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DFWJC

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so nothing huh?
dont have the courage to put up an objective number on the number of playoff wins this team will have next year... just "SB contender" so you can back track again

thought so

I know this is not for me, but Denver had zero playoff wins last year and they were a real SB contender.
You never know how many playoff wins you will have, but that doesn't mean your team is not legit.
A bad break in a game, an in-game injury, or just a terrible matchup could end the season to a very good team.

Dallas would have to massively upgrade the defense to be in any of those conversations, IMO.
 

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I like it, the only thing I would change is that we do all this without Garrett and with Gruden as a HC, we do that we are SB contenders, we don't we should expect another mediocre 8-8 season under the worst HC in the league.

Gruden wouldn't be my first choice but he is definitely better than ginger
 

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Getting back to the point, I have 3 scenarios as to what I see...Scenario #1 is unlikely (putting it mildly), Scenario 2 has a possibility and is what I think NEEDS to happen, Scenario 3 is how I see it actually going:

In Each scenario, I see the following player movement:

Offense:
1) Bernadeau has earned his way on to the team on a semi-permanent basis. sign him to a reasonable 2 or 3 year deal to back up all interior line positions - make no mistakes here, he shouldn't be the starter unless injuries bring him into the game
2) For the love of God, commit one way or the other to the two TE set. IMO, I like the idea of doing this and Witten/Escobar should both be on the field together a lot; but, if the coaches can't do anything with it, then scrap the idea and potentially cut hanna in the process
3) Miles Austin - tough decisions need to be made and this isn't one of them; his brittle hammies seem to infect the entire team; cut bait with this guy unless he takes a DRASTIC pay cut to stay. At best, he should not be relied upon to be the #1 or #2 WR and thus, time for him to go
4) Try to bring Waters back for one more season; the guy is up there in age but proved that he belonged in the league; I want him more for his tutelage of the rest of the line; they seemed to learn a lot from him and the unit improved while he was in there and continued to improve after he was gone
5) DRAFT - select an interior OL in the first 3 picks; if a QB is there after the first round that is a potential starter in the league (i.e.: Bortles, McCarron, Mettenberg, Murray), then pull the trigger if they are there in the 3rd or later...I think our pick in the 2nd will be too high for a QB

Defense:
1) Time to part ways with Mr Ware - this is the definition of tough decision; a HOF/ROH player and if he is willing to take a Free-esque pay cut, then I would welcome him back - not at his current projections; I see him being cut after June 1st
2) DL - Hatcher, loved what he did for the team this year but I think he has priced himself out of the DC roster; Spencer, wouldn't mind seeing him back but not in a bidding war; if he doesn't get what he likes in FA, then sign him to a 1 year deal to "earn" his next payday; he owes us one...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, then our FO sucks; Selvie and Hayden stay and we welcome back Crawford and Bass; the rest of the guys on the line should be fighting in TC just to make the team or they go back to bagging groceries...next year's DL needs to have a rotation that applies pressure without using blitzes as much as possible
3) Upgrade the DL with smart FA picks of YOUNG players - not sure who is available right now, but we don't need superstars, we need guys that when it is their turn, they produce
4) Continue to develop LBs and DB's; I think if healthy, we may have the right group there now; the problem is they can't stay healthy; guys like Sims would be gone in favor of keeping the younger guys like Holloman on the roster
5) Draft - first pick NEEDS to be DL, preferably a pass rusher if Ware is gone. I would like to see another DL in the first 3 picks depending on who is there (see offense draft as well - if we get a QB for example, then 4th rounder should be DL);

Scenario #1: JJ steps back, hires someone to be a legit football GM; I would love someone like Roger Staubach with his football background, familiarity to the team and business sense. Allow Roger to make the decision to keep or jettison any of the coaches, including Garrett. If he dumps Garrett and hires a new guy, give that coach some say in the players that he wants.

