Draft priorty

[kskboys]

Much talk about drafting a WR with are first pick. If we select a WR at 12, he better be an absolute stud. We need a another WR but what we’re paying Lamb huge $$, can we really afford it? I’m convinced the regardelss of need we should be selecting the best available player, rds 1-3.
Im hoping for of DT, OT, MLB or perhaps a Stud CB. We need to run and stop the run first and foremost.
Or if we trade down get more picks then draft WR, Edge LB, or RB in round 1
Discuss

We need to come out of this draft w/ 2 stud DTs, period.

 

[kskboys]

Just not day 1. The best TE out there doesn't change this offense enough for a day 1 pick. day 2 maybe, day 3 yes if the value is there.

But only if we've already addressed the DT position w/ 2 picks.

 

[Chasing6]

IMO WR is a fantastically overvalued position that Dallas is currently heavily invested in with CeeDee. Its really far down the list on the holes to fill list. WR2 is only going to get a handful of balls thrown his way.

A dominant RG who, without injury, will play 100% of the snaps. Improve our running game and protect an aging $60M per year investment.

 

[blueblood70]

IMO WR is a fantastically overvalued position that Dallas is currently heavily invested in with CeeDee. Its really far down the list on the holes to fill list. WR2 is only going to get a handful of balls thrown his way.

I'm not sure you can say it's overvalued we definitely need something better at wide receiver two they get plenty of targets I mean why do you think Cincinnati just paid both Jamar Chase and T Higgins literally top pay for both starting and a backup wide receiver why do you think last year san Francisco paid Brandon aIuk even though they had Samuels and other options on their team including a better tight end..

But let's touch on actual Super Bowl winner got AJ Brown and you got Devante Smith under large contracts and they have Dallas Goddard and they had Saquan Barkley all under contract now that's multiple targets of multiple weapons and they won the Super Bowl..

So now we're just talking about getting a rookie under a rookie contract he's well worth in your opinion overvaluing no he's worth picking high you think Sam Darnold would have been doing anything over there resurrecting his career at Minnesota without having both Jefferson and the young backup plus there was a 3rd option there and I think they have a pretty good tight end as well..

I'm just naming a few, last one.. And everyone wants to talk about how Gino Smith was a solid player made less money than Prescott was pretty good over there do you realize at one point he had Metcalf Lockett and that young stud they had three wide receivers over there as targets plus they had drafted a couple running backs although the running backs haven't become dynamic...

And this may be something for the other side of the argument, But even the Jets had Garrett Wilson And everyone seemed enamored about them going and getting a trade for Devante Adams...

So yeah if you don't have to go and give up multiple draft picks and big money and all you're doing is using one of your valuable draft picks to bring over a young stud at wide receiver to help your offense out then I don't see this as being overvalued I see it as a need.. Does it need to be in round one probably not but the best way to win both sides of this argument is trade down 5 to 8 spots then get your target because there's 3 to 4 really good wide receivers that have 1st round grades you don't have to pick them at 12 or you can wait and get one in the second round you can move around but saying it's overvalued and that we don't need one is insane maybe we shouldn't have used a 4th round pick on Mingo..lol But that's hindsight because if we had known that up front maybe Jerry doesn't use that 4th on him and we end up with Bucky Irvin here and now we're not worried about the running back position this year....

 

[doomsday9084]

A dominant RG who, without injury, will play 100% of the snaps. Improve our running game and protect an aging $60M per year investment.

One of the best reasons to invest early picks in the line is the fact that they play a very long career and the hit rate on them is good. Its a safe, long term investment.

 

[exciter]

It’s very possible that Warren is BPA at 12.

I wouldn’t hate the pick. I’d rather have a stud TE than a WR that may or may not contribute right away.

It’ll just make the Schoonmaker pick look all that much worse, but they shouldn’t compound one mistake with another.

I’m not sure about offering up significant money for Ferguson. I like him and he has shown flashes, but being special may not be in the cards. Could be a four year and move on situation with him.

Are you sure Warren is going to contribute right away? I’ve read one article claiming he’s never played traditional TE and that he’s going to need a year of development learning the position in the NFL. There’s been other rumblings since.

 

[fivetwos]

Are you sure Warren is going to contribute right away? I’ve read one article claiming he’s never played traditional TE and that he’s going to need a year of development learning the position in the NFL. There’s been other rumblings since.

I couldn’t be sure, no. Even the folks who are paid to make those calls are wrong way more than the meteorologists we complain about.

He is rated kind of high, but so were many TEs over the years taken in the mid first than didn’t pan out. Pitts went fourth overall and was considered uncoverable. Actually the top two top TE in the league lately were both mid rounders.

My point was more about, if you’re comparing apples to apples and each player hits their full upside, you’ve got a top of the league TE vs a WR2-type. Probably rather have the former. To which degree each player misses their upside is the big question.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Are you sure Warren is going to contribute right away? I’ve read one article claiming he’s never played traditional TE and that he’s going to need a year of development learning the position in the NFL. There’s been other rumblings since.

Yes he will contribute right away. This team has Schoon & Ferg so he would not have to be an 800+ snap plug and play TE, but his receiving ability and versatility lets you get him on the field in a variety of ways and allows him to contribute early on. We have the TE depth to bring him along slowly as a traditional inline blocker.

 

[exciter]

Yes he will contribute right away. This team has Schoon & Ferg so he would not have to be an 800+ snap plug and play TE, but his receiving ability and versatility lets you get him on the field in a variety of ways and allows him to contribute early on. We have the TE depth to bring him along slowly as a traditional inline blocker.

Drop a 12 on a TE I’d think you would want them to be more than a blocker!
The issue I’m seeing with Warren is the gimmicky alignments they used him in at PS aren’t going to work in the NFL. He’s not fast enough to play in the slot on a regular basis and his 6’5 frame that was so imposing for college safeties and corners isn’t going to be nearly as imposing at this level!

Just where he was rated when the draft process started I’d be nervous about buyer beware if he falls to 12!

 

[thunderpimp91]

Drop a 12 on a TE I’d think you would want them to be more than a blocker!
The issue I’m seeing with Warren is the gimmicky alignments they used him in at PS aren’t going to work in the NFL. He’s not fast enough to play in the slot on a regular basis and his 6’5 frame that was so imposing for college safeties and corners isn’t going to be nearly as imposing at this level!

Just where he was rated when the draft process started I’d be nervous about buyer beware if he falls to 12!

Fair take, I would just disagree. I always say buyer beware on TEs just because there is so much to learn out of the position. Outside of QB its may be the hardest position to project to the next level, but I think Warren is a fairly safe pick for the position with a high ceiling. He has enough production out of non gimmicky alignments that I dont really worry about him. Plus I think his size/speed combo is plenty fine to get snaps in at the slot position. Hes a legitimate threat in the RZ. He also just seems like he has a natural feel for finding openings in zone coverage.

Not to dismiss anything you're saying, its all valid, but I would have zero issue rolling the dice on this one.

 

[Chasing6]

It’s very possible that Warren is BPA at 12.

I wouldn’t hate the pick. I’d rather have a stud TE than a WR that may or may not contribute right away.

It’ll just make the Schoonmaker pick look all that much worse, but they shouldn’t compound one mistake with another.

I’m not sure about offering up significant money for Ferguson. I like him and he has shown flashes, but being special may not be in the cards. Could be a four year and move on situation with him.

No way we pick PBA, that is not an immediate need. Not going to happen.