Jerry, you are dead to me and I protected you through the Landry debacle

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AbeBeta said:
Dude, there was a lot more to Castro than just the mass murder thing. Why do people just focus on the murdering?
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zrinkill said:
I have heard ****'s and White supremacist say the same crap about Hitler.
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It was clearly a joke. Still, its a freaking t-shirt.

But, seriously, if y'all are so high and mighty, you should probably go to your wallet and burn all the $20 bills you've got. I mean, if you really hate mass murderers and all.
 

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Romo_To_Dez said:
I'm pointing out that Nascar was praised for saying that they would fire anyone who didn't stand for the Anthem. Yet allows people with Confederate flags to attend their events. The some of the same people who say that not standing for the Anthem is disrespect. Wave Confederate flags and protest the removing of Confederate statues. Which represents a side that fought against the United States to hold up slavery.

So, anyone who is outraged about Kap and all of the other players who are knelling that claim it's disrespect to America and at the same time wear/wave Confederate flags are big hypocrites IMO. The same who would wave a Confederate flag over an American one.
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NASCAR didn't say they would fire anyone that didn't stand for the anthem.. the TEAM OWNERS did. There are no confederate flags in NASCAR in any respect other than if a fan flies one or wears a shirt with the flag depicted, but of course that's a person's 1st amendment right to fly a confederate flag.

The Confederate Flag issue is a separate nuanced debate. Anyone that flies a Confederate Flag alone or on equal to that of the US Flag is being equally disrespectful as the kneelers, IMO.
 
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AbeBeta said:
Dude, there was a lot more to Castro than just the mass murder thing. Why do people just focus on the murdering? I'm not a Castro fan but we are talking about a t-shirt. If you listen to interview with Kaep, you'll find a highly intelligent young man. You might disagree with his beliefs but calling him uneducated because he posses view that differ from yours is wrong.
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flosho said:
NASCAR didn't say they would fire anyone that didn't stand for the anthem.. the TEAM OWNERS did. There are no confederate flags in NASCAR in any respect other than if a fan flies one or wears a shirt with the flag depicted, but of course that's a person's 1st amendment right to fly a confederate flag.

The Confederate Flag issue is a separate nuanced debate. Anyone that flies a Confederate Flag alone or on equal to that of the US Flag is being equally disrespectful as the kneelers, IMO.
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It's your first amendment right to fly a confederate flag.

But kneeling for the anthem is off limits?
 
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AbeBeta said:
Dude, there was a lot more to Castro than just the mass murder thing. Why do people just focus on the murdering? I'm not a Castro fan but we are talking about a t-shirt. If you listen to interview with Kaep, you'll find a highly intelligent young man. You might disagree with his beliefs but calling him uneducated because he posses view that differ from yours is wrong.
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Oh cool, I guess i can wear a shirt with Hitler on it...

I mean, he just executed 6 million people, banned homosexuality and porn. similar to Castro. But Hitler also pulled Germany out of an economic hole and turned it into one of the greatest empires in about 4-5 years. All the while he was an underdog in a new political party. Oh and he was aware of environmental/animal issues...

We just gotta ignore the genocide though.
 
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Jerry is now suggesting the team will do this every week moving forward.

I don't think that will go over well in the home stadium on Sunday.
 
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AbeBeta said:
Dude, there was a lot more to Castro than just the mass murder thing. Why do people just focus on the murdering? I'm not a Castro fan but we are talking about a t-shirt. If you listen to interview with Kaep, you'll find a highly intelligent young man. You might disagree with his beliefs but calling him uneducated because he posses view that differ from yours is wrong.
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Pablo Escobar built a lot of schools, too.

Charles Manson threw a helluva party.

What?
 
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People need to start understanding bad optics

You want to be a communist or national socialist? That's fine. But using a dictator who put gays into camps and using a **** flag as promotion for your ideals really isn't going to get people listening. It will create a divide...

I can say that there were things i agree with Hitler on, politically i think he was borderline genius with how he turned Germany around. As I mentioned, he was aware on environmental issues before most other leaders. However, I would never use him as a mascot for obvious reasons.

If you go on national TV wearing a Castro shirt and "Cops are pigs" socks, this isn't just protesting but instigation. Which is why I didn't buy into Kap's bullcrap, and the herd that follows him are just as politically blind as the opposing side.
 
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mattjames2010 said:
Oh cool, I guess i can wear a shirt with Hitler on it...

I mean, he just executed 6 million people, banned homosexuality and porn. similar to Castro. But Hitler also pulled Germany out of an economic hole and turned it into one of the greatest empires in about 4-5 years. All the while he was an underdog in a new political party. Oh and he was aware of environmental/animal issues...

We just gotta ignore the genocide though.
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Yeah - we never ignore genocide.

Oh wait, who is on the $20 bill?
 
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AbeBeta said:
Yeah - we never ignore genocide.

Oh wait, who is on the $20 bill?
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This isn't even addressing my point...

"Hey look, they did it!"

Not a good argument. It's bad optics to use a dictator that goes against the very ideals you are pushing to further your agenda.
 
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