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And again, even if they give up two picks for Peterson, they've not only filled their biggest need, but they still have plenty of picks and options remaining for the future. I don't see it as an either/or proposition.

RB and CB are what the Cowboys are looking for, and they have enough picks to get both taken care of, and a difference maker at RB would be key for a Super Bowl victory this coming year.
 

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I don't see it as 'slim' at all. This team was 12-4 last year and obtaining big upgrades at both pass rush and running game only improves them and increases the chances of winning a championship.
When you narrow it down to a 1 year time frame, it a narrow chance for any team statistically.


Like who? McFadden and his league low average? Or an unproven rookie? I completely disagree with this 'low probability' for a championship while adding improvements to a 12-4 team while somehow there's a 'high probability of having great success' with either a proven disappointment or an NFL unknown.
The probably of other RBs having success behind this OLine is higher than the probability of winning the Super Bowl this year with Peterson on the roster.
 

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The probably of other RBs having success behind this OLine is higher than the probability of winning the Super Bowl this year with Peterson on the roster.

Which Cowboys team is more likely to win a SB........... one with Peterson running behind this line or one with McFadden/Randle/Matthews running behind this line?
 

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And again, even if they give up two picks for Peterson, they've not only filled their biggest need, but they still have plenty of picks and options remaining for the future. I don't see it as an either/or proposition.

Hey Stash, I forgot did we decide if you were going to call Jerry or if I was going to make the call. :huh:
 

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And again, even if they give up two picks for Peterson, they've not only filled their biggest need, but they still have plenty of picks and options remaining for the future. I don't see it as an either/or proposition.

RB is not the biggest need by a long shot. The Giants beat a better Patriots team in the Super Bowl twice because they had a dominating pass rush.

We need more DL, not a RB. I just don't get why people think AP will make such a difference since we already had the best rusher by 500 yards and didn't win.
 

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I don't see it as 'slim' at all. This team was 12-4 last year and obtaining big upgrades at both pass rush and running game only improves them and increases the chances of winning a championship.
When you narrow it down to a 1 year time frame, it a narrow chance for any team statistically.


I didn't narrow it to one hear, you did that. I expect Peterson and Romo to be here for a two to three year window.


Like who? McFadden and his league low average? Or an unproven rookie? I completely disagree with this 'low probability' for a championship while adding improvements to a 12-4 team while somehow there's a 'high probability of having great success' with either a proven disappointment or an NFL unknown.
The probably of other RBs having success behind this OLine is higher than the probability of winning the Super Bowl this year with Peterson on the roster.

According to you, someone also trying to make the case that Peterson, a proven commodity and Hall of Fame caliber player, wouldn't have great success here, but then talk up an unproven rookie behind this line out of the other side of your mouth.

An extremely poor case than anyone could see right through.
 

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Which Cowboys team is more likely to win a SB........... one with Peterson running behind this line or one with McFadden/Randle/Matthews running behind this line?

This answer should be good...

:rolleyes:
 

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RB is not the biggest need by a long shot.

So you're saying you're good with what we've git then? McFadden, Randle, and Williams? Just so we're clear.

The Giants beat a better Patriots team in the Super Bowl twice because they had a dominating pass rush.

Didn't we just sign the best pass rusher available? While losing our 1,800 yard running back?

We need more DL, not a RB. I just don't get why people think AP will make such a difference since we already had the best rusher by 500 yards and didn't win.

Maybe because he's better than what we lost? And again, tell me how we can't get defensive linemen because we get Peterson?
 

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Which Cowboys team is more likely to win a SB........... one with Peterson running behind this line or one with McFadden/Randle/Matthews running behind this line?

If it were as simple as that, the answer would be easy. Its not though, and since can't see that, this is the best answer im willing to give.
 

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I didn't narrow it to one hear, you did that. I expect Peterson and Romo to be here for a two to three year window.




According to you, someone also trying to make the case that Peterson, a proven commodity and Hall of Fame caliber player, wouldn't have great success here, but then talk up an unproven rookie behind this line out of the other side of your mouth.

An extremely poor case than anyone could see right through.

Maybe you missed this post.

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Which Cowboys team is more likely to win a SB........... one with Peterson running behind this line or one with McFadden/Randle/Matthews running behind this line?

The one with Peterson probably. Now, which one is more likely to handicap your team for the future?

The one with Peterson.

If the team with a rookie doesn't won the Super Bowl, you reload. Make a few key pickups and go try again.

If the team with Peterson doesn't win? Now you go into another season with a RB that makes big money and is now 31 years old.

These 'one player away' teams are great, if the player agrees to a one year contract or similar. They are not so great if it's a multi year deal for an aging player. And this one would also take draft picks.
 

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I didn't narrow it to one hear, you did that. I expect Peterson and Romo to be here for a two to three year window.




According to you, someone also trying to make the case that Peterson, a proven commodity and Hall of Fame caliber player, wouldn't have great success here, but then talk up an unproven rookie behind this line out of the other side of your mouth.

An extremely poor case than anyone could see right through.

The Cowboys just need to win a couple of Super Bowls now, before the window breaks. New saying for Cowboys is back to back in 2015 and 2016.
 

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In the past, going all in hasn't worked so well. If it does pay off with a Super Bowl, that would be great, but I don't want one Super Bowl every twenty years. For the first time since Jimmy left, this team is showing signs of being a well run organization with long term plans of sucess. I would much rather see the Cowboys be a legit Super Bowl contender every year like the Pats. I know the standard response is going to be that the team's sucess is over once Romo retires. There is no reason for that statement to be true if the team plans for Romo's departure and have a capable QB to take his place. I am not ready to go all in for one or two years and then throw in the towel when there will still be a lot of talent on the team such as Dez and a young oline that is considered to be the best in the league . That is too much talent to give up on and not be prepared to use those players for long term success. As an older fan, I liked the feeling of having a legit chance to win it all every year. I would rather plan for the long term instead of putting all my eggs in one basket for a two year period. I am sure that some fans will disagree, but that would change with a string of playoff appearances and a couple Super Bowl wins.
 

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Which Cowboys team is more likely to win a SB........... one with Peterson running behind this line or one with McFadden/Randle/Matthews running behind this line?

That's not the full picture.

It is McFadden/Randle/Williams PLUS a 1st round pick PLUS 8M+ per season in cap space to add other players over the next few years.

How many of the past 5 Super Bowl winners won because they went All-In on a player?
 

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It doesn't matter. History shows that. Backs degrade quickly after 30. Might he be different? Maybe. But the odds are very much against it.

I think Peterson has a couple of good years left in him, also he won't have carry the ball all the time, other backs will give him a rest, and he never and I mean never ran behind a line like the Cowboys line.
 

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Peterson is not your normal back.

No, he is s great RB that is nearing the end of a great career. He could give the team two or three years. A RB like Gurley could give his entire career to Dallas. If he is drafted in the first round, Dallas will get a minimum of five years out of him.
 
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