TLH: Do the Dallas Cowboys miss Tony Romo?

THEHEREAFTER

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Team sport, now isn't it?

You think a healthy Romo wouldn't have played well last season? We had a similar offense in 2014. Romo at least won a playoff game.

It's time to get a grip. Dak has far too many problems, some that won't be fixed, to ever put this team on his shoulders. He's an Alex Smith, and it was laughable people said he's the "next Tom Brady"

How long did it take Romo to win a playoff game? You of all people man.... Lol... you don't even care about the team. Only Romo... Team sport for Dak as well now isn't it? Tony couldn't fathom this type of start to his career. I've seen Tony spray 4-5 int epic disaster games. You're still here trashing our young QB who's started his career 14-3, won offensive rookie of the year, made the pro bowl his first year and finished 3rd in QBR last year. In his FIRST YEAR.. plenty of those games last year could have been RUINED by an untimely turnover or two. No way Tony makes mistakes right? Get over it man... Dak has had a terrific start to his career. Stop jumping in a phone booth every time you see Tony's name mentioned on this site. It's disturbing. You might as well evaluate how he's doing in the booth in a suit. THE TONY ROMO ERA IS OVER... you sound silly.
 

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I honestly don't understand the potential Dak hate here. I just don't get it.

But then I never understood when people hated Romo for absolutely no valid reasons either. So I guess I should just be used to this kind of junk by now.
 

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I honestly don't understand the potential Dak hate here. I just don't get it.

But then I never understood when people hated Romo for absolutely no valid reasons either. So I guess I should just be used to this kind of junk by now.

I don't get it either. Hate against Tony or Dak. I don't think people remember the post Aikman-pre Romo years. We have a promising young QB who isn't perfect. All QB's .. even the upper tier ones struggle at time. It's a tough league and a tough position. Matt Stafford hasn't won a playoff game yet.
 

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I don't get it either. Hate against Tony or Dak. I don't think people remember the post Aikman-pre Romo years. We have a promising young QB who isn't perfect. All QB's .. even the upper tier ones struggle at time. It's a tough league and a tough position. Matt Stafford hasn't won a playoff game yet.

I wasn't on forums back when Aikman came into the league. Hell, to be honest, I am not even sure if they were even around yet. But I can just imagine how he would have been roasted and hated for the first couple of years of his career between the INTs, the injuries, etc.
 

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Where did Tony get us? That's what this all comes down to.

Unfortunately farther than we deserved most of the time. Instead of going 4-12 and getting in better draft position we wound up at 8-8 and picking in the middle of the pack.
 

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Nothing whatsoever is wrong with comparing player X to player Y. But as I've said a bunch of times now in this thread, I think there's a huge difference between comparing Dak's career to Tony's career and comparing current Dak to prime Tony.

People continue to assume that we'd be better off with Tony, thinking that we'd just plug prime Romo in and roll. That version was, has been, and will forever continue to be gone.

Let's compare Dak's year 2 progression to Tony's early career, let's compare their careers overall - all for it. But why act like we'd plug prime Romo into the 2017 Cowboys? Might as well do the same with prime Aikman and Staubach too.

I think it is a big assumption to believe without a doubt that Romo could not have given the team his best, or close to it last season and this season, at least. If things had gone according to plan Dak would never have seen the field last year. Or this year. That's why this discussion is a world apart from the same discussion involving Aikman or Staubach. As it was Dak came in with zero expectations and zero pressure. That was so last year though. He has the weight of the world on his shoulders this season. He got away with driving the bus behind the league's best rushing attack last season. Everything fell right for the team and they won many games that could have gone either way. He couldn't really take advantage of a horrible secondary in the GB playoff game though.

Dak showed great poise and great promise last season. I am a 100% on the Dak train.

I can also see that he has some things to prove which he has not done as of yet.

Things that Romo absolutely did prove.

It is a very reasonable argument to make that Romo could be more effective than young Dak at this point.

And it's just something to talk about. Nothing more nothing less. No reason to get all upset because it gets brought up.
 

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The usual mouth breathing crowd will say they don't miss Romo because he never won anything, then turn around in the same breath and blame the defense for holding Dak back. As if the same defense didn't hold Romo back? Lol its hilarious when their bias shines through.

Mouth breathing window lickers.
 

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I loved Romo too, but a healthy Romo would have thrown 3 picks and had 2 fumbles in that game. Probably would have scored more points. The older Romo would have been in the hospital.

If we had Romo vs. Denver, we'd have lost 51-48 and everyone would've blame him for the loss.
 

