The genius of Howie Roseman

I’ve been moaning over this for years. They are never ahead of anything. They let a situation get dire, leave it as a problem for a season, then force themselves to draft that position early because free agency isn’t worth the money according to the kid. Seems to be going ok for a few that actually know the players on other teams.

The RB position is case in point. They knew for years they would be without Elliott and Pollard at one point….yet they ignored it in the draft several years in a row to take some serious flops and were left with next to nothing….and now they will take Jeanty at 12 when they need to take a shot at an impact DT.

It’s tough enough to win in this league when you’re really good at building a team. These two have no chance, yet truly believe they are great at it.
To sum it up, being good at crafting is not the same thing as being good at building a team. The Cowboys have hit on some players but not having a plan those players never really fit into an identity. They are guys Dallas loves to hype as future stars but their careers come and go and none of them reach a SB unless they leave Dallas.
 
The first thing that came to my mind was the guy who replaced Kelce. Kelce was one of the best at his position, and I couldn't help but think how they could replace him and not take a loss at the position.

I honestly don't see a drop in production at center if you could measure one for the eagles. Not like it's a weak link if that makes any sense. Did the tush push drop percentage wise for the eagles? I think everyone was saying Kelce AND Hurts was the reason why philly could run the play better than anyone else.
Watch the Eagles OL and you can see there is a dropoff at C. Kelce is a future HoF player. Jurgens is good but he is no Kelce. What makes the interior of the Eagles OL so strong is the guy playing LG. Dickerson is a beast. He is their version of Zack Martin in his prime. If you watch the Eagles run the tush push now notice how Hurts takes the snap and gets behind Dickerson. He used to go right behind Kelce.

But the point is still valid. They knew Kelce would be retiring soon, so they drafted Jurgens and took a year to groom him as Kelce's replacement. The Cowboys knew Martin would be retiring soon, or that his contract would be up. Who is his replacement? Bass? Hoffman? If it turns out to be Hoffman, it is luck, not planning.
 
If you look at all the SB participants from about 2016 forward, their GMs are masters of the cap. Guys like Roseman, Les Snead of the rams, Brett Veach of KC, Tampa Bay’s Jason Licht are just a few of the GMs who spend NOW and somehow are still able to compete down the road.

Front offices worried about “kicking the can down the road” are usually watching the SB at home. The Jones FO literally does not know how to manage the cap. Full stop. And that’s one of the biggest reasons for the last 3 decades.
 
The original poster is delusional, Howie Roseman is not doing anything genius, look back at all the misses more than his hits that people want to focus on
 
The original poster is delusional, Howie Roseman is not doing anything genius, look back at all the misses more than his hits that people want to focus on
Look at his drafts over the last 7-8 years. More hits than misses. Look at how many starters that are at least good they have on the field. Look at his much depth was drafted and on the team. You don’t miss more than hit and get to three SB’s in seven years.
 
The original poster is delusional, Howie Roseman is not doing anything genius, look back at all the misses more than his hits that people want to focus on
Dude, stop. He put together a super bowl team, and w/ a limited QB. Don't get so caught up in the details that you miss the big pic. Know why he was able to miss some in the draft? Because he was smart enough to get multiple 1sts for Wentz.
 
The eagles are one victory away from being Super Bowl champs!
I’ll take their cap management over our cap management 7 days a week and twice on Sunday!
 
Jerry’s insistence on having personal relationships with players doesn’t help.

That’s part of “his way” though….friends, family, loyalty….
Which is fine for an owner, but incredibly stupid for a GM. That is quite simply not his job. There absolutely must be someone high up in the org who can remove all emotions and sentiment and do their dammm job.
 
I’ve been moaning over this for years. They are never ahead of anything. They let a situation get dire, leave it as a problem for a season, then force themselves to draft that position early because free agency isn’t worth the money according to the kid. Seems to be going ok for a few that actually know the players on other teams.

The RB position is case in point. They knew for years they would be without Elliott and Pollard at one point….yet they ignored it in the draft several years in a row to take some serious flops and were left with next to nothing….and now they will take Jeanty at 12 when they need to take a shot at an impact DT.

It’s tough enough to win in this league when you’re really good at building a team. These two have no chance, yet truly believe they are great at it.
Very well said.

Completely reactive. They have consistently let positions fall completely apart before addressing them. That's one of the reasons we draft so badly.

