Is Dak on Wentz level or bus driver?

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Threads like these also encourage Eagle trolls.

 

[EaglesFan1]

Again not in my eye test. 60.5% completion is not throwing the ball better.

Thats not what he means. When you take more shots down the field your percentage will be lower the nsomeone like ALex Smith who does short, quick passes. Hes talking about arm strength. Threading the ball on 20 yard outs. Hitting you receivers in stride on deep routes is what he is talking about. THats different then completion percentage.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Alex Smith was in the lead for MVP but not after losing 3 of his last 4. Wentz is in the lead for MVP. He has been absolutely phenomenal. He is even better on 3rd down and leads the NFL on third down conversion. Freaking guy is like 50% on 3rd and 10 or longer. 50 PERCENT. Now dont spin this into me not thinking Dak is a very good QB... but Wentz is playing like an MVP. 14 TD's in his last four games. He just dropped 51 points on the best D in the NFL.

Last time I checked, it was the Atlanta team that lost 3 of their last 4. It's a team game. Again, show me proof that Wentz is in the lead for MVP. Give me a link.

 

[EaglesFan1]

Threads like these also encourage Eagle trolls.

I never got that. I dont see anyone trolling. Would you rather it just be Cowboy fans talking. I'd assume that opposing view points are welcome. THats a heck of a lot better to me then 1000 Cowboy fans all in agreement about how great Dallas is.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Thats not what he means. When you take more shots down the field your percentage will be lower the nsomeone like ALex Smith who does short, quick passes. Hes talking about arm strength. Threading the ball on 20 yard outs. Hitting you receivers in stride on deep routes is what he is talking about. THats different then completion percentage.

Who cares about shots downfield, I am talking about overall completion %.

 

[EaglesFan1]

Last time I checked, it was the Atlanta team that lost 3 of their last 4. It's a team game. Again, show me proof that Wentz is in the lead for MVP. Give me a link.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/11/08/midseason-mvp-rookie-year-defensive-player-year-coach-year

Dak not even in the top 15

 

[EaglesFan1]

Who cares about shots downfield, I am talking about overall completion %.

Hes not though. He is saying Wentz is a better passer. A guy can have a great completion percentage if he does nothing but dump off passes. Wentz has a better arm and can thread the ball on intermediate and deep passes a lot better. Again, that doesnt mean Dak isnt fantastic.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

But dak is on a solid level

Dude has basically every record for a QB in the time span he's played. Think hat's a touch above solid.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/11/08/midseason-mvp-rookie-year-defensive-player-year-coach-year

Since when is an article by Peter King the end all for MVP over who makes that decision.

 

[EaglesFan1]

Since when is an article by Peter King the end all for MVP over who makes that decision.

It was a compilation of about 10 different NFL writers. It wasnt King alone.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Hes not though. He is saying Wentz is a better passer. A guy can have a great completion percentage if he does nothing but dump off passes. Wentz has a better arm and can thread the ball on intermediate and deep passes a lot better. Again, that doesnt mean Dak isnt fantastic.

Yada, yada, yada.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

It was a compilation of about 10 different NFL writers. It wasnt King alone.

Snooooore.

 

[Soth]

We find out over next 6 weeks. I know the loss of Zeke hurts but it allows Cowboys to truly know what they have at QB & even Rod Smith. It also puts some responsibility on WRs who I think have gone silent for long stretches. Alot of answers coming.

Dak a bus driver???? Come on

I stopped doubting Dak a long time ago. He has continued to silence critics every step of the way.

It's only preseason let's see him in a regular game
It is only one game, let's see him win a few more
He has not played anyone good, let's see him against a good defense
Let's see him do that without Dez
Let's see him play well in his second season...

If you are waiting for Dak to fail or just be average, it will never happen. His TD-INT ratio is record breaking. His QBR is top 5 in the league. He doesn't have a ton of yards BECAUSE WE HAVE ZEKE. He's not Aron Rodgers, but he is much more than a bus driver for sure, and he doesn't need another 6 games to prove it.

 

[EaglesFan1]

Since when is an article by Peter King the end all for MVP over who makes that decision.

It was the following who voted Wentz as the MVP. 18 different experts not one...

Ben Baskin, NFL Reporter
Andy Benoit, Analyst and Staff Writer
Greg Bishop, Senior Writer
Andrew Brandt, Business of Football Columnist
Albert Breer, Senior Reporter
John DePetro, NFL Video Producer
Adam Duerson, Assistant Managing Editor
Jacob Feldman, NFL Reporter
Gary Gramling, Senior Editor
Jonathan Jones, Staff Writer
Kalyn Kahler, Editorial Assistant
Peter King, Editor-In-Chief
Robert Klemko, NFL Writer
Bette Marston, Senior Producer
Mark Mravic, Executive Editor
Conor Orr, Staff Writer
Tim Rohan, NFL Writer
Jenny Vrentas, Senior Writer

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

If I'm getting this sort of reply on a Cowboys forum, maybe I should head over to the Eagles' forum and be a "Risen Star" poster over there. Shouldn't be too hard.

Just bang your head into a wall a few hundred times and you'll be right on track.

 

[EaglesFan1]

Snooooore.

So I say he is playing at an MVP level.
You say "Prove It"
I do with a link
YOu say, "Who the hell is Peter King"
I say it wasnt him. It was 18 different football expert
You say, "Snoooore"

Nice argument brother.

 

[Soth]

By the way, Wentz is the one with something to prove not Dak. His first season was good but not great. Now he has been playing great for 8 games, but Dak has been doing it for 20+ games (including one playoff game).

 

[EaglesFan1]

By the way, Wentz is the one with something to prove not Dak. His first season was good but not great. Now he has been playing great for 8 games, but Dak has been doing it for 20+ games (including one playoff game).

Yeah Dak was better last year. But Wentz is playing at an MVP level this year, Dak hasnt.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

So I say he is playing at an MVP level.
You say "Prove It"
I do with a link
YOu say, "Who the hell is Peter King"
I say it wasnt him. It was 18 different football expert
You say, "Snoooore"

Nice argument brother.

SNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNooooooooooooooooooore.

 

[Idgit]

Huhh? Have you seen the stats this year. Wentz has a lot better numbers. I think youre looking at 2016.

The reason you think that is because you've seen Wentz' monumental improvement since last season. The reason we're not impressed is because that's how much better he needed to get to match Dak's level of play. Which is what he's done now.

Welcome to the discussion.