Unrealistic Cowboys fans blame Romo

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I stopped reading when you started assigning a point value to blame. I'm not trying to weigh blame here; I'm simply saying you cannot place complete blame on Romo for losses.

Nobody is placing complete blame on Romo. All people are saying is he is not blameless. He certainly plays a role in our team being mediocre. He chokes right along with the rest of the team.
 

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I agree with this up to a point. Romo missed a wide open Miles Austin in the Giants game. Now, Austin didn't 'see' the ball and definitely didn't come back for it. And the defense surrendered points and let the Giants back in it.

We could go on and on. Let's just say there have been times when Romo could have done better and plenty of times the team could have.

Fair enough
 

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Nobody is placing complete blame on Romo. All people are saying is he is not blameless. He certainly plays a role in our team being mediocre. He chokes right along with the rest of the team.

And that's what people don't understand.
 

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Bwahahahaha yea, our d stopped Stafford cold on that last drive, just one example

Yeah but they did resort to trick plays to win. Also the scheme the D had was pitiful, I'm sorry. I don't blame Romo for that game but I thought he could have done more and involve Dez in the game a little more.
 

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Nobody is placing complete blame on Romo. All people are saying is he is not blameless. He certainly plays a role in our team being mediocre. He chokes right along with the rest of the team.

I suppose that is a fair argument...he certainly owns his share of the blame. The problem is there are not too many QB's out there that give the Cowboys a better chance to win..and you certainly cannot expect a rookie to come in and improve on what we have in Romo. It's quite the quandry. I for one wouldn't be all that disappointed if the Cowboys decided to move on and start developing a new QB...I'd accept the growing pains inherent with that move...horrible cap implications aside. But, as I said before, and the OP mentioned, it's ridiculous to put the blame on Romo for not winning a Championship, when the Cowboys have had so many other issues that I would rate well above Romo's negative impact.
 

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When Dallas went 13-3 and lost in the divisional game vs the Giants at home, it was Jerry who lost that game with the choices he made to get that 13-3 team? When they lost to the Vikings in the divsional round after totally dominating the eagles the week before it was Jerry who lost that game too? This team has been given chances to win in the playoffs. Sooner or later people are going to have to stop blaming Jerry.

Take a look at both of those games. Romo was smothered by both defenses. He had about 1.5 secs to make a play and there were 2-3 defenders in his face. The offensive line could not handle the Giants who went on to win it all or the Vikings. From what I remember Romo was sacked 5+ times in each.

Major offensive line failure in both games.
 

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So why is it guaranteed that we will have more crap QBs after Romo is gone? Isn't that an indictment of Jerry? Maybe, just maybe the next guy is better than Romo, and maybe he won't be, but Romo will retire one day in the not too distant future anyway so the fear of the unknown theme will have to be dealt with anyway (not that I'm saying cut Romo now). If Jerry is a lousy GM then yeah it will be more Hutch and Q Car types. If he does his job then there is no reason why we can't get a good QB after Romo is gone.[/quot


So why is it guaranteed that we will have more crap QBs after Romo is gone? Isn't that an indictment of Jerry? Maybe, just maybe the next guy is better than Romo, and maybe he won't be, but Romo will retire one day in the not too distant future anyway so the fear of the unknown theme will have to be dealt with anyway (not that I'm saying cut Romo now). If Jerry is a lousy GM then yeah it will be more Hutch and Q Car types. If he does his job then there is no reason why we can't get a good QB after Romo is gone.

Time will tell. But as I pointed out previously, year in and year out, teams draft QBs and fail. Usually the GM is fired, but that ain't happening here.
 

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I'd be curious to hear where you thought Tony's game ending interception rate ranked relative to other QBs.

I'm not surprised, but I can't understand why this topic is even debated heavily in a thread. I can't comprehend watching our team and thinking the problem is *anything* other than the defense.

Don't hold your breath waiting on Section000 to come up with an answer. It's embarrassing that our own fans buy into the national media nonsense. They're supposed to be watching the games.
In their own twisted minds, Romo haters believe that Romo leads the league every year in "game ending" interceptions. In reality, Tom Brady ended 3-4 games with interceptions last year and had another game he "won" where he came up empty on three game winning drives before the Broncos finally muffed a punt.
 

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Oh really he has? I don't remember Peyton or Brady or even Rodgers or even Brees constantly throwing late game ints. It happens, but not very often.

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Off-subject: Recently, a claim was made that I compared Romo with Elway.
No comparison was made.
However, this post is an example of a comparison of interceptions by QBs listed above only.​
 

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I don't usually do this as I find myself defending Romo more often than not in the real world, but for those pointing out Tom Brady's end of game INTS last year, just a few things to bear in mind:

1. In the Bengals game, he had Aaron Dobson wide open and the ball hit him directly in the hands and he dropped it, which would have sealed the game.
2. The 'end of game INT' in the Panthers game occurred on the very last play of the game with no time left/no time outs.

