Sturm's Morning After: Cowboys have a coaching mess; Garrett ignores reality of the underdog

texbumthelife

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He did, but he was too soft and he didn't demand enough from his players so he lost the team. I haven't seen that with Garrett.

That's subjective. Just like most the reasons we've listed for not thinking Garrett is a good head coach. Then throw in his abhorrent clock management and infernal clapping fits ;)
 

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One thing to consider in this 5 game losing streak. The opposing coaches have a combined 11 superbowl rings and 2 national championships. There's a reason we've been outcoached. Those guys are really good. Not excusing Garrett, he is who he is. This is more an indictment on the front office who continues to hire less than elite headcoaches after Jimmy with the obvious exception of Bill Parcells. This is the price Jerry has to pay for not sharing the spotlight and not walking on eggshells.
 

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Fans always want the problem to be coaching, because they believe coaching is easy to fix. Just bring in some genius and all of the problems will be solved. It's much more difficult to face the reality that your season hinges on your QB, and they are REALLY hard to find.

If it's always about scheme or philosophy it's easy to fix - just make and adjustment, yell more, go for it on fourth down. But if it's about not having guys who are good enough then you are kind of screwed. Right now, at QB we are not good enough. This is life without a top 5 QB. The team plays its collective *** off and loses anyway.

Right now we're at an extreme deficit at the most important position on the field. No scheme will fix that, no adjustment will cure the problem. But the team keeps competing with the guys we can field, and I haven't seen any hint of them giving up in spite of the fact that our QB is on the sidelines and the guys we have to replace him are, relatively speaking, scrubs.

Nonsense.. Garrett has been here 8 plus years along with his scheme. There has been no change in any coaching philosophy from his perspective. When Callahan was going to do it, Garrett kept injecting himself on the equation. And they finally went ahead with Linehan because of the same offense of Garrett's, per Jerry's own words meaning no change in schemes, just a better play caller.

Everybody has blamed everyone but Garrett. From Romo audibling out of run plays, Dez not knowing routes to the OL not being there to block for the QB. There was always some other blame than Garrett. Two years ago it was allegedly the worst defense in history, and now this defense with Hardy is holding teams to 13 points.

In fact, we had Garrett homers arguing at points that Kyle Orton would be better than Romo at one point and he ended up throwing two crucial INTs against Philly, which was playing basically man coverage and bungling itself in the secondary in that crucial game...

Nothing but absolving Garrett..
 

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The clapping doesn't bother me, I just want to have something to clap about.

For the record in response to one of your earlier posts, no, I don't think coaching is easy to fix. A great coach is about as tough to find as a great QB and in my opinion just as important. That's why I don't think you ever stop looking. Even if you think your HC is great, you should be looking for great, talented minds as coordinators. That's not meant to be indicative of this team, just a broad statement.
 

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LOL. Who is grasping at straws here? You are bringing up two former coaches that most people agree weren't very good coaches. It's a bizarre attempt to try to defend Garrett. Really bizarre.

Yes, to me, being a middle of the pack coach is essentially a poor coach. And I know it's downright crazy, but I think a franchise like the Cowboys should try to get a coach that isn't "middle of the pack".

So let me get this straight. I need to understand your perverse logic here. Because Campo and Wade were truly awful coaches, Garrett is fine as head coach because he's not as bad as those two.

Wade was not awful. He took a Buffalo team to the playoffs and lost via the Music City Miracle. He had an interfering owner that forced him to make decisions via his QBs like Johnson and Flutie.

You could have given Wade a legitimate OC with Romo, this team could have challenged every year.
 

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And there really is nothing that indicates Seattle is the team it was the last two seasons. The team is struggling...
 

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One thing to consider in this 5 game losing streak. The opposing coaches have a combined 11 superbowl rings and 2 national championships. There's a reason we've been outcoached. Those guys are really good. Not excusing Garrett, he is who he is. This is more an indictment on the front office who continues to hire less than elite headcoaches after Jimmy with the obvious exception of Bill Parcells. This is the price Jerry has to pay for not sharing the spotlight and not walking on eggshells.

Good post. I hadn't even thought about that angle.
 

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Nonsense.. Garrett has been here 8 plus years along with his scheme. There has been no change in any coaching philosophy from his perspective. When Callahan was going to do it, Garrett kept injecting himself on the equation. And they finally went ahead with Linehan because of the same offense of Garrett's, per Jerry's own words meaning no change in schemes, just a better play caller.

Everybody has blamed everyone but Garrett. From Romo audibling out of run plays, Dez not knowing routes to the OL not being there to block for the QB. There was always some other blame than Garrett. Two years ago it was allegedly the worst defense in history, and now this defense with Hardy is holding teams to 13 points.

In fact, we had Garrett homers arguing at points that Kyle Orton would be better than Romo at one point and he ended up throwing two crucial INTs against Philly, which was playing basically man coverage and bungling itself in the secondary in that crucial game...

Nothing but absolving Garrett..