Scenario #2: JJ gets a new Head Coach, this time, he gets someone with experience as a head coach at some level; NFL experience as a HC trumps good college coaches (like Shaw, O'Brien, etc.); Let the HC decide whether to keep the OC and DC and if changes to either or both, then get on the stick immediately to put the plan together; this needs to happen, minimally, a month prior to the draft

Scenario #3: Garrett stays as head coach; someone is the fall guy for a 3rd straight average season (average only in record, not expectations - we are way below average there); Callahan is removed from play-caller and either Garrett takes that back over or they actually hire someone with an offensive mind-set to run the offense. Callahan stays on as OL coach, where he should be. I believe that Kiffin stays as well. He could not adjust on the fly and that alone should get him canned, but the enormous number of injuries to the DL is what caused this historic failure of the defense. No pressure on any NFL QB means that they can just sit there and survey the field. Must get healthy and instill pressure much like they instilled turnovers.

the bottom line for me is that changes MUST occur for this team to move to something better than fence-riders once again. Regardless of FO/coaching changes, the player moves must happen if they want to think of the future. The draft should be focused early on the lines with heavier focus on DL. As mentioned, if the right QB fell into our pick in the middle of the 3rd round, then pony up and take him, otherwise, stay the course of building the defense, with a hint of interior OL.

Bring Waters back, cut Ware? If we aren't in all out rebuild mode then I'm totally against cutting Ware.
 

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There is not a sliver of a chance Callahan is here next season. None. There will be a fall guy for the offense.
 

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The rodents left this site when they couldn't defend their positions and longer. They have there Own place now where they can play in fantasy land.

A place where Jerry granted every coach the same degree of authority from Jimmy down to Dave.
A place where insiders know everything like: "Jerry will never fire Wade during the season."
A place where the Cowboys are effective cap managers
A place where perpetual restructurings of aging players is inconsequential because,, future cap hits and mountains of dead money are like "interest free loans."
And finally, A place were Jason can be considered competent again
 

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My point is that teams that sneak in and play average usually don't win the SB. Further, Records don't necessarily reflect good or bad teams, by the end of the year. The Ravens sucked in the beginning of the year and had a bad streak where they couldn't contain the run. They fired their OC, got Suggs back and were playing well. The Giants weren't healthy through the year, but they were when the playoffs came around. These teams also showed throughout the year they could beat winning teams, despite their record. Our record on the other hand versus winning teams has consistently been horrendous. Our play normally gets bad December time, which is why we lose when the playoffs are on the line, I.e.. To us they are playoff games.

The only good teams Baltimore beat last year were NE and Cincy, and those were in the first three games of the year. They barely beat KC, and got thumped by Hou and Den, the latter coming in week 15, which led to their OC being replaced They then beat up the Giants, who weren't any good, and finished the season losing to Cincy. That's not a team that was trending up at all. But they pulled it together against a surprising Colts team, and then caught one of the biggest breaks in playoff history when the S for Den forgot how to play S. In 2011, the only playoff team NYG beat was NE in the middle of the year. They lost 4 straight in Nov/early Dec, including getting thumped by NO. They beat us in a SNF game where we had another great defensive meltdown, but then turned right around and laid an egg against Wash. They finished the regular season by beating us and NYJ, two non-playoff games. Again, nothing really to suggest they were about to do anything in the playoffs, but then beat GB, who were 15-1. 2010 - GB wins on the last week at home, by a TD, over a CHI team that had nothing to play for, in what essentially was a playoff game for GB. They were up and down all year, including losing a December game to Detroit, 7-3. They won their last two games, but one was over NYG, which was another non-playoff team. They came in as a 5th seed, and weren't favored by anyone. They got hot, and won the whole thing.

Point is, none of those were really playing great football coming in, and there were multiple teams in the playoffs that came in hotter than them. But they all found something (GB and NYG both found running games; Flacco turned into Brady), got a good share of breaks, avoided mistakes, and won. Things all three teams had trouble with during the regular season. That's basically the theme anymore...get into the playoffs somehow, whether you're playing good football or not, and get hot for 3-4 games.
 

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A place where Jerry granted every coach the same degree of authority from Jimmy down to Dave.
A place where insiders know everything like: "Jerry will never fire Wade during the season."
A place where the Cowboys are effective cap managers
A place where perpetual restructurings of aging players is inconsequential because,, future cap hits and mountains of dead money are like "interest free loans."
And finally, A place were Jason can be considered competent again

Sorry, Jason is not just considered competent there , he is the prodigal son, the messiah, the savior

One luminary who is now there has suggested that the cowboys should sign Garrett for 10 years , 10 years... I kid you not
And he is the one who "schools others with football knowledge"
 

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A place where Jerry granted every coach the same degree of authority from Jimmy down to Dave.
A place where insiders know everything like: "Jerry will never fire Wade during the season."
A place where the Cowboys are effective cap managers
A place where perpetual restructurings of aging players is inconsequential because,, future cap hits and mountains of dead money are like "interest free loans."
And finally, A place were Jason can be considered competent again

