powers that be above him don't try to pull rank again and rush him back to work. THIS TIME, maybe he should just say NO and follow the exact time off orders by the doctor. I have no idea if he talked to a Jag or if he is still thinking of that. I am trying to stay out of his way on that one and will support whichever route he wants to take. Just praying he has no setbacks.I thank God everyday for that kid. He was a joy to raise. Never 1 problem. Wish they were all that easy lol.
100% correct. My son and I talked many times about guys like that in boot camp and guys more current that are in the military for all the wrong reasons and should never be there. Its exactly the way you framed it. You nailed it. He joined because he loves his Country and has his heart and mind in the right place. Hes a grounded young man. He is the leader of his unit but has guys above him that SHOULD NOT be in positions of power. He was jilted, snubbed twice actually from being a Sergeant. He had the points, did all the tests or whatever, he called it something else. He was told he made it, then once he came back from Korea , that duty station at Camp Walker SK, back to Camp Roberts, SOMEONE there above him denied him. My guess is its someone like his current C/O that he trusted that is suppose to go to bat for him, that didn't. Just my hunch. He is loyal to his oath he made and will carry on accordingly, thats the type of old-school soldier he is. When he commits, thats it. Right now, Im only focused on his health and he learned a valuable lesson, he will not be going back to work early even if they try to force him. Whatever the doctors tell him, he will stick to this time. His life is more important . His mental toughness is high level. He will battle thru it and we will support him. I sure thank you and everyone else on here for the support and love and knowledge. TY for your service btw Brain. Also to everyone else that served. His late Grandpa is proud of him.He served also in the Army. He is a 5th generation Army kid. Last night they would have let him go home but they did a recheck of his drain tube and they found a little trickle of fluid so they decided to wait one more day. Which is good, I am glad they are being more cautious this time.
He needs to at least talk to his immediate CO about this. Make sure the SOB that ordered him back to duty against doctors orders will not try it again. I really wish he would talk to JAG. I do not trust an officer who does something like this. If he does it once, he will do it again.
ditto. I agree! I just brought that up to him again while on the phone. I warned him. I don't trust his C/O totally. Not sure he's going to bat for him like he should. I don't want to get involved; I prefer him to do what he feels to guard against this again. BUT if I need to, I just might do it. But as a man and a soldier, Im trying to let him sort this out. I wish I knew how to get ahold of the right dept there at Camp Roberts to talk to someone about it, without them coming down on him. When he was in Camp Walker SK the c/o there was outstanding but where he is now, its a mess.
