Sturm's Morning After: Cowboys have a coaching mess; Garrett ignores reality of the underdog

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When Weed was the QB everyone demanded that they "bring in" Cassel and lamented on why they didn't "bring in" Cassel sooner.

not because he was good, but because weeden was terrible...
even if you get the same result.... one was unknown, one was not.
 

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When Weed was the QB everyone demanded that they "bring in" Cassel and lamented on why they didn't "bring in" Cassel sooner.

This symptom epitomizes the fact that not one person on this board knows anything about this game. No matter how much all-22 they watch or buzz words they toss out about this game.

Or clever straw man signatures that belie the truth.
 

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No, it's just from observing other HCs. When their team is losing, fans often think all other HCs must be great but in reality most other HCs make a lot of bad decisions and many never get a good grip on their lockerroom. Some are good for a short time but either lose the team or can't get along with the front office.

Even some top HCs have not proven anything without super star QBs.

Most of my observations just come from watching the opposing coaches we play. I don't watch a lot of games in full outside of our games. I must say, we went through a streak of years where backup QBs had our number while during this streak our backup QBs have not won a game. Can you explain to us how that makes JG a middle of the pack coach? Since that is where you placed him I just want to understand your grading system?
 

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Fans always want the problem to be coaching, because they believe coaching is easy to fix. Just bring in some genius and all of the problems will be solved. It's much more difficult to face the reality that your season hinges on your QB, and they are REALLY hard to find.

If it's always about scheme or philosophy it's easy to fix - just make and adjustment, yell more, go for it on fourth down. But if it's about not having guys who are good enough then you are kind of screwed. Right now, at QB we are not good enough. This is life without a top 5 QB. The team plays its collective *** off and loses anyway.

Right now we're at an extreme deficit at the most important position on the field. No scheme will fix that, no adjustment will cure the problem. But the team keeps competing with the guys we can field, and I haven't seen any hint of them giving up in spite of the fact that our QB is on the sidelines and the guys we have to replace him are, relatively speaking, scrubs.

To the contrary, if our problems are coaching, then we are in real trouble because Garrett is not going anywhere.

But if our problems are simply the bad backup qbs, then that is easily fixed and we can just shrug our shoulders and say it was all bad luck.

That, in my amateur opinion, is the real psychology at work here (since we are playing amateur psychologists). There are those who cannot criticize JG because the thought that we might have to get another coach with this ownership is unbearable. I don't necessarily disagree with that sentiment.
 

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It is an example and has nothing to do with being a detective. Maybe the example is just too complicated for you to understand.

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The offense was definitely the hero last year.

I like Marinelli as a coach. I think he is great with the players and he's a great motivator. I just question whether or not the game may have passed him by just a little. That said, I am happier with him than I am with Garrett.

I don't have an issue with Marinelli either although he does some things that frustrate me............. my bigger issue is with the offensive coaching staff, including Garrett.
 

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You guys keep saying this, Sherman followed him to the slot as well.

Not sure about that. For example, go look at the quick pass to Bryant that resulted in a loss. He was in the slot and Sherman was outside on Williams. In fact, Williams missed the block and Sherman was the one who made the tackle on Bryant, if I recall correctly.
 

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No, it's just from observing other HCs. When their team is losing, fans often think all other HCs must be great but in reality most other HCs make a lot of bad decisions and many never get a good grip on their lockerroom. Some are good for a short time but either lose the team or can't get along with the front office.

Even some top HCs have not proven anything without super star QBs.


We're just trying to win a couple of games here.


The guys in that locker room are capable of winning a game without Romo.


They have been hindered by this offensive coaching staff.



Do we need to be more innovative? Of course we do. But that has just been a small part of the problem.


We are completely predictable on offense with the plays we do have.

The coaching right now is bad.


Jerry himself said this team is built to withstand the loss of Romo for a period of time. Now we've gone 0-5 without him.
 

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Nobody would say that X.

For God's sake, first play after the pick run a play action pass for a TE down the seam and lets at least try to win the game....if the play isn't there check down to a running back. Is that too much to ask? Garrett is an imbecile.

The seam has Kam and Earl. Thats a dangerous throw for any QB.
 

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Garrett can't coach period.

I think I agree..