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I miss watching Romo play too - a lot. I guess what I'm getting at is that it's at least extremely likely that we would be missing watching prime Romo play even if 2017 Romo were our starting quarterback today. Romo's body was already finished whether he were still with us or not.

I fully expect and am on board with comparing Dak's progression/career to Romo's. I just don't think comparing 2017 Dak to 2007-2014 Romo is of any use. Due to age/injury, that Romo was never showing up again regardless.

No QB gets compared to the broken-down version of a great. When Romo was compared to Staubach and Aikman, it was the prime versions and not the ned-of-the-career versions. But I get what you are saying ... the OP was about the Romo of today vs. the Dak of today. Although I believe that Romo if he can stay healthy is a better QB than Dak is at the moment, that argument isn't really worth having because Romo is no longer a Cowboy.
 

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Hope that Dak has a big game against Arizona on MNF and by the end of the season have all of the people doubting him eat crow.
 

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How long did it take Romo to win a playoff game? You of all people man.... Lol... you don't even care about the team. Only Romo... Team sport for Dak as well now isn't it? Tony couldn't fathom this type of start to his career. I've seen Tony spray 4-5 int epic disaster games. You're still here trashing our young QB who's started his career 14-3, won offensive rookie of the year, made the pro bowl his first year and finished 3rd in QBR last year. In his FIRST YEAR.. plenty of those games last year could have been RUINED by an untimely turnover or two. No way Tony makes mistakes right? Get over it man... Dak has had a terrific start to his career. Stop jumping in a phone booth every time you see Tony's name mentioned on this site. It's disturbing. You might as well evaluate how he's doing in the booth in a suit. THE TONY ROMO ERA IS OVER... you sound silly.

Again, team sport. I evaluated Romo separately, just like I do Dak. I'm consistent. Thank you proving that.

I view it as a team, I evaluate players individually while not putting a record on them. I. Don't. Care. About. The. Raw. Stats.

And read my previous comment, I am not here WANTING ROMO BACK, I want Dak replaced with someone with better upside and not a one year wonder.
 

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Very fair. I would suggest, however, that when looking at his entire performance history (19 games, including a stellar playoff game), the argument cannot be made that he's not in a wonderful progression for a rookie + 2 games. If the basis for having found the right guy was Aaron Rodgers by the rookie year + 2, then every team in NFL history would be tossing aside their starter and drafting a new QB each year.

To not give a QB that has shown as many positive signs (and that's an understatement) as Dak has time to develop would be ludicrous.

I don't care that we took an L in week 2. I even gave him some leeway in week 1 with some overthrows, I thought he played decently in that game. However, in game 2, I'm still seeing bad footwork, weak throws that take too long to get to a WR, and terrible precision passing.

He needs to show he can beat up or play good against high ranked defenses. Normally, you will find these defenses in the playoffs.
 

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Hope that Dak has a big game against Arizona on MNF and by the end of the season have all of the people doubting him eat crow.

Dak having a good game against the Cards isn't going to take away 1 decent performance and a terrible performance weeks prior. He will need to show consistency.
 

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Again, team sport. I evaluated Romo separately, just like I do Dak. I'm consistent. Thank you proving that.

I view it as a team, I evaluate players individually while not putting a record on them. I. Don't. Care. About. The. Raw. Stats.

And read my previous comment, I am not here WANTING ROMO BACK, I want Dak replaced with someone with better upside and not a one year wonder.
You're consistant alright........ a little Dak controversy from one game and you're right back to polishing that Romo doll. First thing you've said that makes sense!
 

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I wasn't on forums back when Aikman came into the league. Hell, to be honest, I am not even sure if they were even around yet. But I can just imagine how he would have been roasted and hated for the first couple of years of his career between the INTs, the injuries, etc.

Yeah, I don't think they were. My first football talk with fans on internet, was in the late 90s, in a Yahoo chat room-sports.
 

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You're consistant alright........ a little Dak controversy from one game and you're right back to polishing that Romo doll. First thing you've said that makes sense!

The thread is about Dak and Romo. I haven't brought Romo up unless it's relevant to the thread.

Romo is retired. I'm not even looking to Romo, but the upcoming QB class. If there is any perfect season to find out if Dak has it or not, it's now. If he fails, we have some options to replace him.
 

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Great stat slim and it'll get overlooked by folks who don't understand what Romo was saddled with during his tenure here. He carried this team and it's coaching staff. We had a franchise QB that we just couldn't build around. And years later, we're still having problem with the D.

And it will be the same fans turning on Dak when he only has two playoff wins over his career because of the defense.
 
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