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That is a very long response that would require a lot of documentation to make a point.

Who are the coaches that have had great success in all games they've coached with scrub level backup QBs?

No problem, just figured you had done an analysis I missed which made you say he was middle of the pack.
 

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Do people not understand we have wasted the prime years of Romo with this guy, and we still have people trying to defend him? The same people who were telling us Romo was checking out if the run plays that Garrett was calling just two and three years ago?

The fact we have wasted it is now evident to those that were giving Garrett the benefit of the doubt, because Romo isn't here to save the day and hide the else deficiencies of the coaching...

Romo's prime years wasted... This should make people livid..
 

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What I find most hilarious:

Garrett did win with Kitna. But guess what?

Kitna threw more INTs per TDs and the defense produced close to 30 TOs when Jerry went ballistic in less than 11 games against some pretty weak teams.

So even when Jason won with a backup QB, it was because the side he wasn't coaching bailed him out.
 

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One thing to consider in this 5 game losing streak. The opposing coaches have a combined 11 superbowl rings and 2 national championships. There's a reason we've been outcoached. Those guys are really good. Not excusing Garrett, he is who he is. This is more an indictment on the front office who continues to hire less than elite headcoaches after Jimmy with the obvious exception of Bill Parcells. This is the price Jerry has to pay for not sharing the spotlight and not walking on eggshells.

Good points!!! Unfortunately, the fans are the ones who pay the price for Jerry being "comfortable". I have never understand why he would sacrifice success by hiring inferior coaches to make himself look better when it has the opposite affect.
 

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Do people not understand we have wasted the prime years of Romo with this guy, and we still have people trying to defend him? The same people who were telling us Romo was checking out if the run plays that Garrett was calling just two and three years ago?

The fact we have wasted it is now evident to those that were giving Garrett the benefit of the doubt, because Romo isn't here to save the day and hide the else deficiencies of the coaching...

Romo's prime years wasted... This should make people livid..

Agree wholeheartedly, wasting Romo's prime on Garrett is a crying shame.
 

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Ok. Well, support that, or let's just stop the conversation. I can't debate it if you won't support it.

But for argument's sake, I'll say again what I've said at various points throughout the offseason and here during the early part of the season. Not improving the QB2 spot was a bigger mistake then not addressing the RB position. And Garrett and the team have not addressed the ST coverage teams after 8 weeks here, and it's killing us. Both in terms of blocking on punt returns and covering on both kickoffs and punt returns.

Also, throwing the ball agressively downfield with Matt Cassel against the Giants last week was a tactical mistake that probably cost us that football game. I say 'probably' there, because we also gave up the ST score, and that also costs teams football games.

Also, the OL that was supposed to be the strength of the team was not prepared for the start of the season. Some of that was injury, but not all of it.

Support what? What do you want me to support?

What costed this game was JG's typical MO of doing something wrong in one week (having Cassel wing it) then over compesating and doing the total opposite the next week (having Cassel check down).

I guess JG never learned that there can be a middle ground and adjustments can be made in increments.
 
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If they had won 1 and got blown out in 4 then it would be a worse coaching job than keeping it close in 4-1/2 games.

It is unfortunate that they have not faced any teams with backup QBs to get a better comparison of the coaching.

Are you kidding me? There are no style points in the NFL. That one win could mean the difference between plyaing in the playoffs or going fishing after the season.

Go look up how 2007 season turned out for the Giants and the Patriots.
 

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sorry, I disagree with this. specially at that juncture of the game. it was obvious there wasn't going to be a lot of points. it was obvious our defense was going to keep it close. so why give away 3 points, which coul dhave made the difference in the game....at that juncture of the game, you do take the points and not the risk. now, if he wants to complain about 1st and 2nd quarter and not taking shots, then we can have a debate....at that point. we are down 10-9 and a field goal puts us ahead. our defense had played great, it was going to be a close game. in those tight quarters. with those safties and CBs, its hard to say take a chance....

and I bet if we did take a chance. and it would be intercepted, the article would say why take a chance in a close game when one point will be the difference and put yourself in a position to have to score a TD at the end against a great defense.

now, I did have a problem with how they used Dez. Sherman was locked on him all day, except when dez played in the slot...so they should have ran a few more plays with him from the slot. put Beasley out wide and let Sherman's coverage be wasted on him. I know the coaches don't trust escobar... as he has greatly underwhelmed, but put him in for some three TE formations and mix up the TEs in routes (who stays to block, who goes). I actually wanted to see Dez and Williams in the slot, that would have created problems for seattle defense.

but at that juncture of a game. 10-9, your defense playing great....you have to make sure you don't turn the ball over

You guys keep saying this, Sherman followed him to the slot as well.
 

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Wade was not awful. He took a Buffalo team to the playoffs and lost via the Music City Miracle. He had an interfering owner that forced him to make decisions via his QBs like Johnson and Flutie.

You could have given Wade a legitimate OC with Romo, this team could have challenged every year.

Throw down that gauntlet, sir!
 
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