As opposed to a place - Where firing the coach is the answer to every question, and we should have run when we passed and should have passed when we ran and when the play works it was the players and when it doesn't work it is the coaches....etc etc vomit
 

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The only good teams Baltimore beat last year were NE and Cincy, and those were in the first three games of the year. They barely beat KC, and got thumped by Hou and Den, the latter coming in week 15, which led to their OC being replaced They then beat up the Giants, who weren't any good, and finished the season losing to Cincy. That's not a team that was trending up at all. But they pulled it together against a surprising Colts team, and then caught one of the biggest breaks in playoff history when the S for Den forgot how to play S. In 2011, the only playoff team NYG beat was NE in the middle of the year. They lost 4 straight in Nov/early Dec, including getting thumped by NO. They beat us in a SNF game where we had another great defensive meltdown, but then turned right around and laid an egg against Wash. They finished the regular season by beating us and NYJ, two non-playoff games. Again, nothing really to suggest they were about to do anything in the playoffs, but then beat GB, who were 15-1. 2010 - GB wins on the last week at home, by a TD, over a CHI team that had nothing to play for, in what essentially was a playoff game for GB. They were up and down all year, including losing a December game to Detroit, 7-3. They won their last two games, but one was over NYG, which was another non-playoff team. They came in as a 5th seed, and weren't favored by anyone. They got hot, and won the whole thing.

Point is, none of those were really playing great football coming in, and there were multiple teams in the playoffs that came in hotter than them. But they all found something (GB and NYG both found running games; Flacco turned into Brady), got a good share of breaks, avoided mistakes, and won. Things all three teams had trouble with during the regular season. That's basically the theme anymore...get into the playoffs somehow, whether you're playing good football or not, and get hot for 3-4 games.

I'll give you Baltimore, but none of that addresses the fact that they changed their OC and got Suggs back for the playoffs and were healthy, besides the fact Flacco played incredible football. The Giants went 3-1 and again were healthy going into the playoffs.

And none of that changes the fact that our record in the Garrett era against winning teams is utterly horrendous. None of that changes the fact that our QB is not healthy and when we have gone into do or die games in the Garrett, we don't show up. We are not healthy, we have not fired our OC, and our best player has a back issue.

Sorry, but comparing the state of the Cowboys to this team doesn't work. The Cowboys resemble the many a pathetic team that hobbled into the playoffs and got blown out.
 

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Show me a back track I have had smart ***...here is an idea, don't open my threads or read my posts...save us both time.

But here it is...we follow my plan and stay healthy we WIN THE SUPER BOWL NEXT YEAR.

And when we do it with Garrett you and the rest of your ilk finally shut the **** up and go away.
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Such bs. Talk. You have nothing to back your assertions. There are a lot of people here like myself that have watched since the 70s and who look at the team objectively. Your pathetic tough guy talk just screams "look at me I'm a homer and everyone else is a hater." Learn how to look at the big picture, talk football and learn what expecting excellence is. If you can't lay out reasons after 17 mediocre years than you have no standing.

You said you lived through a drought from 77-92. You mean going to SBs and NFC Championship games? They had an NFL record 20 winning seasons from 65-86. You are clueless. You profess to know something yet you don't know any history and yet still think .500 over 17 years is cool and a "right direction" while teams at the bottom get new coaches and make the playoffs. Clueless
 
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Such bs. Talk. You have nothing to back your assertions. There are a lot of people here like myself that have watched since the 70s and who look at the team objectively. Your pathetic tough guy talk just screams "look at me I'm a homer and everyone else is a hater." Learn how to look at the big picture, talk football and learn what expecting excellence is. If you can't lay out reasons after 17 mediocre years than you have no standing.

You said you lived through a drought from 77-92. You mean going to SBs and NFC Championship games? They had an NFL record 20 winning seasons from 65-86. You are clueless. You profess to know something yet you don't know any history and yet still think .500 over 17 years is cool and a "right direction" while teams at the bottom get new coaches and make the playoffs. Clueless

I know a hell of a lot more about Cowboys football than you ever will.

As I stated earlier when did we win a super bowl from 77 to 92? The final Landry years ring a bell?

Clueless indeed.
 