He wasn't successful as the OC..

the playcaller..

and now when he really could use some Jimmy Johnson in his coaching..

but what we re getting from Garrett is a bunch of hand clapping and sort of a girgling sound as we and the season drown.

I'm pretty disappointed for sure.

As a younger coach I sort of thought that some where along the way he would get fiery and show why the team should follow him.

But what I'm seeing is a coach with a long term deal who doesn't seem to be in any urgency to stop this.

Maybe he's being realistic about the situation and that's ehat we are seeing. Landry was also very non-plusse about things and did OK.

We'll see.
 

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This symptom epitomizes the fact that not one person on this board knows anything about this game. No matter how much all-22 they watch or buzz words they toss out about this game.

Or clever straw man signatures that belie the truth.


Oh please.

How many massive coaching screw ups do we have to see before people stop believing that these coaches are the all knowing and everyone else is just out of the loop.

Plenty of people understand football and the X's and O's behind it that don't coach in the NFL.

If you personally don't understand it then that's on you but you shouldn't use a blanket statement like that.
 

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Strurm nailed it!! It is really hard to see why anyone would argue that point. It does not make you less of a fan to admit the coaching is bad.

the coaching is bad on both sides of the ball. but I disagree with his assessment on this one. at that point of the game. it was a 10-9 game. a defensive battle. the defense had held their offense to 9 points. they had a total of 230 yards of offense. so why take a high risk with a struggling offense? you take the points. get the lead. and TRUST that your defense would make a crucial stop. that's just as gutsy and risky. the problem is the defense didn't.
 

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the coaching is bad on both sides of the ball. but I disagree with his assessment on this one. at that point of the game. it was a 10-9 game. a defensive battle. the defense had held their offense to 9 points. they had a total of 230 yards of offense. so why take a high risk with a struggling offense? you take the points. get the lead. and TRUST that your defense would make a crucial stop. that's just as gutsy and risky. the problem is the defense didn't.

Remind me again just how many times the defense has screwed the pooch in the final minutes of the last quarter (under Garrett). The defense...paper tiger that it is...has few skins on the wall at present, which is not to insinuate that that situation won't change going forward...but they are still finding their legs.

It is very rare that you are going to win a game with only 9 points of offense. Hardy was arguably the sole reason why they got to 12. What you absolutely don't do is hang the defense out to dry after they block a FG attempt. Three runs and a cloud of dust...then guess what defense? Back to the front...again. Fatigue induces mistakes, both mental and physical (coordination). By the fourth quarter, I would say that the potential for mistakes increases markedly...you saw that as the Cowboys repeatedly lost containment of Wilson on the final drive. Meanwhile, the Dallas offense contributed a net total of -1 yd (including the the sack and false start penalty on the final drive) for the entire 4th quarter. The entire fourth quarter production occurred via McFadden (3 yd reception and 7 yds on 3 carries).

The coaching of Garrett and Linehan hasn't been a parody for an extreme sense of urgency...something they should have developed the second Romo went down. One must wonder if they have indeed left no stone un-turned in Romo's absence, because at least on the surface, it appears an apocryphal conclusion.
 

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Remind me again just how many times the defense has screwed the pooch in the final minutes of the last quarter (under Garrett). The defense...paper tiger that it is...has few skins on the wall at present, which is not to insinuate that that situation won't change going forward...but they are still finding their legs.

It is very rare that you are going to win a game with only 9 points of offense. Hardy was arguably the sole reason why they got to 12. What you absolutely don't do is hang the defense out to dry after they block a FG attempt. Three runs and a cloud of dust...then guess what defense? Back to the front...again. Fatigue is the leading cause of mistakes, both mental and physical (coordination). By the fourth quarter, I would say that the potential for mistakes increases markedly...you saw that as the Cowboys repeatedly lost containment of Wilson on the final drive. Meanwhile, the Dallas offense contributed a net total of -1 yd (including the the sack and false start penalty on the final drive) for the entire 4th quarter. The entire fourth quarter production occurred via McFadden (3 yd reception and 7 yds on 3 carries).

