News: WP: CBS fires VP for writing ‘Republican gun toters’ killed in Las Vegas don’t deserve sympathy

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JoeKing

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And if you want to take it as is, then the only arms you can have are single shot muskets because that was the words meant when written.
There's the ignorant dummy coming to the surface that I thought I was talking to. With that most ignorant comment, we are done. Thanks for sinking your own ship, dummy.
 

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There's the ignorant dummy coming to the surface that I thought I was talking to. With that most ignorant comment, we are done. Thanks for sinking your own ship, dummy.
Clearly you do not have the intellect to have an adult conversation. I never quoted the first amendment.

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

That was written by men who used muskets that intended for the people of individual states to form militias in a time of need. It is about raising an army to protect our states and nation, and in order for those militias to exist the people were allowed to have arms.

To read that as the literal right to own any type of firearm you want, without any regulation is the most ignorant thing ever.

Slavery was legal in their minds. Only white men could vote. There are many things that were written by our founding fathers that as times changed so did the constitution.
 

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Clearly you do not have the intellect to have an adult conversation. I never quoted the first amendment.

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

That was written by men who used muskets that intended for the people of individual states to form militias in a time of need. It is about raising an army to protect our states and nation, and in order for those militias to exist the people were allowed to have arms.

To read that as the literal right to own any type of firearm you want, without any regulation is the most ignorant thing ever.

Slavery was legal in their minds. Only white men could vote. There are many things that were written by our founding fathers that as times changed so did the constitution.
The debate is over.... the numbers are one-sided

In States that have open carry laws the violent crime rates go way down...... so do home invasions with people present..... burglars don't want to get shot

In States and Cities with strict gun control laws the murder rates continue to go up

There have been 12 Las Vegas shootings in Chicago this year according to the math and they have he strictest laws in the country....... 7-15 murders a weekend....... from the late night parrots ......crickets

The Left wants strict gun control but they want open borders.......... well then I guess they are just undocumented implements and not illegal guns...... drugs and people aren't the only things crossing the border
 

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The debate is over.... the numbers are one-sided

In States that have open carry laws the violent crime rates go way down...... so do home invasions with people present..... burglars don't want to get shot

In States and Cities with strict gun control laws the murder rates continue to go up

There have been 12 Las Vegas shootings in Chicago this year according to the math and they have he strictest laws in the country....... 7-15 murders a weekend....... from the late night parrots ......crickets

The Left wants strict gun control but they want open borders.......... well then I guess they are just undocumented implements and not illegal guns...... drugs and people aren't the only things crossing the border
True and you know we see eye to eye on this but to be fair.... those guns going across the border are by far in the majority going south.
 

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People on the Left aren't used to being PC...... they haven't been held responsible for their words til now

The Right has been practiced in checking our language for ages

The Left is just as hateful and intolerant as they always paint the far Right to be
Everybody is period. It doesn't even need to be some stupid division along any lines. People in general will say things about others that they themselves do but don't call out those that agree/are on their side. You see that in here, in regular threads, real life etc. That's just life.
 

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I am not a liberal elitist

I am a Republican from a Texas oil family that despises the white nationalist bull**** Trump has brought
Sure you are Hillary.................. 'methinks she doth protest too much'
 

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True and you know we see eye to eye on this but to be fair.... those guns going across the border are by far in the majority going south.
Maybe when Eric Holder was in charge of the Fast and the Furious program
 

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The debate is over.... the numbers are one-sided

In States that have open carry laws the violent crime rates go way down...... so do home invasions with people present..... burglars don't want to get shot

In States and Cities with strict gun control laws the murder rates continue to go up

There have been 12 Las Vegas shootings in Chicago this year according to the math and they have he strictest laws in the country....... 7-15 murders a weekend....... from the late night parrots ......crickets

The Left wants strict gun control but they want open borders.......... well then I guess they are just undocumented implements and not illegal guns...... drugs and people aren't the only things crossing the border

I have no problems with people defending their homes with guns from home invasions.

It's the access to assault rifles, which allow people to commit mass shootings that I have a problem with. Laws can be made where people are allowed to defend their homes, and reduce mass shootings and the death by guns in America.

People keep bringing up Chicago, when it is known that guns are brought in from states around Chicago with easier/more lax gun laws. Until overall stricter gun laws are past nationwide then this will be a problem. Chicago is not on an island, so it's not hard for people to drive to the next state if they want easier access to guns.

Open carry wouldn't have stopped who was shooting from 32 floors up in Las Vegas.
 

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Clearly you do not have the intellect to have an adult conversation. I never quoted the first amendment.

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

That was written by men who used muskets that intended for the people of individual states to form militias in a time of need. It is about raising an army to protect our states and nation, and in order for those militias to exist the people were allowed to have arms.

To read that as the literal right to own any type of firearm you want, without any regulation is the most ignorant thing ever.

Slavery was legal in their minds. Only white men could vote. There are many things that were written by our founding fathers that as times changed so did the constitution.


this post is typical of the ignorance of the left.

SO by your claim only muskets can be used since that was what was used then. By the Constitution as YOU interpret it.

THAT means that newspapers that print digitally are not protected by the First Amendment. They can be shut down anytime.

Any website no matter by who can be shut down since the Internet did not exist then; was not even a wild dream.

See how stupid that post is now?
 