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As opposed to a place - Where firing the coach is the answer to every question, and we should have run when we passed and should have passed when we ran and when the play works it was the players and when it doesn't work it is the coaches....etc etc vomit

Oh, you are talking about the coaching in the Green Bay game here. I agree, vomit. Or was it the all the historical "Jason doesn't need to have a winning record this season to survive" 2011, 2012, 2013 threads?
 

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I'll give you Baltimore, but none of that addresses the fact that they changed their OC and got Suggs back for the playoffs and were healthy, besides the fact Flacco played incredible football. The Giants went 3-1 and again were healthy going into the playoffs.

And none of that changes the fact that our record in the Garrett era against winning teams is utterly horrendous. None of that changes the fact that our QB is not healthy and when we have gone into do or die games in the Garrett, we don't show up. We are not healthy, we have not fired our OC, and our best player has a back issue.

Sorry, but comparing the state of the Cowboys to this team doesn't work. The Cowboys resemble the many a pathetic team that hobbled into the playoffs and got blown out.

Ok. Fair enough.
 

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I know a hell of a lot more about Cowboys football than you ever will.

As I stated earlier when did we win a super bowl from 77 to 92? The final Landry years
know a hell of a lot more about Cowboys football than you ever will.

As I stated earlier when did we win a super bowl from 77 to 92? The final Landry years ring a bell?

Clueless indeed.

Do you realize how dense you sound. 1) if you're throwing out a phrase about knowing more football than someone than your desperate and have zero knowledge. I know every starter on almost every team since 1975. If you do you don't actin like it. 2) the Cowboys were in a SB a year after 77...one of the best ever despite losing. They went to three straight NFC Championships after that in the 80s. The drought was late 80s and that was about it so you are just wrong 3) you are now supporting a group that has one playoff win in 17 years...something only 3 other teams have done. So the fact that you support that makes you ignorant about football and coaching considering how quick teams turn it around. Please stop
 

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I repeat DID THEY WIN A SUPER BOWL FROM 77 TO 92?

All we hear is excellence, champions or bust get it now or do we need the short bus to take you to remedial reading class?
 

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I repeat DID THEY WIN A SUPER BOWL FROM 77 TO 92?

All we hear is excellence, champions or bust get it now or do we need the short bus to take you to remedial reading class?

Again, throwing out names and "I know more" is equivalent of " if you don't agree with me you don't know football. It's a clown mentality. Excellence is reaching championship levels and expecting it. They did it back then when they hit 20 straight winning seasons. Is it disappointing to be short? Yes. But back then the expectations never changed. The last decade or more it's been .500 and hopefully playoffs to make a Giants run. You support that. Stop acting like you don't when you support Garrett and him making the same mistakes year after year
 

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Again, throwing out names and "I know more" is equivalent of " if you don't agree with me you don't know football. It's a clown mentality. Excellence is reaching championship levels and expecting it. They did it back then when they hit 20 straight winning seasons. Is it disappointing to be short? Yes. But back then the expectations never changed. The last decade or more it's been .500 and hopefully playoffs to make a Giants run. You support that. Stop acting like you don't when you support Garrett and him making the same mistakes year after year

Good thing this site did not exist in the early 60's...the Landry witch hunt would be in full force.
 

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So the final Landry years were better than the current years?

Buried? Not.

You're moving the goal posts again and avoiding my point but I'll play along. So instead of drought years from 77 to 92, now you go to the "final Landry years." Probably not many people are going to argue that the team had to go in a different direction at the time Landry was fired. But no one gave him the benefit of the doubt like we do Garrett. No one used an aging roster as an excuse or gave him much of chance to replace that roster. Matter of fact, we made the playoffs in 1985 and when we failed to make the playoffs for 3 straight years, Landry was fired. Only here do we excuse Garrett for something we fired a legend for. And this was done two years after our streak of 20 consecutive winning seasons ended.

Keep digging........
 

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You're moving the goal posts again and avoiding my point but I'll play along. So instead of drought years from 77 to 92, now you go to the "final Landry years." Probably not many people are going to argue that the team had to go in a different direction at the time Landry was fired. But no one gave him the benefit of the doubt like we do Garrett. No one used an aging roster as an excuse or gave him much of chance to replace that roster. Matter of fact, we made the playoffs in 1985 and when we failed to make the playoffs for 3 straight years, Landry was fired. Only here do we excuse Garrett for something we fired a legend for. And this was done two years after our streak of 20 consecutive winning seasons ended.

Keep digging........

And if you want to play that way Landry would not have had that 20 year streak based on your standards you'd have fired him in 64.
 
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