The coaching of Garrett and Linehan hasn't been a parody for an extreme sense of urgency...something they should have developed the second Romo went down. One must wonder if they have indeed left no stone un-turned in Romo's absence, because at least on the surface, it appears an apocryphal conclusion.

why hang the defense to dry? how come teams like Denver can be dominating and holding Rodgers, a sure fire future HOF to 80 yards passing, win games by getting turnovers and scoring TDs, yet we are hanging out the defense to dry..

btw, I am sick and tired of this fatigue BS....the TOP in the game was 30.5 to 29.5 for the cowboys for the game. at that point in the game. the TOP was 29.5 minutes cowboys....24 minutes Seattle. so why would the defense be fatigued? despite everything we dominated the TOP!!!!! and may I ask *** is the defense tired? why aren't they in shape to play 30 minutes of football hard....freaking seattle did. why couldn't we!!!! lets stop making excuses for this defense. they are lions in the 1st half. lions in the first 3 quarters and sheep in the 4th. their performance all year long has been pretty bad in the 4th and it has nothing to do with TOP, because in all but one game we have had the better TOP!!!!


they lost containment of Wilson on that last drive....that's the whole freaking point. they had contained him prior to that, and in that last drive they allowed 7 first downs. the first 3 quarters. they had allowed only 12!!!! so in 3 1/2 quarters of play the defense had shown ability to make crucial stops. the offense had struggled. so at 6:45 left in the game. offense struggling. 4th and 3. one point game. you take the points. and TRUST your defense....challenge your defense, take a risk with your defense based on what you have seen all day...that they will make a stop.

the whole argument is Sturm's OPINION is we should have taken a risk on that last drive...my point is that not necessarily.

and I don't dismiss the coaches from this mess. I expressed my opinion in regards to Sturm's opinion. stupid is what stupid does and this team when Romo went down couldn't afford mistakes and yet they find ways to lose the games by making mental mistakes, etc. in All but one game we had a chance to win and for intent and purposes should have. either offense, defense, special teams or all of them have combined to screw the games.
 

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why hang the defense to dry? how come teams like Denver can be dominating and holding Rodgers, a sure fire future HOF to 80 yards passing, win games by getting turnovers and scoring TDs, yet we are hanging out the defense to dry..

btw, I am sick and tired of this fatigue BS....the TOP in the game was 30.5 to 29.5 for the cowboys for the game. at that point in the game. the TOP was 29.5 minutes cowboys....24 minutes Seattle. so why would the defense be fatigued? despite everything we dominated the TOP!!!!! and may I ask *** is the defense tired? why aren't they in shape to play 30 minutes of football hard....freaking seattle did. why couldn't we!!!! lets stop making excuses for this defense. they are lions in the 1st half. lions in the first 3 quarters and sheep in the 4th. their performance all year long has been pretty bad in the 4th and it has nothing to do with TOP, because in all but one game we have had the better TOP!!!!


they lost containment of Wilson on that last drive....that's the whole freaking point. they had contained him prior to that, and in that last drive they allowed 7 first downs. the first 3 quarters. they had allowed only 12!!!! so in 3 1/2 quarters of play the defense had shown ability to make crucial stops. the offense had struggled. so at 6:45 left in the game. offense struggling. 4th and 3. one point game. you take the points. and TRUST your defense....challenge your defense, take a risk with your defense based on what you have seen all day...that they will make a stop.

the whole argument is Sturm's OPINION is we should have taken a risk on that last drive...my point is that not necessarily.

and I don't dismiss the coaches from this mess. I expressed my opinion in regards to Sturm's opinion. stupid is what stupid does and this team when Romo went down couldn't afford mistakes and yet they find ways to lose the games by making mental mistakes, etc. in All but one game we had a chance to win and for intent and purposes should have. either offense, defense, special teams or all of them have combined to screw the games.

One...because Denver's defense is better than Seattle's right now. Two...the Dallas offense presented Seattle with little challenge, especially in the all-important fourth quarter. Three...the Dallas defense was on the field for 11 minutes of the fourth quarter (27 snaps). You could see they were gassed after the blocked FG. What I'm saying is they should have been more aggressive than simply going three runs and then out...putting those guys right back out there. The defense hands you a red-zone opportunity, a blocked FG and limits Seattle on third down conversions (until the last drive). Dallas needed Seattle's sense of urgency on offense in the fourth quarter, instead they had only Garrett's and Linehan's...in other words...how good does the defense need to be to mitigate the overt ineptitude of coaching as it pertains to the Cowboys?
 
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