RELEASED Lucky Whitehead Cut **merged**

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Who cares? Do they have to have another team figure it out for them before they themselves know what to do?

By that logic the Panthers needed to wait for all of Rae Carruth's appeals to end before they cut him.

Lucky Whitehead plays on a contract that says Dallas can cut him for any reason whatsoever, including a bad haircut. Dallas cut Corey White for dress code violations and he was part of the nickle defense. Lucky was somewhere between 8th and 10th on the WR depth chart with a snowball's chance of making the team.
 

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So that excuses botching it?

To me? In large part. Everyone will have to answer that for themselves though.

Put yourself in his wrongly accused position and the try to tell me that.

Oh, I did. That is the first thing I always do. I would have said to myself that if I hadn't had all of the other issues, they would have waited on this one. You know what my Father would have said if he's still around and it happened to me? He would have said, if you hadn't had all of those other problems, they wouldn't have immediately cut you.

Of course that is leaving out the performance part. I would have a hard time telling myself that I simply wasn't good enough.
 

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And I disagree. A guy who put himself in a precarious situation was pushed off the roster for something that looks not to have been his fault. Ok. That sucks for Lucky, but he's the one who put himself in a precarious position in the first place.

I don't know exactly what Lucky's backlog of indiscretions was. I know he had one. But it's enough for me if the team just didn't believe him and didn't want to deal with the drama and didn't want a guy on the team they didn't automatically believe. The roster spot didn't belong to him. It's the team's to give. If they don't want him on the roster, they can cut him and get another guy they're happier with for whatever reason they want using whatever process makes sense to them. As long as the team's more focussed today than it was yesterday, I'm ok with it. What I don't understand is why anybody wouldn't be.

Cut him under appropriate circumstances. Cutting him because the final straw was a crime he didn't commit, that looks bad for the Cowboys.

You might not think so, but you are programmed to pretty much excuse a lot of what the front office does.

Fact is, the Cowboys have gotten pretty much negative PR from this situation, which is the real point here. Not the fact that they cut a fringe player, which you keep saying, but deep down I know you realize is BS.
 

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By that logic the Panthers needed to wait for all of Rae Carruth's appeals to end before they cut him.

Lucky Whitehead plays on a contract that says Dallas can cut him for any reason whatsoever, including a bad haircut. Dallas cut Corey White for dress code violations and he was part of the nickle defense. Lucky was somewhere between 8th and 10th on the WR depth chart with a snowball's chance of making the team.

Actual dress code violations or false accusations? So we have the facts straight.
 

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That he wasn't good enough and that he had multiple issues are facts.

Not relevant to the fact that he was taken off the field and cut for something he didn't do. It doesn't excuse the fact that they botched it.

His last issues or quality of play or the likelihood he would have been released anyway don't change that fact one iota.
 

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By that logic the Panthers needed to wait for all of Rae Carruth's appeals to end before they cut him.

That's a pretty analogy.

The Panthers didn't immediately cut Carruth after he was accused of a crime. They actually put him on leave of absence without pay a day after police claimed he had played a vital role the urder and said that if exonherated he would get his back pay.

The Cowboys cut a player an hour or so after a shoplifting arrest warrant was out there and then a few hours later turned out they had the wrong guy.
 

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You guys do realize Lucky wasn't that good. If he was good, he would still be on the team.

I hate the offseason, and I do hate baseball. Just sayin, we are really bored right now.

Yeah people realize that. People also realize that he likely had already lost his roster spot to Switzer.

Doesn't change the fact they cut a guy largely because of a crime that the guy didn't commit and now the Cowboys are getting negative PR from the act. Further, they could have avoided the negative reaction if they had just been a bit more patient and not in a rush to send a message to the team given the litany of off the field issues this team has endured recently.
 

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Yeah people realize that. People also realize that he likely had already lost his roster spot to Switzer.

Doesn't change the fact they cut a guy largely because of a crime that the guy didn't commit and now the Cowboys are getting negative PR from the act. Further, they could have avoided the negative reaction if they had just been a bit more patient and not in a rush to send a message to the team given the litany of off the field issues this team has endured recently.

Gregory hasn't been cut yet.....cause he's actually good, not sending a message there.

They could've handled it better, true. Guess the rush was to make news, thats how we roll, we need attention. We are the Dallas Cowboys, gotta have that. That wasn't a message to the team, that was something to create drama.

We both know he probably won't be picked up.....for a while.
 

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It's quite hilarious that after all this time as a HC, Garrett still has a problem with his timing.
When to use timeouts, when not to use timeouts, icing your own kicker..........and now he can't even get the timing right about when to cut a player.

I find it ironic that JG cut Lucky for being a distraction to the team when cutting Lucky has actually been a bigger distraction.....:lmao2:
 

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It's quite hilarious that after all this time as a HC, Garrett still has a problem with his timing.
When to use timeouts, when not to use timeouts, icing your own kicker..........and now he can't even get the timing right about when to cut a player.

I find it ironic that JG cut Lucky for being a distraction to the team when cutting Lucky has actually been a bigger distraction.....:lmao2:
Everything the Cowboys do is a distraction. That's why they're America's team.
 

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Gregory hasn't been cut yet.....cause he's actually good, not sending a message there.

They could've handled it better, true. Guess the rush was to make news, thats how we roll, we need attention. We are the Dallas Cowboys, gotta have that. That wasn't a message to the team, that was something to create drama.

We both know he probably won't be picked up.....for a while.

That's the point most here are making. Few, if any, are trying to mount a defense for Lucky or for keeping Lucky.

He was expendable which is why the Cowboys were quick to cut him without thinking about any potential negative outcomes here.
 

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Lol, Florio. Somebody explain to that guy how to tell the difference between an apple and an orange.
It is not as different as you think.

Why exactly would you entrust someone you really don't find trust worthy or reliable with your social media accounts?

That just sounds irresponsible.
 

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Not relevant to the fact that he was taken off the field and cut for something he didn't do. It doesn't excuse the fact that they botched it.

His last issues or quality of play or the likelihood he would have been released anyway don't change that fact one iota.
He wasn't cut for just that. Geez. Are you telling me you think that if the shoplifting thing never happened that Lucky was going to be on the Cowboys 53 man roster this year?

If you don't think that, then his performance and previous issues come in to play on any release of Lucky, regardless of timing.
 

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Cut him under appropriate circumstances. Cutting him because the final straw was a crime he didn't commit, that looks bad for the Cowboys.

You might not think so, but you are programmed to pretty much excuse a lot of what the front office does.

Fact is, the Cowboys have gotten pretty much negative PR from this situation, which is the real point here. Not the fact that they cut a fringe player, which you keep saying, but deep down I know you realize is BS.

Let's agree to disagree.

I criticize the front office plenty, but never when I don't believe it's deserved. It's the resort of someone who doesn't have an answer to the actual argument to suggest a different motive. It'd be like me suggesting you're programmed to attack the team, which I don't believe is the case at all. We just disagree on this one.

And I never said the perception wasn't bad. I said it was the team's prerogative to relaase him for whatever reason they saw fit.

You're flat wrong if you really believe I feel anything deep down other than what I've said already. The team didn't or doesn't owe Lucky anything. And if he weren't a completely expendable player, he'd be on the roster.
 

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Gregory hasn't been cut yet.....cause he's actually good, not sending a message there.

Actually, we don't know if Gregory is any good because he hasn't been on the field long enough to find out. Gregory has "potential" and there's a big difference between potential and productive. There's plenty of ex-players that never fulfilled their potential for one reason or another and in Gregory's case, it's been largely self-inflicted.
 
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