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does it really matter to the dead if they are killed by a careless driver or a drunk driver?
It matters to those the dead leave behind who know that the death didn't have to happen because someone chose to take a stupid risk they knew was wrong but did it anyway (that's why there are laws for that). Unless you believe Steve and say it's 50-50. Are you also signing on to that nonsense? Wouldn't surprise me but just checking.
 
Yup.

I don’t think it was alcohol.

He had a very small window to drink.

Leave the golf course at 5PM.

Gas up and smash a tall one at the GoMart. (Who does this???)

Gets pulled over at 6:18PM

pure speculation on my part:

He may have taken some pain meds after getting in his car.

He has a bad back.

It had to be killing him. Plus he has a long drive.


Maybe he smoked a joint after the round of golf.

He has back problems. He could be using Marijuana for pain. If he smelled of weed and had bloodshot eyes. That would get him the OWI.

There’s quite a few possibilities of what it could be.
 
It matters to those the dead leave behind who know that the death didn't have to happen because someone chose to take a stupid risk they knew was wrong but did it anyway (that's why there are laws for that). Unless you believe Steve and say it's 50-50. Are you also signing on to that nonsense? Wouldn't surprise me but just checking.
https://www.cdc.gov/impaired-driving/facts/index.html

now how stupid do you feel?
 
It matters to those the dead leave behind who know that the death didn't have to happen because someone chose to take a stupid risk they knew was wrong but did it anyway (that's why there are laws for that). Unless you believe Steve and say it's 50-50. Are you also signing on to that nonsense? Wouldn't surprise me but just checking.
so its worse if a drunken driver kills you then a careless driver?
 
Maybe as dumb as you not including drug-involved fatalities. It's not as simple a data cutout due to testing/reporting irregularities among states (e.g., NC doesn't test at all), drug types tested for, and lack of standardized impairment levels, but in 2021 over 10,000 deaths resulted from drivers who tested positive for a drug that could cause impairment and the national number has been rising for some time.

But if you were to consider those numbers, the 32% of fatalities you quote for 2022 becomes 56% with drugs added in. And this is without mandated standards which are expected to improve.

https://safetrec.berkeley.edu/2023-safetrec-traffic-safety-facts-drug-involved-driving
 
so its worse if a drunken driver kills you then a careless driver?
Yes. Someone can be careless for something that had nothing to do with them like being distracted by others in the vehicle. And it's an in the moment occurrence. A drunk or impaired driver had way more time to make a better decision to not even get behind the wheel in the first place, and possibly against the advice of others since their impairment can be observed in some cases.
 
Maybe as dumb as you not including drug-involved fatalities. It's not as simple a data cutout due to testing/reporting irregularities among states (e.g., NC doesn't test at all), drug types tested for, and lack of standardized impairment levels, but in 2021 over 10,000 deaths resulted from drivers who tested positive for a drug that could cause impairment and the national number has been rising for some time.

But if you were to consider those numbers, the 32% of fatalities you quote for 2022 becomes 56% with drugs added in. And this is without mandated standards which are expected to improve.

https://safetrec.berkeley.edu/2023-safetrec-traffic-safety-facts-drug-involved-driving
As usual you try to sneak away from your claim which is that Drunken driving was much higher then it is. And even some of the drugs are also involved with alcohol in the same incidents.
Bottom line is that you were wrong and now you are trying to deny.

and you use BERKLEY rather then the CDC which I used
once again cherry picking
 
Yes. Someone can be careless for something that had nothing to do with them like being distracted by others in the vehicle. And it's an in the moment occurrence. A drunk or impaired driver had way more time to make a better decision to not even get behind the wheel in the first place, and possibly against the advice of others since their impairment can be observed in some cases.
So stupidity as regards drinking is different then stupidity as regards driving.
OK.
 
Some states have levels. This oui means they wanted to bust him for something....but dui didn't qualify.

Meanwhile...."fans" claim he was "hammered"....with zero evidence.

I hate people.
True. State laws vary and I have no clue about that states laws. Some states can get a warrant for a blood test, others don’t. Some have varying degrees of impaired . In a few days we will know.
 
Maybe he smoked a joint after the round of golf.

He has back problems. He could be using Marijuana for pain. If he smelled of weed and had bloodshot eyes. That would get him the OWI.

There’s quite a few possibilities of what it could be.
Interesting take…

I doubt he was smoking. The cops would have cited him for it. It’s illegal in Wisconsin.

It’s possible he had an RX for Marinol.
 
As usual you try to sneak away from your claim which is that Drunken driving was much higher then it is. And even some of the drugs are also involved with alcohol in the same incidents.
Bottom line is that you were wrong and now you are trying to deny.

and you use BERKLEY rather then the CDC which I used
once again cherry picking
Here's my foray into this topic when I started:
Perfectly sober drivers kill someone every day in this country too.
Well, when you put it that way let's all impair ourselves and drive. Same difference, right?
Steve responded to THIS and said it was 50-50. And then I did mention "drinking and driving" as it's the most common form of impairment (at least partially because it's the most widely tested for and standardized).

And can you not read a table? The link I gave you showed California AND national stats as reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration through its Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) where law enforcement and investigators sends data to keep stats on traffic deaths statewide and nationwide. In fact, THIS IS THE SAME DATA SET USED TO QUOTE THE CDC STATS YOU PRESENTED HERE if you had bothered to follow the links to the source data.

What was that you said about stupid again? You are a walking Freudian projection machine, bro.
This is the part where you slink away and hope no one notices.
 
Here's my foray into this topic when I started:


Steve responded to THIS and said it was 50-50. And then I did mention "drinking and driving" as it's the most common form of impairment (at least partially because it's the most widely tested for and standardized).

And can you not read a table? The link I gave you showed California AND national stats as reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration through its Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) where law enforcement and investigators sends data to keep stats on traffic deaths statewide and nationwide. In fact, THIS IS THE SAME DATA SET USED TO QUOTE THE CDC STATS YOU PRESENTED HERE if you had bothered to follow the links to the source data.

What was that you said about stupid again? You are a walking Freudian projection machine, bro.
This is the part where you slink away and hope no one notices.
You got arrogant and careless and now are whining about it
typical

Unless you believe Steve and say it's 50-50. Are you also signing on to that nonsense? Wouldn't surprise me but just checking.

Those are your words
now do you want them with Ketchup and Salt?
 
A lot of hypocrisy in this thread. Any one of you tip back 2-3 beers on a Sunday afternoon while watching football and forgot hamburger buns at the store, are driving to the store to pick them up.
SpaceMan...never would be me my friend. I dont eat hamburgers.
 

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