Twitter: Werder says if Dez is tagged, he will skip Offseason Activities.

[Rockport]

Because he wants what he believes he deserves? Why should be punished because Jones made bad decisions with past contracts?

If they feel that strongly about giving out contracts, simple, let him walk.

Nah you don't wanna do that though. To scared of what the future might hold without him.

Has nothing to do with past contracts. Zilch.

 

[Doomsday]

If he wont sign a reasonable deal, around $12 million per, I would franchise him the next 2 years and go from there. It is stupid to break the bank for a WR.

 

[Frozen700]

what does that matter according to you Romo is just a body back there. Hell for 16 mill Dallas could get a couple of good WR at that price to help take over the load. I want Dez but not at all cost I'm not going to act as if whatever he demands he should get. Cowboys have never been a team who under pays players and I don't think they are trying to underpay Dez I'm more inclined to think Dez agent is asking for too much

Ok.

I can chalk this up to being the middle ground here. Can't argue back with this, as I agree to a degree.

 

[Frozen700]

Has nothing to do with past contracts. Zilch.

I could have sworn Stephen Jones Made comments in the past like "After some of the past contracts, we are trying to be smarter" ect ect. Something along those lines.

Unless you know him personally, I can only take what he said, and add it into the equation.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Yeah I know right. Go ahead continue to slap your forehead

This team went
9-7 in 2006
13-3 in 2007
9-7 in 2008
1-5 in 2009
Without DEZ. Before you say "our defense was much better", well that is exactly why I am not an advocate of paying him whatever he wants. It will hinder our ability to improve the defense.

This fallacy you are using that everything on this team starts and ends with Dez Bryant is wrong. We have won games without Dez. Our oline and qb are a lot more valuable to this team.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ok.

I can chalk this up to being the middle ground here. Can't argue back with this, as I agree to a degree.

I want Dez back but it is a give and take it is not a one way deal where whatever Dez wants he gets. I fully expect a deal to be worked out even if they are forced to place a FT on Dez I think Jones will continue discussion to get a longer deal done and would have until Mid July to work a deal out at which point they can remove the tag. Personally I think getting a long term deal helps the Cowboys as well since the 1st couple of years will likely be very cap friendly and allow the Cowboys more room to maneuver as they look to sign others on the team and in FA.

Truth of the matter is we do not know exactly what the Cowboys are offering nor do we know what Dez demands are. I do not intend to allow this process to cloud my views of Dez just as it did not cloud my views with Emmitt when his contract got ugly. It is part of the business and once it is done all that talk will be a distant memory.

 

[Rockport]

I could have sworn Stephen Jones Made comments in the past like "After some of the past contracts, we are trying to be smarter" ect ect. Something along those lines.

Unless you know him personally, I can only take what he said, and add it into the equation.

Dez is great on the field most of the time. However on the sidelines and off the field he's shown character issues. My point is that this is just another example of that.

 

[Frozen700]

I want Dez back but it is a give and take it is not a one way deal where whatever Dez wants he gets. I fully expect a deal to be worked out even if they are forced to place a FT on Dez I think Jones will continue discussion to get a longer deal done and would have until Mid July to work a deal out at which point they can remove the tag. Personally I think getting a long term deal helps the Cowboys as well since the 1st couple of years will likely be very cap friendly and allow the Cowboys more room to maneuver as they look to sign others on the team and in FA.

Truth of the matter is we do not know exactly what the Cowboys are offering nor do we know what Dez demands are. I do not intend to allow this process to cloud my views of Dez just as it did not cloud my views with Emmitt when his contract got ugly. It is part of the business and once it is done all that talk will be a distant memory.

I agree brother.

Always great going at it, with you.

 

[Frozen700]

Dez is great on the field most of the time. However on the sidelines and off the field he's shown character issues. My point is that this is just another example of that.

I don't know if I would really say it has anything to do with his sideline behavior, or off the field issues, then again, you never really know.

 

[Idgit]

Really. How in the world does he keep his job then?

I know I'd take his word over anyone here who claims they are "sourced up".

And Risen is right. The way you guys pile on to anyone who says anything that might put a Cowboy in a bad light is laughable, beginning with you.

What do you think his job is, exactly? That ought to answer your question for you.

I can't imagine any of us have an issue with whatever basis you prefer to use for believing things. For my part, I prefer actual named sources since they can be verified. Verified to actually exist. Verified to have said what they reportedly said, etc.

And Risen is, of course, dead wrong. I'm not responsible for his fantasies since he's just making stuff up. My criticism of Werder was for not sourcing his sensationalism, and not for saying something the two of you consider to be negative and which I consider it to be hypothetical.

Check my post history, though, if you really think I'm not capable of criticizing the Cowboys. Note that I simply stick to criticizing the things that cause us to lose games and don't lose my composure every time somebody like Ed Werder throws some bait in the water.

 

[tyke1doe]

How am I making decisions for him?

My comment was directed at you. I was actually agreeing with you, but I guess I didn't communicate that properly.

Anyway, it was just a joke. So I don't want anyone to get offended by it.

 

[Idgit]

I want Dez back but it is a give and take it is not a one way deal where whatever Dez wants he gets. I fully expect a deal to be worked out even if they are forced to place a FT on Dez I think Jones will continue discussion to get a longer deal done and would have until Mid July to work a deal out at which point they can remove the tag. Personally I think getting a long term deal helps the Cowboys as well since the 1st couple of years will likely be very cap friendly and allow the Cowboys more room to maneuver as they look to sign others on the team and in FA.