They tried in FA, and failed miserably. Because they are non-football guys who simply do not understand football at the NFL level.
 
Sure they are but they are playing in the Super Bowl again as well.
Yeap!
We also will be kicking the can down the road in a few seasons but we will be more like the Jets, Jaguars and Browns when we do!
 
Which is fine for an owner, but incredibly stupid for a GM. That is quite simply not his job. There absolutely must be someone high up in the org who can remove all emotions and sentiment and do their dammm job.
He gets way to emotional and way to attached to players and even coaches. That's why Garrett can finish out his contract twice. Garrett should have been gone after 2017 (and 2013 to be quite honest). That's why McCarthy can finish out his contract when he should have been gone the second we lost to the Packers. He is soft when it comes to making those type of decisions. He had no choice with Wade due to how that season went but if they at least competed against the Packers in that game, he probably coaches out the rest of that season as well.
 
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Yeap!
We also will be kicking the can down the road in a few seasons but we will be more like the Jets, Jaguars and Browns when we do!
The big difference between the cowboys and those teams you've mentioned? The cowboys stay on a winning side of the season most of the years and make the playoffs from time to time. Unlike the Jets, Jaguars and Browns, the cowboys are the most profitable NFL team in the world.

That gives the Jones a little leeway LOL
 
The big difference between the cowboys and those teams you've mentioned? The cowboys stay on a winning side of the season most of the years and make the playoffs from time to time. Unlike the Jets, Jaguars and Browns, the cowboys are the most profitable NFL team in the world.

That gives the Jones a little leeway LOL
That’s all that Jerry cares about anyway!

Profit and keep the publicity good or bad going for the Cowboys!
 
I want to see 85-86 year old Jerry try to continue to sell this mess after what’s about to happen with a declining Prescott and no free agent additions.

Honestly how is this not headed into disaster? Great drafts?? Hahahahaha.

Can’t live off the past forever and the media seems more inclined to point things out for the ignorant majority group of fans that think all is well.

At this point I just want him humiliated. The idea of winning has way left my building.
 
The original poster is delusional, Howie Roseman is not doing anything genius, look back at all the misses more than his hits that people want to focus on
The Eagles have five people up for awards; all five are new to the team this year. Barkley, Mitchell, DeJean, Baun, Fangio, but he's not a genius..ok :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
 
The Eagles have five people up for awards; all five are new to the team this year. Barkley, Mitchell, DeJean, Baun, Fangio, but he's not a genius..ok :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Nothing but luck...

That said, I honestly thought Wentz would be an albatross around their necks screwing them over for years. Now I think Dak may be an albatross around our necks, but I'm praying that I'm wrong.
 
The original poster is delusional, Howie Roseman is not doing anything genius, look back at all the misses more than his hits that people want to focus on
“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.”——-Wayne Gretzky. The Cowboys problem is not how good a GM Roseman is. It’s how bad a GM Jerry Jones is.
 
Nothing but luck...

That said, I honestly thought Wentz would be an albatross around their necks screwing them over for years. Now I think Dak may be an albatross around our necks, but I'm praying that I'm wrong.
Really don't see how you could be.
 
Nothing but luck...

That said, I honestly thought Wentz would be an albatross around their necks screwing them over for years. Now I think Dak may be an albatross around our necks, but I'm praying that I'm wrong.
One might be luck but five is genius.
 
One might be luck but five is genius.
I think if you're a billionaire who owns a NFL team, the question becomes how bad you want to win the super bowl when you play the money game with players and the salary cap, as well as do your homework on having a game plan.

I was looking at Becton on the offensive line who came over from the Jets. Appears his stay with the jets wasn't very productive, Philly picked him up on a one year cheap deal, and he's now changed positions on the line and appears to be having his best year in the NFL. I read an interesting quote from him on the difference between the Eagles and the Jets, and he stated

“I would say that they’re very confident. I would say that the Philly organization is very confident, they know what they’re about to do, they know what they’re gonna do, and they’re gonna go do it.”

The sad thing is I don't think you can say the same thing about Jerry and son...

One name that kept popping up though is Jeff Stoutland, their offensive line coach. Apparently the guy is good given how the Eagles offensive line has performed since he came to the eagles (been reading that a lot of players is giving this guy credit). Guess my only point is for any organization to be successful, you have to have good people in key coaching positions to grow the team and that it all just doesn't fall under the GM and ownership having a game plan acquiring and letting players go, but on the coaches they hire as well.
 

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