The Eagles Jalen Hurts problem

HungryLion said:
Hurts has very real limitations. That limits their scheme and the plays they can run.

He just happens to play on an insanely stacked offense.

To his credit. He is clutch and isn’t afraid of big moments.

But his throwing limitations can and do hurt their offense.
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Good stuff, accurate.

He won the super bowl primarily w/ D.
 
KingCorcoran said:
Imagine being a New York Giants fan hearing and reading this story. Has to be like, OK, they have a real problem. Now, what’s ours?

In the last five seasons Philly is 56-22 with him starting regular season games. Hope they never get it their quarterback situation figured out.
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Yeah, that's like Quincy the Duck being the starting QB when we won 10 games and made the playoffs.
 
Risen Star said:


Some notes from @JFowlerESPN’s article on Jalen Hurts:

- pushed back on changes that would diversify the scheme,

- wanted to avoid playing under center

- reluctant to let it rip at times, particularly against zone coverage

- poor body language, not always bought in

- not the most coachable and the players notice

- diverts from the game plan and changes playcalls to an excessive degree
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hate to be that guy. if Dak was on their team they would have min 3 super bowls so far in the same span. we had no defense 2 years in a row and we still almost made playoffs. you put a defense like eagles and a front office that will load you up with players and Dak is in playoffs and going further.

our failures are not 100% on the QB.
 
No one's trading for him, not with the $100 million he'd still be owed. Maybe if he agreed to a new deal.

$100 million voided $ after he's gone. Eagles won a title but they'll pay for it dearly.
 
Hurts never was that good. The Sheeples fell for the really stupid HOF talk and elevated him. Hurts = Trent Dilfer = Brad Johnson = Doug Williams = Nick Foles.
 
TNCowboy said:
No one's trading for him, not with the $100 million he'd still be owed. Maybe if he agreed to a new deal.

$100 million voided $ after he's gone. Eagles won a title but they'll pay for it dearly.
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It’s better than not winning a title. Like the Cowboys and Dak, the Eagles gave him a NTC. He’s not going anywhere. He is still young, 27, so maybe there’s some progress to be made.
 
KingCorcoran said:
These kinds of revelations often galvanize a team. Do you think A J Brown is any less likely to be traded now?
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I think whatever the decision on AJ is, Howie has already made it. Philadelphia set the alltime NFL record for most points in a conference championship game and Super Bowl. Do we suddenly lose those games if AJ missed them with the flu? Last year we won the division by 4 games with AJ being disgruntled due to not getting the ball as much. Do we not win the division if he’s not getting the ball while on the bench or off the roster?

I think we’re built in a way that we wouldn’t miss our star receiver the same way other teams would. Trade him, don’t trade him; not really sure. Theres stuff in the background that we don’t know… did he ask to be traded? Then we most certainly would trade him. Is thirsty media hype and he’s actually okay with staying? Then we probably don’t trade him. Either way if we did do it I think it has to be in June, and we’ll probably get more for him due to the NFL erroneously devaluing future draft assets.
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
I think whatever the decision on AJ is, Howie has already made it. Philadelphia set the alltime NFL record for most points in a conference championship game and Super Bowl. Do we suddenly lose those games if AJ missed them with the flu? Last year we won the division by 4 games with AJ being disgruntled due to not getting the ball as much. Do we not win the division if he’s not getting the ball while on the bench or off the roster?

I think we’re built in a way that we wouldn’t miss our star receiver the same way other teams would. Trade him, don’t trade him; not really sure. Theres stuff in the background that we don’t know… did he ask to be traded? Then we most certainly would trade him. Is thirsty media hype and he’s actually okay with staying? Then we probably don’t trade him. Either way if we did do it I think it has to be in June, and we’ll probably get more for him due to the NFL erroneously devaluing future draft assets.
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It will be after June 1 if he is traded. I suspect with Puka’s personal challenges, Stafford’s likely final year, the Super Bowl in Los Angeles, the Rams may re-engage in trade talks.
 
TheRunningMan said:
He can actually talk about what a deep playoff run feels like. And give you a stat-line from playing in multiple Super Bowls and Championship games.

Dak could NEVER
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Another creative way of bringing Dak into a Jalen Hurts threads. Dak has nothing to do with Hurts or the Eagles.

In reality, Jalen Hurts has the same amount of Superbowl wins as Trent Dilfer. I think Trent Dilfer would have won 3 Superbowls with the same Eagles teams that Hurts only won one with.
 
GINeric said:
Another creative way of bringing Dak into a Jalen Hurts threads. Dak has nothing to do with Hurts or the Eagles.

In reality, Jalen Hurts has the same amount of Superbowl wins as Trent Dilfer. I think Trent Dilfer would have won 3 Superbowls with the same Eagles teams that Hurts only won one with.
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Don’t you feel, given the fact that Dak is a significantly more capable NFL quarterback, that it’s that much more embarrassing that in twice the number of years Jerry can’t provide Dak a roster that can compete for a Super Bowl that the Eagles managed to put around the Hurts.
 
KingCorcoran said:
Don’t you feel, given the fact that Dak is a significantly more capable NFL quarterback, that it’s that much more embarrassing that in twice the number of years Jerry can’t provide Dak a roster that can compete for a Super Bowl that the Eagles managed to put around the Hurts.
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who makes plays when the rubber hits the road in the playoffs?
Got a clue for you: it aint Dak
 
All these problems yet he played in two SBs and won one. Dak takes the same problems with nothing to show.
 
KingCorcoran said:
Don’t you feel, given the fact that Dak is a significantly more capable NFL quarterback, that it’s that much more embarrassing that in twice the number of years Jerry can’t provide Dak a roster that can compete for a Super Bowl that the Eagles managed to put around the Hurts.
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I definitely agree with you.
 
GMO415 said:
All these problems yet he played in two SBs and won one. Dak takes the same problems with nothing to show.
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This is very true. Now think about the fact that Jim Kelly had four chances at winning a Superbowl, yet Nick Foles and Trent Dilfer won a Superbowl in their first try.

Crazy huh....
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
Either way if we did do it I think it has to be in June, and we’ll probably get more for him due to the NFL erroneously devaluing future draft assets.
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Howie is a shark with trades, so this could be the plan if they do intend to move him

Have you guys been looking at 1st round WR's in the draft? Combine interviews, Official 30 visits?
 
Risen Star said:


Some notes from @JFowlerESPN’s article on Jalen Hurts:

- pushed back on changes that would diversify the scheme,

- wanted to avoid playing under center

- reluctant to let it rip at times, particularly against zone coverage

- poor body language, not always bought in

- not the most coachable and the players notice

- diverts from the game plan and changes playcalls to an excessive degree
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