Cooley's opinion: RG3 is going to Dallas

MikeT22

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How? How does it increase or decrease anything?

All signing Griffin would do is act as an insurance policy in case a QB isn't available to us in the draft.

I guess everyone would rather us go into the offseason with no one but Romo. Then we HAVE to take a QB. That means we have to hope Wentz or Goff fall into our hands, or we overspend somewhere.

Griffin makes sense.

If they think Tony has 3-4 more years and think RGIII can fill in adequately if he goes down again, then there is a very good chance they also don't draft a QB in the first.

They are probably already on the fence about using a first on someone who would sit for at least a year. It'd be even more so if they think QB position is in good hands for a few years.

I'm sure it'll be interesting to revisit this in three months.
 

Alexander

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Fact of the matter is, all the QBs are reaches in this draft. The Cowboys shouldn't pick a qb in the first round simply because of some goofy coincidence.

And they will be reaches in next year's draft too.

There is never a good time to have to draft a QB high.

If you are waiting for a "good QB draft" by all means, hold your breath.

And don't be surprised if you expire before the next one.
 

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Again, its called playing the percentages..............what are the odds that Goff/Wentz/Lynch will be gone at pick 4?

Tennessee.........they have Marcus Marriotta, so highly unlikely they will draft a QB.

Cleveland.........they need a QB, so very high possibility they will draft one.

San Diego.........they just gave Rivers a new contract extension through 2019, highly unlikely they will draft his replacement.

What about a trade up? We know from past trades that the Skins had to give up a fortune to move up and take a QB and we also know that the Eagles offered 3 first round picks last season for Marriotta and the Titans gave Chippy the middle finger. So the odds of a team giving up multiple first round picks to move up and grab a QB is not very high, maybe one at the most and that is probably San Francisco at pick 7

So, based on the likelihood of a QB being taken, the percentages say at most 2 will be gone......one by Cleveland and the other possibly by trade with San Francisco. So it appears that at least one of the big 3 (Wentz, Goff, Lynch) will be available when we pick.

I'm not sure what the odds are of the top QBs being gone before pick four. But the odds are there. In that case, you have to cover yourself.

So, I ask this. Let's say that we "play the percentages" and simply wait until the draft having only Romo on our roster at QB. We fully expect Wentz, Goff, and Lynch to be there...or at least one of them...because, you know, percentages.

Then, let's say that amazingly our nightmare scenario occurs, and all are taken.

What then?

All we would have is Romo. Do we reach and take another QB at four? I know you might say, "take one later, or trade down". Now, we are basically forcing our hand. We have to take one. Which means we overpay or overdraft.

Again, no harm is done if we sign a FA QB. We cover our backside in case the impossible happens. You have to plan for this. You can kill yourself ,"playing percentages ". Griffin is no worse than any other backup option.
 

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My scary thought is if they believe Romo has at least three years (it is not a damn debate), what kind of contract would they offer Griffin?
 

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If they think Tony has 3-4 more years and think RGIII can fill in adequately if he goes down again, then there is a very good chance they also don't draft a QB in the first.

They are probably already on the fence about using a first on someone who would sit for at least a year. It'd be even more so if they think QB position is in good hands for a few years.

I'm sure it'll be interesting to revisit this in three months.

That is the difference between the Jerry Jones Cowboys and teams like the Packers....one plans to sell Jerseys, while the other one plans for the future...


The new Triplets Jerry Jason and RGme.......move over Romo it RGme time
 

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If they think Tony has 3-4 more years and think RGIII can fill in adequately if he goes down again, then there is a very good chance they also don't draft a QB in the first.

They are probably already on the fence about using a first on someone who would sit for at least a year. It'd be even more so if they think QB position is in good hands for a few years.

I'm sure it'll be interesting to revisit this in three months.

The overkill in salary cap drain, with both Griffin and a #4 pick would put future contracts with all the current offensive line in jeopardy in the near future.
 

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I'm with you on Wentz
Even if they sign a vet if he is there I take him. If he is drafted by a team that brings him along slowly he could be a very good one

If they draft Wentz, teams in 2036 will be competing for the Garrett Trophy.
 

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That is the difference between the Jerry Jones Cowboys and teams like the Packers....one plans to sell Jerseys, while the other one plans for the future...


The new Triplets Jerry Jason and RGme.......move over Romo it RGme time

No, that isn't the obvious conclusion.
 

BAT

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They goofed up with their coaching hire.


RG3 needed someone like Gary Kubiak to coach him.

Snyder wanted Gruden and he lost RG3 because of that. He can't dink and dunk. He's not a west coast Rich Gannon type of QB.

He's a downfield thrower.

RG3 is all about the big play and if Romo is out I think a QB like him would be perfect to try and run the ball with and establish a deep pass play action game.

With our OL and the right playcalls I think he would be fantastic here strictly as a backup.

Make him a specialist first. Goal line and 2 point packages.
 

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And they will be reaches in next year's draft too.

There is never a good time to have to draft a QB high.

If you are waiting for a "good QB draft" by all means, hold your breath.

And don't be surprised if you expire before the next one.

If no teams are interested then 3 years, slightly over vet min, with big incentives. Low risk signing.
 

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Hey, if I did not do it, Jerry Jones would do it for you. Just saving you some time.

good point.

though i'm really looking forward to Jerry's unique view or take on the successful integration of a spread offense QB (with a lack of ability in running, throwing and reading defenses) in a Turner's Air Coryell offense (with Ernhardt Perkins elements to it).

Those insights from Jerry are golden.
 

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Him or Manziel are practically a given. At least I don't need to worry about RG3 leading police on a three-county high speed chase.

Drunk, of course.

perhaps not but you need to worry about his stick snapping in two the first time he is hit
 

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not sure if I would be ok with RG3 more because I don't mind him as a back up or that it would certainly keep that punk Manziel away from dallas
 

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I don't know why people over think it. It's real clear to me. We need a QB to replace Romo in 1, 2, 3 or 4 years. Anytime you need a franchise QB it trumps any and all other needs on the roster. By a lot. We have the 4th pick in the draft in a year where 3 QBs could be projected in the top half of the 1st round. Unless the scouting department decides all three of these QBs are frauds, which isn't very likely, then they must do whatever they have to do to get their franchise QB this year. If one is there, get him. Don't let the Cleveland Browns, for crying out loud, stop you.

I don't want to hear about DEs, DTs, WRs, CBs. They're all run of the mill. They can be had any year. This is about maximizing that draft pick by avoiding have not years between Romo and the next QB. That should be the entire focus of this offseason. Priority numero friggin uno.

How a complete bum like Griffin would factor into that is beyond me.
 

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not sure if I would be ok with RG3 more because I don't mind him as a back up or that it would certainly keep that punk Manziel away from dallas

I think everyone can quit worrying about him coming here. He might have trouble getting signed anywhere, he's a ticking time bomb right now, and, he's not very good.
 
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