I guess what I'm stating is that if you absolve Romo from blame in several losses with similar results as the above i.e. the 2007 Giants playoff game/2011 Giants game, then you'd have to do the same thing for Tom Brady as similar situations happened to him in his blunders.

My memory is a little foggy on the Patriots loss to Miami that ended in an INT, but I do believe it was a 'hailmary' type of situation where Brady threw a prayer. Bear in mind, Romo very rarely, if ever, throws a hailmary attempt as the last play and generally checks down as we proceed to attempt to play hot potato with laterals.

For the record, my personally opinion is that Romo was not at fault for either of those games since again, it was the last play of the game and in the second game, he led us down the field with zero timeouts in 48 seconds to kick the game winner (which we actually made but Tom Coughlin called a timeout, and the next attempt was blocked by JPP).

Again, sometimes stats don't tell the whole story as many of the other QB's attempt "hailmary" types of plays that end in INT's, which will make their 4th quarter INT rate look worse, where Romo doesn't do this too often. This is why I'm not the biggest fan of always relying on stats, although Romo's stats of 31-10 can't really be argued with too much IMO.
 

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If I'd been in a coma since 2007 and woke up today to read this thread, it's like I never missed a beat.
 

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I don't usually do this as I find myself defending Romo more often than not in the real world, but for those pointing out Tom Brady's end of game INTS last year, just a few things to bear in mind:

1. In the Bengals game, he had Aaron Dobson wide open and the ball hit him directly in the hands and he dropped it, which would have sealed the game.
2. The 'end of game INT' in the Panthers game occurred on the very last play of the game with no time left/no time outs.

I guess what I'm stating is that if you absolve Romo from blame in several losses with similar results as the above i.e. the 2007 Giants playoff game/2011 Giants game, then you'd have to do the same thing for Tom Brady as similar situations happened to him in his blunders.

My memory is a little foggy on the Patriots loss to Miami that ended in an INT, but I do believe it was a 'hailmary' type of situation where Brady threw a prayer. Bear in mind, Romo very rarely, if ever, throws a hailmary attempt as the last play and generally checks down as we proceed to attempt to play hot potato with laterals.

For the record, my personally opinion is that Romo was not at fault for either of those games since again, it was the last play of the game and in the second game, he led us down the field with zero timeouts in 48 seconds to kick the game winner (which we actually made but Tom Coughlin called a timeout, and the next attempt was blocked by JPP).

Again, sometimes stats don't tell the whole story as many of the other QB's attempt "hailmary" types of plays that end in INT's, which will make their 4th quarter INT rate look worse, where Romo doesn't do this too often. This is why I'm not the biggest fan of always relying on stats, although Romo's stats of 31-10 can't really be argued with too much IMO.

In the Saints game he had one that should of ended the game. But Sean Payton had terrible game management and gave the ball back to Brady. But it was a horrible pick nevertheless.
 

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I stopped reading when you started assigning a point value to blame. I'm not trying to weigh blame here; I'm simply saying you cannot place complete blame on Romo for losses, unless games consisted of 1 play where Romo threw an interception and said interception was returned for a Touchdown...then and only then, could you blame the loss on Romo. But as it turns out, there are more than just that 1 play in games, and typically there are other guys who made mistakes throughout the game that put us in a position to lose. Obviously, Romo throwing an interception at the end didn't help our cause any, but to throw out everyone else's mistake because of the last mistake that Romo was responsible for is a bit misguided.

The scoring or points were what I took from your comment about the second nthe defense gives up points. Which is why I said you made a conclusion you might not have meant to.
 

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Off-subject: Recently, a claim was made that I compared Romo with Elway.
No comparison was made.
However, this post is an example of a comparison of interceptions by QBs listed above only.​

Awesome....so show me a stat where those Int's prevented any of those QB's from making the playoffs, and how many prevented them from winning Rings, those other 3 guys do have rings right? Or am I going crazy?

Oh ok
 

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Awesome....so show me a stat where those Int's prevented any of those QB's from making the playoffs, and how many prevented them from winning Rings, those other 3 guys do have rings right? Or am I going crazy?

Oh ok

No, you're back-pedaling and twisting the subject around because the statement you made doesn't hold water. It's okay to be wrong.
 

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Awesome....so show me a stat where those Int's prevented any of those QB's from making the playoffs, and how many prevented them from winning Rings, those other 3 guys do have rings right? Or am I going crazy?

Oh ok
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Take a look at both of those games. Romo was smothered by both defenses. He had about 1.5 secs to make a play and there were 2-3 defenders in his face. The offensive line could not handle the Giants who went on to win it all or the Vikings. From what I remember Romo was sacked 5+ times in each.

Major offensive line failure in both games.

LOL ok clearly you didnt watch the Giants game. Romo was sacked once. Manning threw for 163 yrds. That game was what all NFC east games usually are. Ugly and a fight.
 
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