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and just to twist the knife a little


At the time of the 2nd amendment was adopted the STANDARD MILITARY ARM was a smoothbore musket. Thus LOGICALLY that was what the Constitution meant.

SO in this day and age guess what?

The closest thing that the average Joe can get to match the STANDARD MILITARY ARM of today is.....



what you numbies call a ASSAULT RIFLE.

Semi automatic magazine fed (by the way the standard military magazines are usually 20 rounds)
 

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People on the Left aren't used to being PC...... they haven't been held responsible for their words til now

The Right has been practiced in checking our language for ages

The Left is just as hateful and intolerant as they always paint the far Right to be

lol.

There are ****heads on both sides and there are good people on both sides. Claiming the right (or the left for that matter) doesn't say asinine stuff is ridiculous.
 

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lol.

There are ****heads on both sides and there are good people on both sides. Claiming the right (or the left for that matter) doesn't say asinine stuff is ridiculous.
Bluntly speaking show me any Republican that has said as many stupid and hateful things as Maxine Waters. She pretty much retires the trophy.
Now as regards dumb things well-they are politicians. How smart can you be and be one of them?
 

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this post is typical of the ignorance of the left.

SO by your claim only muskets can be used since that was what was used then. By the Constitution as YOU interpret it.

THAT means that newspapers that print digitally are not protected by the First Amendment. They can be shut down anytime.

Any website no matter by who can be shut down since the Internet did not exist then; was not even a wild dream.

See how stupid that post is now?
You are calling me stupid? I made the exact point you made you moron. The right holds the right to bear arms as sacred, even though their take on it is wrong. It was never intended for recreational gun ownership, it was meant to allow for citizen armies in times of need. It is not a necessary right anymore...it is like slavery and only white men can vote...wait, that is probably a bad example since it is probably two things most of you deep down think should not have been amended from the consitution.
 

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Bluntly speaking show me any Republican that has said as many stupid and hateful things as Maxine Waters. She pretty much retires the trophy.
Now as regards dumb things well-they are politicians. How smart can you be and be one of them?

Donald Trump trumps all others. Ever single tweet he sends is moronic and hateful.
 

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this post is typical of the ignorance of the left.

SO by your claim only muskets can be used since that was what was used then. By the Constitution as YOU interpret it.

THAT means that newspapers that print digitally are not protected by the First Amendment. They can be shut down anytime.

Any website no matter by who can be shut down since the Internet did not exist then; was not even a wild dream.

See how stupid that post is now?
I love this angle when people talk about what was intended by the Founding Fathers and our rights...... no TV or radio Free Speech....... just printed bulletins and public speeches

The Left wants all these regulations on guns but none on abortion....... how about a 13 year old can go buy a gun without parental consent or waiting period and the government subsidizes it

It is a zero sum game.....once the door to regulation is open the other fears and rightly so that the gun grab will begin...... something as sensical as mental health background checks can be twisted to say anyone that ever saw a psychiatrist or took a anti-depressant could have their guns taken away..... that is why digitized medical records is so scary
 

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Bluntly speaking show me any Republican that has said as many stupid and hateful things as Maxine Waters. She pretty much retires the trophy.
Now as regards dumb things well-they are politicians. How smart can you be and be one of them?
Donald Trump.
 

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The debate is over.... the numbers are one-sided

In States that have open carry laws the violent crime rates go way down...... so do home invasions with people present..... burglars don't want to get shot

In States and Cities with strict gun control laws the murder rates continue to go up

There have been 12 Las Vegas shootings in Chicago this year according to the math and they have he strictest laws in the country....... 7-15 murders a weekend....... from the late night parrots ......crickets

The Left wants strict gun control but they want open borders.......... well then I guess they are just undocumented implements and not illegal guns...... drugs and people aren't the only things crossing the border
The data does back this up.
 

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I love this angle when people talk about what was intended by the Founding Fathers and our rights...... no TV or radio Free Speech....... just printed bulletins and public speeches

The Left wants all these regulations on guns but none on abortion....... how about a 13 year old can go buy a gun without parental consent or waiting period and the government subsidizes it

It is a zero sum game.....once the door to regulation is open the other fears and rightly so that the gun grab will begin...... something as sensical as mental health background checks can be twisted to say anyone that ever saw a psychiatrist or took a anti-depressant could have their guns taken away..... that is why digitized medical records is so scary
What state allows a 13 year old to be able to get an abortion without parental consent?
 

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It's the access to assault rifles, which allow people to commit mass shootings that I have a problem with. Laws can be made where people are allowed to defend their homes, and reduce mass shootings and the death by guns in America.

How do you propose we do this? What law can be passed that would prevent these types of animals, hell bent on destruction, from committing these atrocities? As I mentioned in an earlier post, how did strict gun laws in France prevent mass shootings? How did it prevent the Charlie Hebdo attack or the attack on the concert venue that killed 130 people. Or the Norway massacre that killed 77 kids at a summer camp? Or the Beslan School siege in Russia where almost 400 children were massacred? The Vienna and Rome airport attacks?

Folks act like there's some utopia in these countries but they've been dealing with these types of mass killings for decades. I'm not a gun enthusiast. I own a couple of handguns, some shotguns I used as a kid for hunting but no rifles. But because I don't own a rifle doesn't mean that someone else can't buy one if he or she chooses to do so.
 
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