Mass shooting in Orlando nightclub

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The game is early, but from news accounts this situation is less to do with religion and more to due with being intolerant of specific lifestyle choices.

Come on Mike. This is just a real silly comment. His beliefs were fueled and most certainly influenced by his religion. Other religions don't believe in that lifestyle either, but they don't go out and kill 50 innocent people.
 

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Come on Mike. This is just a real silly comment. His beliefs were fueled and most certainly influenced by his religion. Other religions don't believe in that lifestyle either, but they don't go out and kill 50 innocent people.

Oh except that time Jim Jones had a nice kool-aid gathering. .
 

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A "wall" will never, ever work.

Too impractical.

The "wall" isn't really meant for radical Muslims, more so for drugs and illegal aliens from Mexico. Vetting and other actions will have to fight the war on terrorism. I do agree that a wall will only be a speed bump though :(

However, it is a place to start. Something needs to be done soon.......
 

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Oh except that time Jim Jones had a nice kool-aid gathering. .

Jones was a nut job who killed his own congregation or convinced them to drink the kool aid and commit suicide. Completely different situation than this one.
 

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Come on Mike. This is just a real silly comment. His beliefs were fueled and most certainly influenced by his religion. Other religions don't believe in that lifestyle either, but they don't go out and kill 50 innocent people.

I was quoting a news service in my post.
 

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Oh except that time Jim Jones had a nice kool-aid gathering. .

There will always be the "yeah, except whens" for all corners of the world. No exception.

But the Jones example (which was what, about 35-40 years ago?) was not a good analogy
 
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There will always be the "yeah, except whens" for all corners of the world. No exception.

But the Jones example (which was what, about 30 years ago?) was not a good analogy

Agree and what is worse is that there are people sitting around waiting on a little info to see how to use this for their agendas.
 

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The "wall" isn't really meant for radical Muslims, more so for drugs and illegal aliens from Mexico. Vetting and other actions will have to fight the war on terrorism. I do agree that a wall will only be a speed bump though :(

However, it is a place to start. Something needs to be done soon.......

The challenge I have is "what" needs to be done...

What is the "what?"

-What's it going to cost?
-How easy/hard is it to implement?
-Who's going to govern it?
-How long is it going to take?
 

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The challenge I have is "what" needs to be done...

What is the "what?"

-What's it going to cost?
-How easy/hard is it to implement?
-Who's going to govern it?
-How long is it going to take?

I don't know, maybe......

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Time to stop dilly-dallying around and start exterminating!
 

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I don't know, maybe......

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Time to stop dilly-dallying around and start exterminating!

Dex I get that, I really do, but the older I get the more I realize how difficult it is to solve some of our most pressing problems.
 

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So just saw a video getting passed around on Twitter of a Mosque in Orlando inviting Sheikh Farrokh Sekaleshfar to speak...where he advocated for the death of gays.

Way to go Orlando.
 

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See what just happened in LA? Guy arrested heading to the gay pride parade heavily armed.
 

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Isis has brought their war to American soil. I fear these kind of attacks will become more frequent.
 

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The "wall" isn't really meant for radical Muslims, more so for drugs and illegal aliens from Mexico. Vetting and other actions will have to fight the war on terrorism. I do agree that a wall will only be a speed bump though :(

However, it is a place to start. Something needs to be done soon.......

Israel seems to like their wall and it is meant for radical Muslims. It doesn't stop them all but it helps a great deal. But you are right, other actions will have to be taken to counter the terrorists.
 

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Unless the wall goes deep underground too, it won't stop the people you really want out of the States.

It'll stop the poor immigrants from entering, but there's a lot of tunnels that lead to the US.

As for the topic, terrible news.

Sure, feel free to dislike certain groups. Stay ignorant. It's on a whole another level to want and carry out murdering innocent people, who have zero impact on your life.
 

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Sure, feel free to dislike certain groups. Stay ignorant. It's on a whole another level to want and carry out murdering innocent people, who have zero impact on your life.

Trying to figure out what you are trying to say here. Some of us are ignorant because we want radical Muslims dead? They can kill our innocent citizens but we can't kill some of theirs in the crossfire? Confused.......
 

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this is why everyone should carry....would work alot better than tryin to outlaw all guns....
 
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