Bryan Broaddus on fourth pick

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If this is the case, then I don't expect a team in the first round to use a pick on a running back. If one does, that will mean that they believe that running back can provide them with something backs in later rounds can't.

Personally I wouldn't use a first rounder unless Bo Jackson and Hershall Walker were coming out.. Let's face it the rook is going to share the load with DMac.. So 750-750 yard split would be ideal..
 

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How can I ignore a quote I haven't seen?
This isn't an "I'm right, you're wrong" with me. If you show me where Jones said this, I'll say I was wrong and thank you for providing information that makes me reconsider my earlier statement.

It's in this thread.
 

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I never claimed to be offended. We are speaking in front of an audience and this forum is what it is. You just seem mad when you do that.

Spam is like your posts 60-65 in this thread where you try to call me out for 6 straight posts.

Did you learn through the "spam" messages that your approach towards opposing opinions needs to be changed a bit?
 

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Personally I wouldn't use a first rounder unless Bo Jackson and Hershall Walker were coming out.. Let's face it the rook is going to share the load with DMac.. So 750-750 yard split would be ideal..

I put him about where injured Gurley and healthy Gordon were last year.
 

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Oh no question, they aren't going to say they're going to take a QB. They're far better off saying they won't.

But I think the odds are still less than 50/50 that they do.

it's silly to say that you are or are not going to do something, as everyone will assume you're not being honest about it.

best to just say, "there are a bunch of really good players who are likely to be available for us at our spot. we've got our work cut out for us in trying to figure who we think will fit us best. and, of course, we'll have to see how the picks before ours play out. so, we're just as interested as you all are to see what happens."
 

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But the idea behind the rookie cost controls is to pay a cut rate and not the top rate. The 5th year option is cheaper than the franchise tag. I know you've listened to Stephen and Jerry talk about this.

In the NFL, where teams spend or don't spend the money is key to their decisionmaking. Drafting a RB that high is no discount at all really.

Who knows maybe they buck their recent trend and really will go for a RB but that just seems to ignore the Cowboys recent history in both action and words.

honestly Fuzzy I'm building a case for Zeek not following their reasoning.
I dont get to listen to FO talk on radio or TV
 

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I think you can get comparable results from a RB picked round 3-5..Jerry got cute last year and missed out. Romo is going to get hit no matter what. It's what QB's do. Romo didn't take a beating last year. Just broke down.

I know QB's get hit and thats the problem
you limit those hits ,QB is your most valuable asset
 

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I am pretty sure Elliott isn't the only TB on the planet that can prevent Romo from taking a beating.

The Zeek example I used because the evaluators make that assessment
you dont have to bring Zeek out his a three down back
I'd also like Henry
 

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Personally I wouldn't use a first rounder unless Bo Jackson and Hershall Walker were coming out.. Let's face it the rook is going to share the load with DMac.. So 750-750 yard split would be ideal..

I don't think that will be the spit. More like 70 percent EE, 30 percent DMac.
 

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Here is what I think if we don't go QB at 4 we gotta go with Zeke and the reason is simple, forget money when we let Murray go this team lost its identity. This team needs a tough bellcow back that can get decent yards and the tougher 1 yard runs too, our identity with Murray was run the ball down your throat and then carve you up in the passing game. McFadden did OK last year but our "tough" yardage just wasn't there. Zeke can give this team back their identity and he can do what McFadden DIDNT do last year...close the game out in the 4th.
 

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Here is what I think if we don't go QB at 4 we gotta go with Zeke and the reason is simple, forget money when we let Murray go this team lost its identity. This team needs a tough bellcow back that can get decent yards and the tougher 1 yard runs too, our identity with Murray was run the ball down your throat and then carve you up in the passing game. McFadden did OK last year but our "tough" yardage just wasn't there. Zeke can give this team back their identity and he can do what McFadden DIDNT do last year...close the game out in the 4th.

The notion that McFadden wasn't good in short yardage and tough yardage situations compared to Murray has been proven to be not accurate. Someone on the FanZone did an analysis and basically McFadden and Murray were pretty close in those type of situations............... and note that Murray had the benefit of Romo and Bryant being healthy.

And it's easy to say forget money when you are a fan. But the front office is very aware of money, their cap, the values they put on positions given injury risk, etc.

And based on what they said last year when Murray wasn't signed and how they have approached free agency for RBs, they simply do not want to tie a lot of money up at TB.
 

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I missed it, and I don't feel like going through five pages. If you can give me the post number, I'll check it out. Thanks.

Here is an example of what Jones was saying last year about putting dollars into the running back position.

And so the position is one you have to take into consideration no matter what the skill level is, they take a lot of hits, lot of punishment, and you got a good chance to have an injury issue. And that’s why we couldn’t make that kind of commitment of dollars to that position.”

IMO, unless they trade back, they will look for RB in the mid rounds of this draft, like they tried to do last year.
 

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Here is what I think if we don't go QB at 4 we gotta go with Zeke and the reason is simple, forget money when we let Murray go this team lost its identity. This team needs a tough bellcow back that can get decent yards and the tougher 1 yard runs too, our identity with Murray was run the ball down your throat and then carve you up in the passing game. McFadden did OK last year but our "tough" yardage just wasn't there. Zeke can give this team back their identity and he can do what McFadden DIDNT do last year...close the game out in the 4th.

If they lost their identity they can call Lifelock.

They lost their two key offensive pieces last season, that's why they looked lost on offense last season.
 

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They had Dez and Romo is the first two games last year and if you think they looked like the cowboys of 2014 with Murray you are crazy. We would have lost the game to the Giants if not for a boneheaded play. I will say AGAIN yes the loss of Tony and Dez were critical but they still should have won more than 1 game without them. Carolina dominated us with Romo for awhile and with Murray we went into Seattle and Dominated a better Seattle Defense. The key is now and always has been our running game.
If they lost their identity they can call Lifelock.

They lost their two key offensive pieces last season, that's why they looked lost on offense last season.
 

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They had Dez and Romo is the first two games last year and if you think they looked like the cowboys of 2014 with Murray you are crazy. We would have lost the game to the Giants if not for a boneheaded play. I will say AGAIN yes the loss of Tony and Dez were critical but they still should have won more than 1 game without them. Carolina dominated us with Romo for awhile and with Murray we went into Seattle and Dominated a better Seattle Defense. The key is now and always has been our running game.

If you want a back to get the tough yards you grab the guy who's very much like DeMarco Murray and that's Alex Collins from Arkansas in the 3rd round.
 

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I wouldnt mind Collins, I just prefer Zeke I think he is a game changer for us and would make the biggest impact on this team..
 
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