Garrett vs. Lewis what's the difference?

[Dave_in-NC]

Murray would not have made one-iota of difference in the overall record.

He would have gained a few more yards, but he would have coughed the ball up a few more times too.

Murray was getting "used-up" the last 1/4 of last season. You could see it!

And I've watched enough of the Eagles this year to tell that he doesn't have the "fire in the belly" this season. Getting a $42 mil contract will do that combined with toting the ball as much as he did last season.

What eagle has fire in his belly? Chip? and that's about to get extinguished. I don't see many Cowboys with fire in their belly honestly.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

What eagle has fire in his belly? Chip? and that's about to get extinguished. I don't see many Cowboys with fire in their belly honestly.

Even the last 1/4 last season... Murray was spent.

He wouldn't have made any difference here this season.

 

[craig71]

Even the last 1/4 last season... Murray was spent.

He wouldn't have made any difference here this season.

If Murray was still here he would be another whipping boy and Jerry would be labeled a bigger idiot yet for resigning a back coming off a 400 carry year.

Craig

 

[khiladi]

Carson Palmer isn't a decent QB?

They were 11-5 and he was playing lights out when he got taken out. After that knee injury, he wasn't the same.. He was definitely decent in the beginning. He's back now to a degree..

 

[MichaelWinicki]

If Murray was still here he would be another whipping boy and Jerry would be labeled a bigger idiot yet for resigning a back coming off a 400 carry year.

Craig

No question!

Especially with what we've seen Murray do or not do in Philly.

 

[Hawkeye19]

If Murray was still here he would be another whipping boy and Jerry would be labeled a bigger idiot yet for resigning a back coming off a 400 carry year.

Craig

Well-- that's the reality for a real GM. Sometimes you don't know the outcome of a situation, but that's why you get paid big money to make big time decisions for your team-- and when you're wrong, you are held accountable. Unless of course, you're the GM in Dallas.

Can anyone honestly say that letting Murray walk, not drafting a RB, and counting on Randle was the right approach this offseason?

 

[Mountaineerfan]

Lewis gets fired this year if they don't make it to AFC championship game. The only reason they keep him in any other seniario is it's the Bengals and just ok is great for them.

 

[cowboys1981]

They were 11-5 and he was playing lights out when he got taken out. After that knee injury, he wasn't the same.. He was definitely decent in the beginning. He's back now to a degree..

I honestly think the Bengals win it all that year if it weren't for that cheap shot.

 

[khiladi]

I honestly think the Bengals win it all that year if it weren't for that cheap shot.

I barely remember them really hot going into the playoffs. Palmer threw 1 pass before he was 'injured' and it was 66 yards..

 

[cowboys1981]

I barely remember them really hot going into the playoffs. Palmer threw 1 pass before he was 'injured' and it was 66 yards..

Yup, to Henry. May he rest in peace.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

One guy is able to win games without their star quarterback while the other one can't.

One?

Jay Gruden has won some games with a backup QB this year. Thats essentially what Kirk Cousins is.

And even the Chipster in Philthy has a backup he traded for in Bradford.

Todd Bowles in NY has a backup

Even Rex in Buffalo

Indy has won with a backup old timer

A lot of backup level QB's have won games, except in Big D.

But Red's job is safe and secure because he's been dealt a bad hand that nobody else could win with . . . . . .

 

[craig71]

Well-- that's the reality for a real GM. Sometimes you don't know the outcome of a situation, but that's why you get paid big money to make big time decisions for your team-- and when you're wrong, you are held accountable. Unless of course, you're the GM in Dallas.

Can anyone honestly say that letting Murray walk, not drafting a RB, and counting on Randle was the right approach this offseason?

Letting Murray walk was the right decision. The histories of previous backs coming off of a year with 400 carries isn't all that great.

Drafting a RB just for the sake of drafting one is compounding an existing problem. You spend a complete year and enormous resources constructing a board only to jettison it when the draft comes isn't a recipe for success.

I don't know that going with Randle was the plan but that is how it played out. Sometimes you just have to play the hand that you are dealt and move on. On the bright side they jettisoned Randle and C. Michael when they decided they were not worth the hassle.


Craig

 

[MichaelWinicki]

One?

Jay Gruden has won some games with a backup QB this year. Thats essentially what Kirk Cousins is.

And even the Chipster in Philthy has a backup he traded for in Bradford.

Todd Bowles in NY has a backup

Even Rex in Buffalo

Indy has won with a backup old timer

A lot of backup level QB's have won games, except in Big D.

But Red's job is safe and secure because he's been dealt a bad hand that nobody else could win with . . . . . .

There are two differences between the Cowboys and all the teams you've mentioned...

The first being Garrett had to deal with using a back-up a lot more than any of those other coaches.

In addition here's the real key stat for this season:

Turnover +/-

Philly 0
NYJ +2
Buffalo +5
Indy -6

Dallas -12

And Indy survives because they have the best backup of all those teams listed.

 

[craig71]

One?

Jay Gruden has won some games with a backup QB this year. Thats essentially what Kirk Cousins is.

And even the Chipster in Philthy has a backup he traded for in Bradford.

Todd Bowles in NY has a backup

Even Rex in Buffalo

Indy has won with a backup old timer

A lot of backup level QB's have won games, except in Big D.

But Red's job is safe and secure because he's been dealt a bad hand that nobody else could win with . . . . . .

I didn't realize that every loss this year could be placed solely on lackluster backup QB play.


Craig

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Funny thread. Jason Garrett wishes he could be Marvin Lewis and Marvin isn't nothing really as a head coach.

 

[windward]

I honestly think the Bengals win it all that year if it weren't for that cheap shot.

I hope they win it this year.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Letting Murray walk was the right decision. The histories of previous backs coming off of a year with 400 carries isn't all that great.

Drafting a RB just for the sake of drafting one is compounding an existing problem. You spend a complete year and enormous resources constructing a board only to jettison it when the draft comes isn't a recipe for success.

I don't know that going with Randle was the plan but that is how it played out. Sometimes you just have to play the hand that you are dealt and move on. On the bright side they jettisoned Randle and C. Michael when they decided they were not worth the hassle.


Craig

Romo, Dez, and Murray were the three biggest reasons our offense succeeded last year. The front office gambled that the OL was good enough for any RB to run behind-- it isn't. They gambled that they didn't need any more depth behind Dez. They were wrong on that count as well.

And finally-- they thought Weeden was a competent backup QB. At what point do you start holding the front office accountable for making bad decisions?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Romo, Dez, and Murray were the three biggest reasons our offense succeeded last year. The front office gambled that the OL was good enough for any RB to run behind-- it isn't. They gambled that they didn't need any more depth behind Dez. They were wrong on that count as well.

And finally-- they thought Weeden was a competent backup QB. At what point do you start holding the front office accountable for making bad decisions?

No question the Weeden thing was mishandled... Jerry admitted as much.

Resigning Murray wasn't a good option.

And as far as Dez goes... You've got 7 draft picks and a defense that was near an all-time low in the number of sacks created and one year away from setting historical levels for awfulness.

It's impossible to have good depth throughout an entire NFL team. There aren't enough draft picks. There isn't enough cap space.

 

[Garrettop]

Dallas may not set official NFL records for other things, but they should set records for fan expectations.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Garrett sucks lewis is decent