Truth of the matter is we do not know exactly what the Cowboys are offering nor do we know what Dez demands are. I do not intend to allow this process to cloud my views of Dez just as it did not cloud my views with Emmitt when his contract got ugly. It is part of the business and once it is done all that talk will be a distant memory.

I think this is exactly right. The debate will generate a lot of heat and not much light, then a deal will get done, and we'll all forget about it. People spent some fairly significant time debating the Romo extension and it's parameters, too. In retrospect, it's something to talk about but not something that's very likely to impact the play on the field. And the talking about it is what ESPN is cashing in on, so the more of that that happens, the better.

 

[Frozen700]

My comment was directed at you. I was actually agreeing with you, but I guess I didn't communicate that properly.

Anyway, it was just a joke. So I don't want anyone to get offended by it.

Oh ok.

My apologies. I wasn't offended really, was just like huh? lol

 

[Irving Cowboy]

I can't imagine any of us have an issue with whatever basis you prefer to use for believing things. For my part, I prefer actual named sources since they can be verified. Verified to actually exist. Verified to have said what they reportedly said, etc.

Well then how ironic is it that a certain someone here who always claims he is in the know never reveals his sources... most likely because of the same thing you claim about Werder, that he doesn't have any. Funny how you allow that stuff to be posted on here with nary a cross word allowed to be said.

And Risen is, of course, dead wrong. I'm not responsible for his fantasies since he's just making stuff up. My criticism of Werder was for not sourcing his sensationalism, and not for saying something the two of you consider to be negative and which I consider it to be hypothetical.

As a matter of fact he is dead on with his assessment, and he can tell you that he and I disagree on just about everything. Fact is, you consider everything that you don't like as hypothetical or coming from a lousy source and everything that is rosy or coming from the said poster above as being gospel. Like I said, laughable at best. Well at the risk of being all-encompassing I'm sure you've stuck your toe in the murky waters of a few harmless "he was a bad boy" stories but for the most part, you do everything you can to discredit anyone who says anything you don't WANT to believe.

Check my post history, though, if you really think I'm not capable of criticizing the Cowboys. Note that I simply stick to criticizing the things that cause us to lose games and don't lose my composure every time somebody like Ed Werder throws some bait in the water.

Yes, I'm sure you've shared your stories of injuries, bad luck and bad officiating with everyone here. Congratulations.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yeah we ran the ball Well this year because we fixed the O-Line. Not because we just decided to run more.

Yeah we replaced TO with Dez, but it took Dez a few years to be the Dez he is today. Last I checked Romo is not getting any younger.

Romo is done in about 2 years, if he's even lucky, with that back.

This is actually a really good point and I think it lends itself to the question of big long term contracts, especially where Dez is concerned. When Romo is done, Dez will still be here but how effective will the QB position be? Unless we are going to go out and spend big money on a good Vet QB, we are going to have to draft one and develop him. How long will it take to do that and is it better to have cap flexibility or is it better to have a significant amount of Cap tied up?

 

[Nightman]

Because he could have an injury in training camp and lose out on his big pay day?

Serious question, but why should we care if Dez gets a big enough payday if he gets hurt and can't play? That just means the team gets screwed over and has to eat a ton of salary and cap space.

Is 13m really disrespectful if he gets hurt? I think it rings a little hollow if that is his argument. Dallas is supposedly willing to guarantee 20m, which is right in line with other WR contracts, most of which turned out badly.

 

[Doomsday101]

This is actually a really good point and I think it lends itself to the question of big long term contracts, especially where Dez is concerned. When Romo is done, Dez will still be here but how effective will the QB position be? Unless we are going to go out and spend big money on a good Vet QB, we are going to have to draft one and develop him. How long will it take to do that and is it better to have cap flexibility or is it better to have a significant amount of Cap tied up?

I know one thing if I have a young QB that I get from the draft one big way to help him develop quickly is by having a quality OL in front of him, by having quality weapons he can go to. Most of the top drafted QB go to bad teams with poor OL and not much help and these guys struggle. Why did Matt Cassel do well in NE winning 10 games when Brady went down? I would think having a quality group around him was a big help to him.

 

[Frozen700]

This is actually a really good point and I think it lends itself to the question of big long term contracts, especially where Dez is concerned. When Romo is done, Dez will still be here but how effective will the QB position be? Unless we are going to go out and spend big money on a good Vet QB, we are going to have to draft one and develop him. How long will it take to do that and is it better to have cap flexibility or is it better to have a significant amount of Cap tied up?

You can look at it that way.

Then Franchise Dez this year and Next then. Then when Romo leaves start from scratch, knowing he's gone, and the fact you pissed Dez off to the ends of the earth that he will leave for sure. (Not being sarcastic)

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I know one thing if I have a young QB that I get from the draft one big way to help him develop quickly is by having a quality OL in front of him, by having quality weapons he can go to. Most of the top drafted QB go to bad teams with poor OL and not much help and these guys struggle. Why did Matt Cassel do well in NE winning 10 games when Brady went down? I would think having a quality group around him was a big help to him.

It probably would be a better situation then not but honestly, it's going to take a good two to three years before a rookie QB is ready to win IMO. That two or three years of high cap numbers with Dez and reduced returns on investment (not Dez's fault, just the situation with a young QB).

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You can look at it that way.

Then Franchise Dez this year and Next then. Then when Romo leaves start from scratch, knowing he's gone, and the fact you pissed Dez off to the ends of the earth that he will leave for sure. (Not being sarcastic)

At that point, I'd guess that Dez would probably be better off being an FA and moving on to a team who has a good QB. Honestly, it would probably be a better situation for Dez to be in from a purely personal standpoint.